Rights American style!

[Colpy]

Some nice firepower here.
Recoil Music Video - YouTube

What the hell make is that last rifle? a 50 cal?

It is called a T-Rex rifle, in .577 cal.

I looked it up....for comparison.

T-Rex .577 generates 10,180 ft lbs of muzzle energy.

.458 Winchester Magnum (elephant gun) generates 5,570 ft lbs of energy.

A one oz 12 ga slug generates 2518 ft lbs of energy.

So if you want to feel ONE HALF the recoil of a .577, load up your double 12 ga with slugs, and touch off both barrels at once.

 

[Spade]

I love my 30-30 Winchester.

Even when you are suffering from haemorrhoids?

 

[skookumchuck]

Spelling test for right-wing bloggers

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Your lefty friend,
Spade

Tough to remember them all, not like just "free lunch" ;-)
Your sometimes in between friend skook.

 

[Colpy]

I used to favor gun control until a dope selling gangbanger knocked my teeth out in front of my home. Now it's lock and load.

A conservative is a liberal that has just been mugged.

LOL

 

[Kakato]

It is called a T-Rex rifle, in .577 cal.

I looked it up....for comparison.

T-Rex .577 generates 10,180 ft lbs of muzzle energy.

.458 Winchester Magnum (elephant gun) generates 5,570 ft lbs of energy.

A one oz 12 ga slug generates 2518 ft lbs of energy.

So if you want to feel ONE HALF the recoil of a .577, load up your double 12 ga with slugs, and touch off both barrels at once.

Bloody awesome and kind of funny to watch.

 

[lone wolf]

A conservative is a liberal that has just been mugged.

LOL

...x10

 

[Colpy]

The perception of the .357 in the public eye used to make me laugh.
I remember (mostly) young members of the local AFGA saying things like. "I want a .357 mag for Bear protection" like they were talking about a bloody Howitzer. Some of us would :roll: and inform them that what they considered a wimpy rifle, the 30.30, had more energy at 50+ yards than the vaunted .357 had at the muzzle and that supposedly "super pistol" was only a last resort weapon in fact.
I had the first Ruger Super Blackhawk .41 mag in the neighborhood, i did not get the .44 mag because i subscribed to Jack O'Connor's thinking regarding velocity vs mass.
The younguns are inclined to mix Hollywood with fact.

Actually, isn't the .41 on the regular Blackhawk frame instead of the larger super BH frame???

I always wanted a big bore BH, as I sold the .357 I had years ago.....and I missed it much. Divided between the .41 and the .45 Long Colt, but I do NOT want the large frame.

Back on topic, just for a minute guys, I promise....

The guy in the OP was irritating.

He was also fully within his rights.

Much as I sympathize with the officer wanting to kick him in the pants, it is VERY good that police are occasionally reminded that they are the servants of the people, and there are strict parameters to their behaviour.

 

[taxslave]

It is called a T-Rex rifle, in .577 cal.

I looked it up....for comparison.

T-Rex .577 generates 10,180 ft lbs of muzzle energy.

.458 Winchester Magnum (elephant gun) generates 5,570 ft lbs of energy.

A one oz 12 ga slug generates 2518 ft lbs of energy.

So if you want to feel ONE HALF the recoil of a .577, load up your double 12 ga with slugs, and touch off both barrels at once.

Sure, if you like pain.

 

[Niflmir]

This would make most lefties hike up their skirts and run to mommy:lol:
Law student puts Cop in his place.

On the contrary, I think the ACLU would be proud of this guy.

 

[taxslave]

I wonder if this wanna be liar would call the cops if he got held up at gunpoint and demand they arrest someone.

 

[Kakato]

He was on his way to the range.
Fat Guy with little Pistol - YouTube

 

[Niflmir]

I wonder if this wanna be liar would call the cops if he got held up at gunpoint and demand they arrest someone.

I don't follow your reasoning at all. On the one hand, this guy wants the police to do their job, not harass him if he is not under suspicion of a crime.

On the other hand, you basically assert that somehow he shouldn't want the police to do their job where an actual crime is being committed because of this?

Wanting the police to not interfere in lawful activity and to interfere in unlawful activity is not a hypocritical position. On the contrary, as JLM points out, the fact that he may face police harassment over this just shows that what he is doing takes some courage.

It is a shame that people like to misinterpret standing up for everybody's rights as stupidity. In that state/city you should not have the police stopping you just for carrying a gun around.

 

[Liberalman]

The Toronto G20 police force would know how to handle him a lot of law students found themselves in forced detention centres for being at a violent protest

 

[skookumchuck]

Actually, isn't the .41 on the regular Blackhawk frame instead of the larger super BH frame???

I always wanted a big bore BH, as I sold the .357 I had years ago.....and I missed it much. Divided between the .41 and the .45 Long Colt, but I do NOT want the large frame.

Back on topic, just for a minute guys, I promise....

The guy in the OP was irritating.

He was also fully within his rights.

Much as I sympathize with the officer wanting to kick him in the pants, it is VERY good that police are occasionally reminded that they are the servants of the people, and there are strict parameters to their behaviour.

Sorry off topic a bit.....
You are totally correct Colpy, my mistake in referring to it as a Super Blackhawk. The .41 was on the standard frame but IRC it was a "stretched frame".
It's been too many years as i have not dealt with handguns for a very long time, since i was dealt a full hand of stupidity by the registry idiots.
I had sold all but one of my handguns, keeping only my New Model Single Six convertible .22/.22mag, which i bought new in late '73 and having a long and pleasant history in the family.
I received a notice from the registry to register it with them and pay 80 bucks for the privilege. My response was that it had been registered with the RCMP since day one and still was, so go pack sand!
Their response was, "we have nothing to do with the RCMP", i said, really? How did you know i had a handgun?
I ignored several more semi threatening letters then finally went into the local detachment. At the counter, permit in hand, i told the gal that i had a handgun that i wanted destroyed. She said "do you have it with you?" I said, oh ya, i always walk into a cop shop with a gun:roll:, mostly because the Staff, whom i knew well was standing nearby.:lol:

I arranged for the pistol to be picked up by an officer because my work did not leave room for several days. At home i took the pistol, put it in my vise and hacksawed it into several pieces, put it into a ziplock and told my wife, when he comes give him this and get a receipt with the serial number on it!
I had a few more nasty letters from them and waited for the cops to be sent to my door so i could produce the receipt and say, you mean THIS one? Nothing ever came of it and the lie that they had no dealings with the RCMP........

 

[damngrumpy]

How does the officer know what the intent of the person carrying the gun is?
This is neither the fault of the individual or the cop it comes down to the folks
who made the law and have not made changes to fit into the twenty first
century.
We ask our police to do a job to protect the public and when they conduct
themselves properly we get a soapbox version of the people versus the state.
On the other hand we are faced with a society where people have an eroding
confidence in the police forces from allowing less than competent people to
join the forces in recent years.
I love the comment about better not catch him jaywalking. It demonstrates just
how vengeful the police authorities have become. Instead of examining how they
might avoid or handle a similar situation differently, instead they will just get even.
and We want better relations with the institutions that govern us and influence
our lives, good luck with that.

 

[BruSan]

- COLPY: The guy in the OP was irritating.

He was also fully within his rights.

Much as I sympathize with the officer wanting to kick him in the pants, it is VERY good that police are occasionally reminded that they are the servants of the people, and there are strict parameters to their behaviour.

BINGO!

He's doing what he's legally entitled to do when properly licensed. Because it's out of the norm; people observing it, ignorant of the law and his rights, get nervous and call the cops. The cops arrive also being ignorant of the law and his rights respond in knee jerk fashion to satisfy observors.

I give the cops kudos for one thing though; they quickly realized THEY weren't standing on the firmest of platforms and quickly backed off from the full frontal assault, dropped into "O.K. what's the deal here", and from that to a "have a nice day sir" full retreat, rather than attempt to ratchet it up to "hands on the car, feet apart" mode.

 

[Nuggler]

Move to the Yukon where their more worried about you if your not packing a firearm.

Oh bullshyte!! Just fukking bullshyte.

Grow the fukk up.

Canadian law applies in the Yukon, and folks don't walk around with pistols on their belts. Sam Steele put an end to that.

Jesus H Christ!!!!


And it's "they're"..................holy ****

 

[The Old Medic]

The power of the weapon is meaningless, unless you can actually HIT the person. The average gun owner rarely pulls a weapon when confronted by someone trying to rob them. Even if they did, the odds are that they wouldn't hit the perp, because most of them never actually practice shooting on any regular schedule.

I fire off a MIMIMUM of 500 rounds of pistol ammunition each and every month. When I shot on a pistol team in the Army, I averaged 1.500 rounds per day, 5 days a week, and more leading up to a Match.

I need to fire that many rounds, just to keep my "eye" in. I also fire off at least 25 rounds from my shotgun every month.

That's what i use as a person protection weapon. A 12 gauge unchoked shotgun, with No 2 shot. I will guarantee that any person that breaks into my house will at least lose a limb, if not their life.

 

[BruSan]

How does the officer know what the intent of the person carrying the gun is?
This is neither the fault of the individual or the cop it comes down to the folks
who made the law and have not made changes to fit into the twenty first
century.
We ask our police to do a job to protect the public and when they conduct
themselves properly we get a soapbox version of the people versus the state.
On the other hand we are faced with a society where people have an eroding
confidence in the police forces from allowing less than competent people to
join the forces in recent years.
I love the comment about better not catch him jaywalking. It demonstrates just
how vengeful the police authorities have become. Instead of examining how they
might avoid or handle a similar situation differently, instead they will just get even.
and We want better relations with the institutions that govern us and influence
our lives, good luck with that.

I believe it's actually a result of the P/C anti-profiling nonsense. WE have allowed that aspect of policing to become so fraught with pitfalls for the police they don't dare put a foot afoul of those laws to the point that the only time they'll take a proactive approach is when Joe public calls and whines about some guy (whose legal, mind you) has the audacity to walk around with a pistol on his hip.

Were we to give them, and allow them to use, specialized training in identifying likely offenders and to actually detain these offenders for questioning without probable cause OTHER than they fit a profile. Perhaps they would be able to approach a fellow like this and simply ask to see his permit then go about their business without all of the bluster and bravado being necessary by EITHER side.

The cops would then be free to move on down the block to the group of people clustered around the front of a boarded up building who they observed were going in and out one at a time to "face the wall and turn out your pockets". They don't dare do that now so the drug deals go on uninterrupted.

We've no one but ourselves to blame for this conundrum in law enforcement.

 

[Kakato]

Oh bullshyte!! Just fukking bullshyte.

Grow the fukk up.

Canadian law applies in the Yukon, and folks don't walk around with pistols on their belts. Sam Steele put an end to that.

Jesus H Christ!!!!


And it's "they're"..................holy ****

I meant Alaska,grow up.

In Nunavut they have posters at all the airports showing where to aim to kill an attacking polar bear.They would rather you dont go out on the tundra without at least a rifle.

When I work up there they give me a 12 gauge as soon as im off the chopper.

And you sleep with it right above your head.