Redneck- Homophobic insults force gay restaurant owners -close up sho

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It was the stench from their clothes. Just being in the joint.

It's funny. I find most cooking smells to be pleasant. I've made curry from scratch and I don't find it
any stronger smelling than other ethnic foods. Italian restaurants sometimes smell like a loaded oregano
truck crashed and burned in the kitchen but I don't find that unpleasant either.
 

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It seems some peeps found they could not bully country folk. Anyone who wants to change my mind about queers needs to be able to deal with me. I don't believe in saying a word if they keep it to themselves, but looking for trouble will get them plenty from me.


The bit in bold makes sense. But. The rest smacks of assumptions.

How is opening a restaurant 'bullying country folk'?

What did they do other than being gay and opening a business, to warrant the bullying? You say you don't believe in saying a word 'if they keep it to themselves', but what does that mean exactly? Is being obviously gay 'looking for trouble'? Your post leaves me with more questions than answers.

"that stuff"??

Presumably there were other choices on the menu. I don't see anything wrong with roast beef being one of the choices.

On the other hand, What sort of ignorant savages would object to roast beef ?

What person pays for what they cook at home?

Now a curry stuffed potatoe, I'm there. But if I'm going to pay for food, it had better be something I don't have the skill to cook. That means ethnic, interesting.

Funny how homophobes can tolerate gay women but not men.

Karrie's sexist meanderings.....

when people discuss lesbians, they seem to draw upon the social stereotypes of women as nurturers, and comforters. So a lesbian partnership is viewed as a comfortable, nurturing relationship. Even for homophobes who view it as imbalance in its overabundance of estrogen, but it's not especially harmful.

A heterosexual relationship (again, BROAD generalizations), is based upon the balance of feminine nurturing, and male drive. A woman balances out the aggressive drive of the man, and harmony is (theoretically) achieved.

But, with homosexual men, to a stereotyping mind, there is no nurture in the family unit, only drive. Thus, the mind dwells on those drives, rather than the family/relationship unit that the two men form. That means that to the mind of a homophobe, a homosexual male is a real threat, possessing all of their own aggression, sex drive, competition, without the (theoretically) calming, nurturing, grounding forces of women. This makes them unpredictable, and a threat, in a way that lesbians will never be.

I don't mind Gays.................But Gay with a lisp???????

there is a difference between disliking gay people, and disliking caricatures, or, well, annoying people. It's bigoted to pretend that gays are any less prone to being annoying people than straight people are. ;)

It's funny. I find most cooking smells to be pleasant. I've made curry from scratch and I don't find it
any stronger smelling than other ethnic foods. Italian restaurants sometimes smell like a loaded oregano
truck crashed and burned in the kitchen but I don't find that unpleasant either.

It's simply that it's an unusual smell for north americans that makes it more noticeable to them

“A lot of people don’t like it,” said Ifantis. “You don’t know what they’re doing in the kitchen.”


Oh. My. Freaking. Goodness.
 

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Homophobic insults force gay restaurant owners in small Manitoba town to close up shop
Gay owners of Pots N Hands in Morris, Manitoba, to shutter restaurant after homophobic abuse | Canada | News | National Post

A pair of gay restaurateurs is closing up shop in Morris, Man., saying they are sick of being the target of anti-gay slurs. Pots N Hands, which advertises “home cooked meals,” opened in the community of 1,700 70 kilometres south of Winnipeg just four months ago.

Ever since, alleges owner Dave Claringbould, he and his partner have been assailed by homophobic slurs, such as a customer asking if his plate of food was diseased.

“They should get the hell out of here. I don’t really like them — the service and who they are,” resident Aaron Kleinsasse told the Winnipeg Free Press this week.

Since word of the verbal attacks first became public, other locals have tried to bolster the new business by eating there or sending messages of support. But Claringbould says he has experienced homophobia in a small town before and knows some people will never change their attitudes.

Still, he said he didn’t initially expect to face blatant ignorance and insults.

“We were asked if somebody was going to catch something off of the plate because we had prepared the food on it,” Claringbould recalled Tuesday.

He said his partner calmly dealt with the customer and told the man he would be OK.

“We were very hurt and upset by it. Some of the narrow-minded things that have been said to us are absolutely shocking.”

They intend to close the restaurant on April 13.

The 35-year-old chef, originally from the United Kingdom, has worked in the restaurant business for 15 years. After cooking in kitchens in British Columbia, New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island, he settled in Manitoba.

He and his partner, who does not want to be identified, lived in Winnipeg before they bought a rural property near Morris. Claringbould taught a cooking class in town, then decided to pursue his dream of running his own restaurant.

The pair opened Pots N Hands in December, serving dishes such as baked potatoes stuffed with chicken curry, roast beef and Yorkshire pudding.

Claringbould said he and his partner didn’t hide their relationship but didn’t flaunt it either. In February, he said a group of regular customers found out they were gay and stopped coming. Others verbally attacked the couple in the restaurant and around town.

Most people in the community of 1,700 are not homophobic and have been welcoming, said Claringbould. But the others make it difficult to run a business and live there happily.

Claringbould said he and his partner previously faced homophobia when they lived in another community, which he wouldn’t name. The couple stuck it out for awhile but people just wouldn’t change their attitudes.

“We’re not prepared to go through that again.”

George Ifantis, who runs George’s Burgers & Subs in town, said he has nothing against the Pots N Hands owners, but understands that some customers might be uncomfortable with the men’s sexuality.

“A lot of people don’t like it,” said Ifantis. “You don’t know what they’re doing in the kitchen.”

One longtime resident, who asked not to be named, said she is disgusted and embarrassed by the prejudice.

“There’s a couple of village-idiot rednecks, young fellas that when they grow up they’ll understand how their vicious tongues can hurt people.”

She said the restaurant serves fabulous food and some people even drive down from Winnipeg to eat there. “We wish they would stay and not be bullied out of here.”

President of the Morris Chamber of Commerce, Pat Schmitke, said he’s hurt and disappointed.

“It’s so unfortunate, because it’s not what our little town is about. It’s certainly, absolutely not what the majority of people’s feelings are in this town.”

Schmitke said it’s the second time this year the community has been in the spotlight for bigotry allegations.

The town’s community newspaper published editorial comments in January calling aboriginals corrupt and lazy. The Morris Mirror went out of business in March.

Sickening. They were there to serve food, not sex. What's the issue?
 

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“A lot of people don’t like it,” said Ifantis. “You don’t know what they’re doing in the kitchen.”
yeah we do: cooking
She said the restaurant serves fabulous food and some people even drive down from Winnipeg to eat there. “We wish they would stay and not be bullied out of here.”
At a certain point, you have to choose your battles and decide what is worth the effort.

President of the Morris Chamber of Commerce, Pat Schmitke, said he’s hurt and disappointed.
Maybe some charges are in order since most of the community seem to know who is involved.

“It’s so unfortunate, because it’s not what our little town is about. It’s certainly, absolutely not what the majority of people’s feelings are in this town.”

Schmitke said it’s the second time this year the community has been in the spotlight for bigotry allegations.
so I have to wonder, why they opened up in this particular town

The town’s community newspaper published editorial comments in January calling aboriginals corrupt and lazy. The Morris Mirror went out of business in March.
so the majority do not tolerate bigots but then, that is usually the case, it is frequently the exceptions to the rule that make life a misery
 

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People should mind their own friggin' business, if the grub is good at a reasonable price, who (in their right mind) gives a sh*t about extra curricular activities?
P.S. And they wash their hands regularly-:)
 

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People should mind their own friggin' business, if the grub is good at a reasonable price, who (in their right mind) gives a sh*t about extra curricular activities?
P.S. And they wash their hands regularly-:)
funny you should mention hand washing, that should be people's main concern around food, sanitary conditions...but there's no help for low IQ reactions

Plus I doubt their business was doing badly, I just think it sounds like they had no energy for the battle.
 

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“A lot of people don’t like it,” said Ifantis. “You don’t know what they’re doing in the kitchen.”[/quote]

If the principle is that because the couple is sexually attracted to one another that they might therefore decide to have sex in the kitchetn, would that not also apply to a heterosexual couple?

People should mind their own friggin' business, if the grub is good at a reasonable price, who (in their right mind) gives a sh*t about extra curricular activities?
P.S. And they wash their hands regularly-:)

And just think of what heterosexual hands can do!
 

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funny you should mention hand washing, that should be people's main concern around food, sanitary conditions...but there's no help for low IQ reactions

Plus I doubt their business was doing badly, I just think it sounds like they had no energy for the battle.

Maybe they should have hung a big sign outside the door- "homophobes tolerated if they mind their manners"-:)
 

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“A lot of people don’t like it,” said Ifantis. “You don’t know what they’re doing in the kitchen.”[/quote]

If the principle is that because the couple is sexually attracted to one another that they might therefore decide to have sex in the kitchetn, would that not also apply to a heterosexual couple?



And just think of what heterosexual hands can do!

Them too.
 

Sal

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Maybe they should have hung a big sign outside the door- "homophobes tolerated if they mind their manners"-:)
it's just too bad when situations such as this occur because everyone loses... in a small town every business counts and they were pulling people from the big city... when people drive that far they tend to "shop" so other merchants are indirect stake holders and they lose too which would be why they did direct support. But in the end, our jobs are about financial support and that must be balanced against peace of mind and quality of life.

Or: We don't mind homophobes, but do mind homophobia.
yes... and there is that quote now;
“I hate the word homophobia. It's not a phobia. You are not scared. You are an ***hole.”Morgan Freeman


Studies show:

Homophobia is not an actual phobia, according to three University of Arkansas psychologists. In a recent study, these researchers showed that homophobia originates not out of fear or anxiety -- as true phobias do -- but from feelings of disgust.

The UA researchers also found close associations between homophobic tendencies and concerns about contamination as well as conservative views about sexuality in general. Their findings suggest a social, attitudinal basis for homophobia rather than a psychopathological one, as the term itself implies.
 

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it's just too bad when situations such as this occur because everyone loses... in a small town every business counts and they were pulling people from the big city... when people drive that far they tend to "shop" so other merchants are indirect stake holders and they lose too which would be why they did direct support. But in the end, our jobs are about financial support and that must be balanced against peace of mind and quality of life.

yes... and there is that quote now;
“I hate the word homophobia. It's not a phobia. You are not scared. You are an ***hole.”Morgan Freeman


Studies show:

Homophobia is not an actual phobia, according to three University of Arkansas psychologists. In a recent study, these researchers showed that homophobia originates not out of fear or anxiety -- as true phobias do -- but from feelings of disgust.

The UA researchers also found close associations between homophobic tendencies and concerns about contamination as well as conservative views about sexuality in general. Their findings suggest a social, attitudinal basis for homophobia rather than a psychopathological one, as the term itself implies.

Anger, hate, disgust, they are all masking emotions for fear.

Homophobia is the perfect term. When you dig through the self-defensive buffalo ****, they aren't anger, or hateful, or disgusted, they're SCARED.
 

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Anger, hate, disgust, they are all masking emotions for fear.

Homophobia is the perfect term. When you dig through the self-defensive buffalo ****, they aren't anger, or hateful, or disgusted, they're SCARED.

To be honest the thought of Homosexual acts disgusts me, BUT I'm quite sure gays are not going to attack me, so fear doesn't enter into it. There is far too much making an issue out of sexual orientation going on.
 

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Anger, hate, disgust, they are all masking emotions for fear.

Homophobia is the perfect term. When you dig through the self-defensive buffalo ****, they aren't anger, or hateful, or disgusted, they're SCARED.
well the anger and hate and disgust may still exist but it could be argued that anger, hate and disgust all originate from a fear of "something"
 

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To be honest the thought of Homosexual acts disgusts me, BUT I'm quite sure gays are not going to attack me, so fear doesn't enter into it. There is far too much making an issue out of sexual orientation going on.

To be hones, the thought of heterosexual acts disgusts me (unless I'm one of the actors).

Here's a brainwave. How 'bout we all agree to not stick our noses into other people's bedrooms?

well the anger and hate and disgust may still exist but it could be argued that anger, hate and disgust all originate from a fear of "something"

Yeah, fear of getting butt-fu cked. And more important, fear of liking it.