Sex selection abortions

[JLM]

You're the one whining about it.

That's true, just like to see a sane discussion, where all opinions are acceptable - like they are just opinions, Gerry, doesn't mean they are going to be enacted into law. Some people have different criteria depending on "whose ox they are trying to gore"

 

[gerryh]

That's true, just like to see a sane discussion, where all opinions are acceptable - like they are just opinions, Gerry, doesn't mean they are going to be enacted into law. Some people have different criteria depending on "whose ox they are trying to gore"

The murder of baby's is not just an opinion. It is something that is happening every day for no more reason than the pregnancy is inconvenient.

 

[petros]

Why isn't there an Abortion Annie comic strip? An orphan can be upbeat and funny, but an abortion...not so much.

 

[JLM]

It is something that is happening every day for no more reason than the pregnancy is inconvenient.

I agree and condemn it for the reason of convenience as vehemently as you do, but I attack the practice not the poster. (Some people play "devil's advocate")

Why isn't there an Abortion Annie comic strip? An orphan can be upbeat and funny, but an abortion...not so much.

I'm not sure that Gerry would approve!

 

[petros]

I'm not sure that Gerry would approve!

There is nothing funny about an abortion but an orphan can still crack a good joke.

 

[JLM]

There is nothing funny about an abortion but an orphan can still crack a good joke.

Which goes to show not having an abortion can still have a viable outcome.

 

[petros]

Which goes to show not having an abortion can still have a viable outcome.

Humans have only one purpose and that is to make more humans.

 

[JLM]

Humans have only one purpose and that is to make more humans.

Hmmmmmmmmmm, the population in many parts seems to be declining from natural propagation, might be second now to doing dope! -

 

[petros]

Hmmmmmmmmmm, the population in many parts seems to be declining from natural propagation, might be second now to doing dope! -

You've lost me on that one.

 

[JLM]

You've lost me on that one.

To maintain a population growth a couple has to have three children, the average is now I believe is less than 2.

 

[Kreskin]

Then why is DNA used to prove paternity by courts to make men pay for children women want if the man doesn't?

She wanted it, she can pay for it herself right?

Is she SOL?

Why the double standard?

Can the DNA of an aborted embryo be used to determine paternity?

What is the legal definition of a person?

What is the legal definition of a human?

P.S. my reasons against abortion have NOTHING to do with religion.

About 25% of all pregnancies result in a miscarriage. If they have full human rights, and are allowed the same protection under the law as the mother, why aren't those cases investigated by a coroner? Shouldn't a pregnant woman have to report to the RCMP to disclose a pregnancy loss? If they have that protection wouldn't it be criminal neglect to drink any alcohol after sex for about one month until it is confirmed that she isn't pregnant?

If you want full human rights for the fetus then you better beef up the homocide division. Perhaps by 10 or 20-fold to ensure all premature death cases are properly investigated.

 

[petros]

To maintain a population growth a couple has to have three children, the average is now I believe is less than 2.

In Canada US and EU yeah but elsewhere the population is growing.

in the US alone there has been 50 million lives wasted by abortion since it became legal.

About 25% of all pregnancies result in a miscarriage. If they have full human rights, and are allowed the same protection under the law as the mother, why aren't those cases investigated by a coroner? Shouldn't a pregnant woman have to report to the RCMP to disclose a pregnancy loss? If they have that protection wouldn't it be criminal neglect to drink any alcohol after sex for about one month until it is confirmed that she isn't pregnant?

If you want full human rights for the fetus then you better beef up the homocide division. Perhaps by 10 or 20-fold to ensure all premature death cases are properly investigated.

As asked before what is a person and what is a human in the legal sense?

There are Fetal Abuse laws. You didn't know that?

Unborn Victims of Violence Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004 (Public Law 108-212) is a United States law which recognizes a "child in utero" as a legal victim, if he or she is injured or killed during the commission of any of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence. The law defines "child in utero" as "a member of the species Homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb".[1]

The law is codified in two sections of the United States Code: Title 18, Chapter 1 (Crimes), §1841 (18 USC 1841) and Title 10, Chapter 22 (Uniform Code of Military Justice) §919a (Article 119a).

As asked before....What is Roe (Norma McCorvey) upto these days?

 

[JLM]

In Canada US and EU yeah but elsewhere the population is growing.

Due to cold winter nights, and poverty forcing them to engage in more cheap "entertainment".

 

[Machjo]

On the one hand, I'm against all abortion. On the other, I'm not opposed to sex-selective abortion if abortion is permitted. Besides, how would you enforce it? To not allow sex-selective abortion would run the risk of more abortions when in doubt of the gender. Besides, if you believe abortion is praiseworthy, then live with the consequences.

 

[petros]

Due to cold winter nights, and poverty forcing them to engage in more cheap "entertainment".

Doing what nature intended is "entertainment"?

 

[JLM]

Doing what nature intended is "entertainment"?

I always found it to be. Hey don't knock it, it's like killing three birds with two stones.

 

[petros]

I love my bird....

 

[Kreskin]

In Canada US and EU yeah but elsewhere the population is growing.

in the US alone there has been 50 million lives wasted by abortion since it became legal.

As asked before what is a person and what is a human in the legal sense?

There are Fetal Abuse laws. You didn't know that?

Unborn Victims of Violence Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004 (Public Law 108-212) is a United States law which recognizes a "child in utero" as a legal victim, if he or she is injured or killed during the commission of any of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence. The law defines "child in utero" as "a member of the species Homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb".[1]

The law is codified in two sections of the United States Code: Title 18, Chapter 1 (Crimes), §1841 (18 USC 1841) and Title 10, Chapter 22 (Uniform Code of Military Justice) §919a (Article 119a).

As asked before....What is Roe (Norma McCorvey) upto these days?

The difference is if she wants to delivery it she has the right to. It all goes back to HER choice, not your choice. It's all very easy to understand.

 

[Niflmir]

You make a good point there, that I'm inclined to go along with, of course one can't use the same guide lines with children as with mature women. I WAS thinking mature women.

As a reason for mature women, would you accept, "Because she wants to have a child," as a valid reason for abortion?

It may seem ludicrous at first, but if you understand how in vitro fertilization works then it becomes completely rational: IVF often results in the abortion of some number of embryos. People who claim that destruction of embryos is murder must place IVF in the same camp as abortion. Then the people who would forbid abortion would also forbid these fertility treatments.

Flat out forbidding the destruction of embryos is inhumane. Wanting to have children or wanting to be in a good place in life before you have children are not so different. Interrogating the woman to find out the reason is just seeking to punish people after that. Nobody wants to go back to the abortion panels.

 

[Goober]

As a reason for mature women, would you accept, "Because she wants to have a child," as a valid reason for abortion?

It may seem ludicrous at first, but if you understand how in vitro fertilization works then it becomes completely rational: IVF often results in the abortion of some number of embryos. People who claim that destruction of embryos is murder must place IVF in the same camp as abortion. Then the people who would forbid abortion would also forbid these fertility treatments.

Flat out forbidding the destruction of embryos is inhumane. Wanting to have children or wanting to be in a good place in life before you have children are not so different. Interrogating the woman to find out the reason is just seeking to punish people after that. Nobody wants to go back to the abortion panels.

What are vthe laws in Germany- France on abortion?