You skipped the part where Muslims and Christian unite when Jesus returns to save the Jews from certain peril. That is if they accept Him.
Islam and Judaism have a Christian ending and that is clear as a bell in the Quran and Bible.
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Islam and Judaism have a Christian ending and that is clear as a bell in the Quran and Bible.
Jesus Christ escaped from being crucified. Then after a period of time, he died, then his body was buried on a hill near
Damascus, while his soul ascended to heaven in the neighborhood of his Lord.
So he became a soul, and his second return is described to be like the lightning.
So his return may be with his soul or spirit not with his material body.
His second return in fact may have been fulfilled when he revealed the interpretation of the Quran to the late interpreter Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.
"It is mentioned in the Holy Gospel according to St. John, chapter 14: 15-19
“15-If you love me, keep my commandments.
16-And I will ask the Lord, and he shall give you another “paraclete”, that he may abide with you for ever;
17-The spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive because it sees him not, nor knows him. But you shall know him; because he shall abide with you and shall be in you.
18-I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.
19-Yet a little while, and the world sees me no more … etc.”
Therefore, the saying of the Christ: “and the world sees me no more” means: he will come with his spirit not with his body; and for this reason people cannot see him.
Truly, he came [to me: I am Mohammed-Ali Hassan] with his spirit, and made me understand many things."
Prophet Ahmed as Mentioned in the Gospel
Damascus, while his soul ascended to heaven in the neighborhood of his Lord.
So he became a soul, and his second return is described to be like the lightning.
So his return may be with his soul or spirit not with his material body.
His second return in fact may have been fulfilled when he revealed the interpretation of the Quran to the late interpreter Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.
"It is mentioned in the Holy Gospel according to St. John, chapter 14: 15-19
“15-If you love me, keep my commandments.
16-And I will ask the Lord, and he shall give you another “paraclete”, that he may abide with you for ever;
17-The spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive because it sees him not, nor knows him. But you shall know him; because he shall abide with you and shall be in you.
18-I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.
19-Yet a little while, and the world sees me no more … etc.”
Therefore, the saying of the Christ: “and the world sees me no more” means: he will come with his spirit not with his body; and for this reason people cannot see him.
Truly, he came [to me: I am Mohammed-Ali Hassan] with his spirit, and made me understand many things."
Prophet Ahmed as Mentioned in the Gospel
Oh ye of little faith...oy vey.
Count me in as one of those who have mocked and belittled in the past. I apologize for that. I sometimes go off half cocked without thinking of the consequences. It makes more sense to find common ground between the two sides.
There is a big scale of knowing some persons --- to the mere friendship and --- the intimate friendship.
We know a large number of people: some of them relatives and kindred, neighbors, people working with us in our companies ...etc.
But the true friendship is through God's religion of the exclusive devotion to God alone and believing in all the apostles and prophets including Mohammed, and believing in all the revealed books from God including the original Law of Moses, the original Gospel of Jesus and the Quran revealed to Prophet Mohammed.
A tradition narrated from Prophet Mohammed - salam be to him - said: "The faith of anyone of you is not complete unless he loves for God and hates for God, and that God and His apostle be the most beloved by him more than all others."
Moreover, why should I be an enemy of anyone who does not show enmity to God's religion, and who does not fight me or who does not force me out of my homeland? This will be the extreme foolishness.
As God - be glorified - said in the Quran 60: 8-9
لَا يَنْهَاكُمُ اللَّهُ عَنِ الَّذِينَ لَمْ يُقَاتِلُوكُمْ فِي الدِّينِ وَلَمْ يُخْرِجُوكُم مِّن دِيَارِكُمْ أَن تَبَرُّوهُمْ وَتُقْسِطُوا إِلَيْهِمْ إِنَّ اللَّهَ يُحِبُّ الْمُقْسِطِينَ ...إلخ
The explanation:
(God forbids you not, as regards those who have not fought you in religion's cause, nor expelled you from your habitations [at Mecca], that you should kindly entertain them, and judge between them with justice; surely God loves the just.
God only forbids you to make friends of those who have fought against you in the matter of religion, and expelled you from your homes [at Mecca], or have aided in your expulsion; and whoever makes friends of them; they are the wrong-doers.)
quran-ayat.co
See, this is where your prophet mohammed, in my opinion, screws up big time. Christs message was all about love and tolerance. There was no hate involved. Hate shouldn't even be in our vocabulary. So, either mohammed got it wrong, or the scribblers wrote it down wrong. Which do you think is the more likely answer?
The likeness of Jesus Christ and Prophet Mohammed
Jesus and Mohammed were like two drivers of a train moving on a railway.
When the first driver accomplished his duty, it was the turn for the other to carry out his duty of moving the train along the straight railway.
There had been other drivers of the same train on the same straight railway: like Noah, Abraham, Moses and the rest of God's prophets and apostles.
Therefore, Jesus invited to the love, and Mohammed did not invite people to love?
The circumstances of Jesus was not like those of Mohammed: In fact Jesus acted as Mohammed acted later on at Mecca before his migration to Medina.
In other words: Jesus did not rule; he had not the opportunity to be their king, in spite of being anointed.
While Mohammed captured the soveriegnty and became the chief and the ruler.
And Jesus was not fought, while the enemy of Mohammed brought their army against him and his followers.
In spite of all this, Jesus Christ was jealous for the house of God at Jerusalem, and he was violent against those who used the house of God as a market place.
Moreover, it is foolishness to treat all people alike so that you love them all; and in fact Jesus called his enemy and the enemy of God as "sons of vipers" and "malicious generation", in addition to say his famous "woe's" to pharisees and scribes and to Jerusalem and other cities. And he did not say to the non-believers: bravo and welcome.
So to forgive your personal enemy is good, but to forgive the enemy of God is not any good.
Yesterday, I saw a movie about a true story of two young man and woman; he told her that once he used to spray water for the garden of their house and through the water spray layer he saw his grandmother (who was dead) and she was there for a considerable time then when he dropped the water tube, she disappeared. Then when he went to his parents, they said it is only imagination and no one can see the dead; but he said to his girl, that he was certain and will not disbelieve what he saw with his own eyes.
This is similar to what I saw (together with my son) of my father's soul many years ago, which I told you about.
This is similar to what I saw (together with my son) of my father's soul many years ago, which I told you about.
What is the objection of the woman in the video? What is it that she objects to?
Try simply relying on God and forgetting the pills. Prove to yourself, God hears prayers and loves His creations..
And she had to pick a ten month old post to resurect two of her pet peeves..... religion and.....?.;-)
Why??
If I can help my children when they ask for my help, I do. If I can't, or such help, I feel will be detrimental, I explain the reason. Of course, most humans explain their reasons, considering this simple courtesy. Obviously,this just isn't seen as a suitable trait for God, or He simply doesn't think enough of us, to offer explanations.
Of course, God is God and has the right to show favour to whomever He chooses. The problem with this, is by not explaining His reasons, we are left to form our own conclusions.
Like perhaps He has another bet on with the Angel Lucifer, the light giver or bearer. ( better known Satan or the Devil these days) You know, like He did with Job. Or,..... maybe, He want proof of absolute love, nah, He can't possibly be that needy. Maybe, He truly doesn't give a shyte or simply doesn't exist in the form assigned to Him.
Before "believers" start in with the atheist crap, because, I cannot accept a God imbued with human faults, & cruelty does not mean I do not accept the existence a Universal Spirit.
Not about to leave off the pills I guess....... and yes, I do enjoy discussing beliefs. They are an innate part of a person. It forms how they treat those they meet, no matter the venu. The gentler, kinder ones are often influenced by gentler, kinder beliefs. They tend to get what they wish to say over without ridicule, put-downs or insults
Unfortunately in most of the threads here, the chances of a civil discussion are exceeding remote. Too many with set in cement ideas. Too bad, because the more moderate are quickly beaten to a pulp, or simply sit on the side-lines using the thumbs up or down buttons, or in severe cases the ignore one.
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any religious posts put here are fair game for debate or comment, just as political posts, etc.
religion is not in any special catagorie at all, as other topics are not either.
if one doesn't want feed back, whatever it might be re: religion, then only post your religious
topics in a closed religious forum.
if there was some 'rule' that we can not post opinions, or debate on a religious topic, then this
forum would over run with religious posts, sermons, etc., and we would not be able to reply.
give me a break .
religion is not in any special catagorie at all, as other topics are not either.
if one doesn't want feed back, whatever it might be re: religion, then only post your religious
topics in a closed religious forum.
if there was some 'rule' that we can not post opinions, or debate on a religious topic, then this
forum would over run with religious posts, sermons, etc., and we would not be able to reply.
give me a break .
Well said!!
Feed back and opinions are great. Can just do without the topic morphing into personal attacks. There are many ways of expressing one's opinions without giving offense.
