Racism spreading to the left?
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Racism is not the domain of left or right it is just there. Sometimes something is
labelled racism when it is something else. Racism as a policy is dependent on
the context it is being used in. For example, they are coming here and taking our
jobs might be considered racist, if those jobs are being taken within the boarders
of Canada. Remembering that the people coming here are becoming new
Canadian citizens.
Saying that it is racist, when we claim the jobs are being exported to China is not
racist at all, it is from a position of political protectionism but that in my view is not
racist and there is some merit of fact. The problem is that not only is it valid, the
complicity of government and Canadian companies are also to blame here.
There are some serious problems developing here that most people are not even
aware of the mounting problems. Let us look first at the WTO agreements, they
are coming up for a vote, this June. Most agree the present round that took ten
years to negotiate, is dead on arrival. I know this to be true as I got to listen to
Canada's trade negotiator state it quite plainly that the talks are dead and it likely
that the plan B that was also being discussed is dead as well. This could mean it
will be twenty years before a deal is reached. What does this have to do with
anything? You will soon see more and more economic nationalism raise its head.
I don't get upset about that as I am not a political nationalist but I am an economic
nationalist. I believe we should use our natural resources to benefit Canadians first,
and especially Canadian Companies. One price for us another for foreign companies,
Advantage Canada. The end result will be increased protectionist policy over the
next several years.
The second problem that is already beginning in Europe will likely raise its head in this
country down the road. Here is one problem, both the left and the right in Holland,,
Germany, France and even Britain, are becoming more and more politically nationalistic.
Considerable elements of the left and right, want Muslims booted out, oh they don't
describe them as Muslims but it means the same thing. Listen to the politicians, in these
countries. The German Chancellor, the French President, the left and right politicians in
Holland, and the polite expressions of the new British Government, all making the same
statement, Multiculturalism has Failed.
That is the first shot across the bow as it were, and they are responding to the voices of
the people in the street. Business people, seniors, and trade unions, are more and more
vocal about the perceived enemy amongst them.
It is a complicated situation as, if the governments ignore the problem it will fester and the
politicians will lose their seats, if they act in compliance with the wishes of those who hold
the ballot cards, it could eventually lead to riots and violence, it could lead to civil war or
even the ghastly process of ethnic cleansing. And the problem could easily spread across
the pond to North America. If we experience a serious economic downturn there is a
common enemy to be singled out. There is always one group that stands out as different
and this time we could see a multicultural backlash where whites, Orientals, Blacks and
Indo Canadians could be on one side against the new minority the Muslims.
Tragically when racism raises its head everyone in the minority group gets painted with the
same brush, other minorities within the group join in, that way they won't be singled out.
To suggest that racism is a left or right concept is to be out of touch with reality. Racism
knows no bounds of left and right it only knows itself by its own ignorance and intolerance,
and the meanest of spirits within the human race. I have so many friends of different races
and cultures i could hold a United Nations meeting and it troubles me to see what could
well be coming, but then its always been here among us. Years ago in BC a hundred
years ago the election battle cry was Beware of the Yellow Peril, so I guess we have not
really progressed to much further down the road of history have we?
labelled racism when it is something else. Racism as a policy is dependent on
the context it is being used in. For example, they are coming here and taking our
jobs might be considered racist, if those jobs are being taken within the boarders
of Canada. Remembering that the people coming here are becoming new
Canadian citizens.
Saying that it is racist, when we claim the jobs are being exported to China is not
racist at all, it is from a position of political protectionism but that in my view is not
racist and there is some merit of fact. The problem is that not only is it valid, the
complicity of government and Canadian companies are also to blame here.
There are some serious problems developing here that most people are not even
aware of the mounting problems. Let us look first at the WTO agreements, they
are coming up for a vote, this June. Most agree the present round that took ten
years to negotiate, is dead on arrival. I know this to be true as I got to listen to
Canada's trade negotiator state it quite plainly that the talks are dead and it likely
that the plan B that was also being discussed is dead as well. This could mean it
will be twenty years before a deal is reached. What does this have to do with
anything? You will soon see more and more economic nationalism raise its head.
I don't get upset about that as I am not a political nationalist but I am an economic
nationalist. I believe we should use our natural resources to benefit Canadians first,
and especially Canadian Companies. One price for us another for foreign companies,
Advantage Canada. The end result will be increased protectionist policy over the
next several years.
The second problem that is already beginning in Europe will likely raise its head in this
country down the road. Here is one problem, both the left and the right in Holland,,
Germany, France and even Britain, are becoming more and more politically nationalistic.
Considerable elements of the left and right, want Muslims booted out, oh they don't
describe them as Muslims but it means the same thing. Listen to the politicians, in these
countries. The German Chancellor, the French President, the left and right politicians in
Holland, and the polite expressions of the new British Government, all making the same
statement, Multiculturalism has Failed.
That is the first shot across the bow as it were, and they are responding to the voices of
the people in the street. Business people, seniors, and trade unions, are more and more
vocal about the perceived enemy amongst them.
It is a complicated situation as, if the governments ignore the problem it will fester and the
politicians will lose their seats, if they act in compliance with the wishes of those who hold
the ballot cards, it could eventually lead to riots and violence, it could lead to civil war or
even the ghastly process of ethnic cleansing. And the problem could easily spread across
the pond to North America. If we experience a serious economic downturn there is a
common enemy to be singled out. There is always one group that stands out as different
and this time we could see a multicultural backlash where whites, Orientals, Blacks and
Indo Canadians could be on one side against the new minority the Muslims.
Tragically when racism raises its head everyone in the minority group gets painted with the
same brush, other minorities within the group join in, that way they won't be singled out.
To suggest that racism is a left or right concept is to be out of touch with reality. Racism
knows no bounds of left and right it only knows itself by its own ignorance and intolerance,
and the meanest of spirits within the human race. I have so many friends of different races
and cultures i could hold a United Nations meeting and it troubles me to see what could
well be coming, but then its always been here among us. Years ago in BC a hundred
years ago the election battle cry was Beware of the Yellow Peril, so I guess we have not
really progressed to much further down the road of history have we?
You construed it that way...... I see it as people identifying a country taking jobs from people in Canada who are complaining about needing jobs..... there's no racism involved.
I don't see it so much as taking away jobs from other countries, but more about protecting, keeping and/or getting back the jobs we already lost to another country, because they can produce a cheaper & lower quality product.
Take this for example:
Pictou firm loses military contract to Chinese copies
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/news/77189-pictou-firm-loses-military-contract.html
^ It has nothing to do with racism.
I still don't see it that way, as it's about maintaining jobs and having a quality product that lasts long for a bit more cost over a lower priced, lower quality product....... my stance has always been that if we can make the same product (or better) within our own country and create jobs within our own country, then we should.
I can't speak for other people & what they said because I don't know their thinking or the context of what they actually said.
Ive noticed the people who identify as the 'left" enjoy bashing us redneck hillbilly country folk. Which is fine
But you know what, those academics living the cushy life in gayronto wouldn't have that right if it weren't for us fighting for it and working blue collar jobs to keep this country together.
But you know what, those academics living the cushy life in gayronto wouldn't have that right if it weren't for us fighting for it and working blue collar jobs to keep this country together.
its a word get over it... Cancel your pedicure loose the blouse, grow a mustache and hardin the **** up
Yes, I agree with this.
Lefties like to use racist whenever they do not agree with your statements and they want to stifle your line reasoning.
They do the same with the word, bigot, which does not have a very well defined definition.
Lefties like to have things there way and whenever you dont follow their line of reasoning, they like to start calling you down by using these names.
I second this statement !!
why are you offended? Those people have chosen and accepted that lifestyle for themselves and are not bothered with what i say indirectly about them anyways. Why should you? Are you Laurence of gayrabia?
What about pretty much the whole British Commonwealth refusing Chinese immigration from Hong Kong during their exodus (1 July 1997) when China took over. Those Chinese were English citizens, yet they were limited to who would grant them asylum because of racism. Yes, looks like even the so called best of countries can be racist. We are only perfect in our mind.
There has always been racism and there always will be.
The worst offenders, though, are the ones who are professional racists, shakedown artists and poverty pimps who became obscenely wealthy peddling eternal and never-ending victimhood. Those who would be out of a job is racism was ever eradicated. These people tell minorities that those minorities are stupid and incapable of achieving anything without affirmative action and discriminating set-asides. The same people who encourage recent immigrants from Africa to demand reparation from recent immigrants from Europe because America had slavery. But they never mention that America ended slavery at the expense of thousands of lives of WHITE people. These same people claim that a Black person can not possibly EVER be racist. The same people who call Jews and Asians offensive names and encourage their blind followers to torch the businesses of Jews and Asians. These same people call fellow blacks who dare to disagree with them politically as 'uncle toms' and 'house ni66ers'.
Need names? How about Jesse Jackson? Al Sharpton? Sister Solja? Hundreds more on request, but note that all these worthies are liberals and Democrats.
The worst offenders, though, are the ones who are professional racists, shakedown artists and poverty pimps who became obscenely wealthy peddling eternal and never-ending victimhood. Those who would be out of a job is racism was ever eradicated. These people tell minorities that those minorities are stupid and incapable of achieving anything without affirmative action and discriminating set-asides. The same people who encourage recent immigrants from Africa to demand reparation from recent immigrants from Europe because America had slavery. But they never mention that America ended slavery at the expense of thousands of lives of WHITE people. These same people claim that a Black person can not possibly EVER be racist. The same people who call Jews and Asians offensive names and encourage their blind followers to torch the businesses of Jews and Asians. These same people call fellow blacks who dare to disagree with them politically as 'uncle toms' and 'house ni66ers'.
Need names? How about Jesse Jackson? Al Sharpton? Sister Solja? Hundreds more on request, but note that all these worthies are liberals and Democrats.
No its not. Go sit in the lunch room of any unionized workforce and listen to the jokes and talk. In government circles they try to hide it by being so PC that it is pathetic.
MLK was a hardcore Commie!
In unions if you make one un-PC crack you are down the road. Go bull**** elsewhere.
Please be aware that two posts have been removed due to the usage of "fixed it for you". Fixing another member's post(s) to say something other than what they originally posted is NOT permitted here.
''Racism is not the domain of left or right it is just there. Sometimes something is
labelled racism when it is something else.''
That's true. But for some reason the right likes to accuse libs of being the only ones who play the race when it is they who do it more often and they hate it when this is pointed out. For example, I've come across numerous websites where the right repeatedly accuses libs of being racist. Yet, when libs ask, where were you when the Tea Baggers created thousands of racist anti-Obama placards (many of which were posted on this forum) - those same right wingers, who initially were so enthused about the TB's, go silent.
labelled racism when it is something else.''
That's true. But for some reason the right likes to accuse libs of being the only ones who play the race when it is they who do it more often and they hate it when this is pointed out. For example, I've come across numerous websites where the right repeatedly accuses libs of being racist. Yet, when libs ask, where were you when the Tea Baggers created thousands of racist anti-Obama placards (many of which were posted on this forum) - those same right wingers, who initially were so enthused about the TB's, go silent.
I guess I'd be considered a Lefty.... not just because I'm left handed.... but I restrict when and how I use the racist card in debates..... but one thing I noticed over the years is that anytime someone finger points or exposes wrong doings from Israel, specifically their government or military actions (not the people themselves).... they're automatically branded an anti-semite to try and shut them down. And it's generally the Right who toss that out.
I'm not saying the Left don't pull similar stunts, but I haven't seen any examples provided.
Which I guess means it can be used pretty openly if it's not very well defined.
If I could see some examples, perhaps quotes within the forums/threads, I could better understand where you are coming from.
Finally..... it's about time someone made up that rule :lol:
I always found it annoying.