Soldier is hacked to death by Muslim men just yards from barracks in London

[Blackleaf]

Apparently, the killers of Drummer Lee Rigby could, by law, face the death penalty.

A law passed in 1848 defines the separate offence of treason felony as proceeding ‘to levy war against the sovereign in order by force or constraint to compel her to change her measures or counsels, or in order to put any force or constraint upon or in order to intimidate or overawe both houses or either House of Parliament’.

With this definition in mind, consider the words spoken by one of Drummer Lee Rigby’s assassins in Woolwich: ‘You people will never be safe. Remove your governments, they don’t care about you . . . get rid of them. Tell them to bring our troops back so all can live in peace. So leave our lands and we can all live in peace.'

As they are Britons, Michael Adeboloja and Michael Adebowale could therefore face trial for treason for killing a British soldier. It was the murder of a man who was targeted precisely because he was a member of Her Majesty’s Armed Forces.

His killers, and those who support them, regard what they did as an act of holy war, or jihad.

This would mean that they are Britons waging war on other Britons, and on the British state.

Such people are the self-appointed, and self-declared, enemies of the sovereign. They are levying war against her, hoping to force her to change her measures and counsel.

Thus, in recognition of the enormity of their crime and in seeking to force the government of their own country to change its policies, they should be put on trial not just for murder, but for treason.

In terms of their sentence, this would make no difference. The death penalty for treason is in abeyance under the terms of the 1998 Human Rights Act, yet it can be reinstated ‘in time of war or of imminent threat of war’.


Read more: Why Drummer Rigby's killers should be charged with treason | Mail Online

 

[lone wolf]

Use an old rope. Allow lots of drop

 

[darkbeaver]

Stuffed animals, flowers, weeping estranged wives, an outpouring of something distinctly western in these arranged times.

 

[Blackleaf]

Use an old rope. Allow lots of drop

They should be hanged like people used to be hanged in the days before the "more humane" quick drop method was introduced.

Tyburn, a site which is now occupied by Marble Arch in London, was where felons were hanged between 1196 and 1783. In 1571 the Tyburn Tree was introduced, which comprised a horizontal wooden triangle supported by three legs which could hang several felons at once, such as on 23rd June 1649 when 24 prisoners – 23 men and one woman – were hanged simultaneously, having been conveyed there in eight carts.

Felons were taken to Tyburn from Newgate Gaol on the back of carts, with their coffins next to them. Upon reaching the gallows they would be made to stand on the back of the carts with nooses placed around their necks. The carts were then pulled away leaving the felons dangling, and it would often take several minutes for them to die. As they were slowly being throttled to death the felons often kicked their feet in their death throes, and this became known as "dancing the Tyburn jig". All this would be watched by hundreds of members of the public, who saw it as a great form of entertainment. Many of them would sit in the specially-constructed sports-stadium-like grandstands to watch the hangings.

If sentenced to be hanged, Adeboloja and Adebowale should be made to dance the Tyburn jig rather than given instant death by being dropped through a trapdoor.

Adeboloja and Adebowale should be made to dance the Tyburn jig.

 

[darkbeaver]

From the Stockholmers at the guardian:

Leave it to the Guardian, anything to smear the EDL and anyone else who questions Muslim immigration.


"In fact, while far right groups were pointing to the murder as evidence that Islam poses a fundamental threat to modern Britain, the percentage of respondents who view Muslims as compatible actually jumped by almost ten points, to 33%.

What the Guardian hopes you won't notice about the survey quoted is that 67% of Brits don't think Islam compatible at all with British Society

http://www.blazingcatfur.blogspot.ca/2013/05/talk-about-burying-lead.html

That's so fracking hilarious, most of the civilized world don't think the ruined pinheads comprising "British hahahaha Society" are compatible with normal humanity. That's been the case for two maybe three hundred years. Thieves and murderers, wars of conquest unnumbered, rape pillage and burn.

 

[gore0bsessed]

Thousands of Muslims gather in London to condemn murder of soldier Lee Rigby - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

 

[Blackleaf]

Apparently, Adebolajo came to the attention of MI5 after he appeared in court in Kenya on suspicion of planning to fight for a terrorist group.

The Mail on Sunday has learned he was arrested with five others in November 2010. All were said to have been heading for neighbouring Somalia, where they had been recruited by Al-Shabaab, the Islamist insurgent organisation.

Adebolajo, who was filmed after the Woolwich slaughter with blood on his hands, was deported without being charged.

Exclusive: Michael Adebolajo in a Kenyan court in 2010 with five other men after he attempted to cross the border


Read more: Michael Adebolajo: Woolwich suspect was held on terror charges in Kenya... and DEPORTED here | Mail Online

 

[darkbeaver]

It's standard procedure to become familiar with your employees. Was it blood on his hands? Where are the forensic reports? It looked like red stuff to me.

 

[EagleSmack]

Seriously, you getting your data from Mother Jones.. ROFLOL

Pull your head out of Obama's A$$

It's so far in at this point.

 

[petros]

Seriously, you getting your data from Mother Jones.. ROFLOL

Pull your head out of Obama's A$$

Is she related to the cat that is on fire?

 

[Cliffy]

Good answer... Really explains everything when it's put that way

Whether anybody recognized the taliban as the government or not is irrelevant. They were running the country. Who was the quasi government that invited the invasion?

 

[petros]

Whether anybody recognized the taliban as the government or not is irrelevant. They were running the country. Who was the quasi government that invited the invasion?

Or "Who was the Afghani govt taking money from the USA to fight the heroin growers"?

 

[Blackleaf]

I learned yesterday that the Langley estate in Middleton, in Rochdale near Manchester, where Drummer Rigby's family live, is the same estate where the ex-wife of my great uncle used to live.

 

[petros]

Hey blackleaf, why don't you Brits arm the Jihadists that killed this guy like the Jihadists that were armed in Libya and Syria by the UK?

 

[darkbeaver]

Hey blackleaf, why don't you Brits arm the Jihadists that killed this guy like the Jihadists that were armed in Libya and Syria by the UK?

What a horrible insinuation to make about the worlds foremost civilizing hahahahahaha power.

 

[JLM]

They should be hanged like people used to be hanged in the days before the "more humane" quick drop method was introduced.

Tyburn, a site which is now occupied by Marble Arch in London, was where felons were hanged between 1196 and 1783. In 1571 the Tyburn Tree was introduced, which comprised a horizontal wooden triangle supported by three legs which could hang several felons at once, such as on 23rd June 1649 when 24 prisoners – 23 men and one woman – were hanged simultaneously, having been conveyed there in eight carts.

Felons were taken to Tyburn from Newgate Gaol on the back of carts, with their coffins next to them. Upon reaching the gallows they would be made to stand on the back of the carts with nooses placed around their necks. The carts were then pulled away leaving the felons dangling, and it would often take several minutes for them to die. As they were slowly being throttled to death the felons often kicked their feet in their death throes, and this became known as "dancing the Tyburn jig". All this would be watched by hundreds of members of the public, who saw it as a great form of entertainment. Many of them would sit in the specially-constructed sports-stadium-like grandstands to watch the hangings.

If sentenced to be hanged, Adeboloja and Adebowale should be made to dance the Tyburn jig rather than given instant death by being dropped through a trapdoor.

Adeboloja and Adebowale should be made to dance the Tyburn jig.

There should be more of this sort of thing today.

 

[Dixie Cup]

In the early '80's my mom and my grandmother went to the Ukraine to see relatives that we had there. It was the first time back for my grandmother and she wanted to see her family before her time came to "meet the Maker." The country was still under communism at the time and they were severely restricted as to where they could go. The wanted to go to Kiev and Odessa (where my grandfather grew up). Whereever they went, they had a "tour guide" whose name, if I recall correctly, was Tatyana (??). Because they were there for about 3 weeks, they spent a lot of time "touring" visiting families and discussing different things with Tatyana. My mom is pretty straight forward and doesn't mince words. One of the things mom mentioned to me when they got back was the warning that Tatyana had said that we in the West need to be careful of - that was the immigrants coming into our country whose beliefs were vastly different from ours. Mom said that she felt that Tatyana was right and I scoffed at mom and said that's ridiculos - it's just garbage from someone who doesn't know what its like to be truly free and its likely Tatyana was brain-washed. Mom was adament that she believed that Tatyana was right and that we'll regret allowing some of the people into our country. I stated that Tatyana was spouting a racist ideology and my mom simply said ....we'll see.

In retrospect, I'm thinking - OMG - mom & Tatyana were right to some extent and I was being naive - there is something to be said about allowing people who refuse to participate in our communities, whose loyalties still lie in their homeland and who don't believe in the rule of law in the country that they've decided to settle in. We need to somehow be assured that they've come here for the right reasons and are willing swear loyalty to our government, Constitution and laws.

Now, I'm not putting everyone in that category - but a "few" can make it difficult for the many and that's my concern. We have to stop being "naive" and so Politically Correct start addressing issues now. We need to start calling a spade a spade without fear of reprecussions and we need to support those in the various communities (be it Muslim/Jewish/Christian/) who condem these murders for the butchers they are - unequivicably! I tend to agree that we need to take the religion out of it - its not relevant, despite what these monsters state. They're murders and butchers - not martyrs and solders of any god that I'm aware of.

JMHO

 

[Durry]

Who was the quasi government that invited the invasion?

It was the Karazi government !!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_war_in_Afghanistan

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. In December 2001, the U.N. Security Council established the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF), to oversee security in the country and train the Afghan National Army. At the Bonn Conference in December 2001, Hamid Karzai was selected to head the Afghan Interim Administration, which after a loya jirga in Kabul in June 2002, became the Afghan Transitional Administration. In the popular elections of 2004, Karzai was elected the president of the new permanent Afghan government, the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan.[18]
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[petros]

That is post 9-11 Droopy.

 

[Cliffy]

It was the Karazi government !!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_war_in_Afghanistan

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. In December 2001, the U.N. Security Council established the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF), to oversee security in the country and train the Afghan National Army. At the Bonn Conference in December 2001, Hamid Karzai was selected to head the Afghan Interim Administration, which after a loya jirga in Kabul in June 2002, became the Afghan Transitional Administration. In the popular elections of 2004, Karzai was elected the president of the new permanent Afghan government, the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan.[18]
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Like I said, quasi government with an appointed western puppet.