Quit picking on Obama……

gopher

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''I'm criticising you. Feel free to criticize me. ''

If anyone is going to criticize, they should try to act reasonably and offer rational alternatives.

For example, I have suggested calling in the untaxed sheltered assets to end the Federal deficit and the end to the income tax. The far right criticizes Obama but offers nothing in return.

You may recall that an exit poll was taken last November (I believe it was by CNN) which said that some people voted for Obama because of all the right wing criticism. These attacks, the respondents said, prompted them to vote that way because the right wing offered nothing constructive. While you of the far right insist on spreading more hate becuase you feel it will get more votes for your side, you will likely find that your hopes for an election victory will not pan out. Time will tell for sure.

So keep up the hate because all it does is to show you have nothing rational to offer the public.
 

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ironsides

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''He opened himself up to being picked on when he became a politician. lol IMO, they are all fair game. ''

But he did not start two wars like Bush did.

No, Obama did not start or finish any wars, but he did destroy yours and the worlds economy. Any problems you have economically belong to yourselves, Obama and his merry men. You were so happy he won, now enjoy your victory, you deserve it.
 

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''I'm criticising you. Feel free to criticize me. ''

If anyone is going to criticize, they should try to act reasonably and offer rational alternatives.

For example, I have suggested calling in the untaxed sheltered assets to end the Federal deficit and the end to the income tax. The far right criticizes Obama but offers nothing in return.

You may recall that an exit poll was taken last November (I believe it was by CNN) which said that some people voted for Obama because of all the right wing criticism. These attacks, the respondents said, prompted them to vote that way because the right wing offered nothing constructive. While you of the far right insist on spreading more hate becuase you feel it will get more votes for your side, you will likely find that your hopes for an election victory will not pan out. Time will tell for sure.

So keep up the hate because all it does is to show you have nothing rational to offer the public.

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EagleSmack

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Who cares what blunders someone else did? This is about Obama and his blunders. I picked on Bush when people posted threads about him. I had enough of that.

No No Anna...please... you must continue to critisize Bush and leave Obama alone. Just let Obama be and relive the old days would you?
 

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No, Obama did not start or finish any wars, but he did destroy yours and the worlds economy. Any problems you have economically belong to yourselves, Obama and his merry men. You were so happy he won, now enjoy your victory, you deserve it.


Sorry, ironsides, that won’t wash. The current economic problems were caused by the Republicans, Obama is trying to fix the problems (and Republicans are gleefully hoping that USA slides into a depression with 25% unemployment and 20% inflation, so that it will be easier for them to win back the power).

And that is what most opinion polls show, a majority of Americans say that Obama inherited the economic problems (except I assume the far right, according to the far right, there was positively a paradise in USA until January 2009, then all of a sudden USA became a living Hell overnight).
 

ironsides

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Sorry, ironsides, that won’t wash. The current economic problems were caused by the Republicans, Obama is trying to fix the problems (and Republicans are gleefully hoping that USA slides into a depression with 25% unemployment and 20% inflation, so that it will be easier for them to win back the power).

And that is what most opinion polls show, a majority of Americans say that Obama inherited the economic problems (except I assume the far right, according to the far right, there was positively a paradise in USA until January 2009, then all of a sudden USA became a living Hell overnight).

You have to get out more often and stop looking at opinion polls. Obama has had more than enough time to institute change. He made a big mistake by putting in position of authority some of those very people responsible for causing the economic collapse in the first place. No paradise, but a whole lot better than what we have now. We did not have 14+ million out of jobs for a start. The wars are still going on, so no change there. People were happy, which some may find strange, but much happier than they are now. (to much fear about losing jobs and homes now) Of course Liberals (who do not like to admit guilt, and tend to forget) Remember they controlled the goverment 2 years before Obama took office, and did absolutely nothing. Short piece of advice, "never assume anything", and keep in mind that "The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese."
 

SirJosephPorter

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You have to get out more often and stop looking at opinion polls. Obama has had more than enough time to institute change.

No he hasn’t, he has not been in the office for even one year. Things move slowly in Washington, I don’t think his presidency can be judged for at least a couple of years. Even that is too short a time. After two years, Clinton had lost the senate and the House, it looked very much like he may be a one term president. But he came roaring back, was able to fix the economy, win an easy reelection and left office with approval rating in high 60s. So even two years may be too short a time. But less than one year? Forget it. The only persons who will judge a president after a few months in office are the political partisans.

No paradise, but a whole lot better than what we have now.

For Republicans, perhaps.

. We did not have 14+ million out of jobs for a start. The wars are still going on, so no change there.

These are continuations from the Bush era. Bush put the economy in the ditch, Bush left office with the worst economic meltdown since the depression, it would be ludicrous to expect Obama to fix it in less than a year.

As to war, I think he is pretty much continuing Bush policies in Afghanistan, and is withdrawing from Iraq.

People were happy, which some may find strange, but much happier than they are now. (to much fear about losing jobs and homes now)

Certainly Republicans were happier in Bush days.

Remember they controlled the goverment 2 years before Obama took office, and did absolutely nothing

For those two years, Democrats had the slimmest of majorities in the Senate (51 to 49) and the House. Democrats could not do much even if they wanted to. Besides Bush was there to veto anything Democrats wanted to pass. Anything that happens in the country, people tend to hold the president responsible, but the Congress.
 

AnnaG

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Sorry, ironsides, that won’t wash. The current economic problems were caused by the Republicans, Obama is trying to fix the problems (and Republicans are gleefully hoping that USA slides into a depression with 25% unemployment and 20% inflation, so that it will be easier for them to win back the power).

And that is what most opinion polls show, a majority of Americans say that Obama inherited the economic problems (except I assume the far right, according to the far right, there was positively a paradise in USA until January 2009, then all of a sudden USA became a living Hell overnight).
What a load of camel cookies. The economy has been building to this for a lot longer than Bush's shenanigans. Take your partisan rosy blinders off, Joke.
 

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The viewpoint is pretty accurate.

Until the people of the U.S. give Obama a mandate to do something, not much will happen. Problem being we are not even close to supporting everything he would like to do, especially with international relations. Were still not totally supportive of what he want to do internally. Just because a person wins a election, does not give them carte blanch to do anything they want.
 

SirJosephPorter

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ironsides, Obama has the mandate to enact as much of his agenda as he can. Then he will be judged in four years by the people.

You claim that he doesn’t have the mandate to do anything. Then what do you expect him to do, just sit in the White House? No way, he was elected by promising certain things, it is incumbent upon his to do his best to deliver on them. People will judge him in four years how successful he has been.
 

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Why do you always repeat? This isn't a scientific report ... and you're no Stompin' Tom. Why do you always repeat? This isn't a scientific report ... and you're no Stompin' Tom....
 

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ironsides, Obama has the mandate to enact as much of his agenda as he can. Then he will be judged in four years by the people.

You claim that he doesn’t have the mandate to do anything. Then what do you expect him to do, just sit in the White House? No way, he was elected by promising certain things, it is incumbent upon his to do his best to deliver on them. People will judge him in four years how successful he has been.

Glad you approve of him so much. Didn't another President do something like this also? We got no change, just more controversy.

Obama warns Afghan president: Time for new chapter - Yahoo! News



"Yet the White House put its weight behind the legitimacy of the final outcome after helping to broker a runoff that never happened. Obama called the process "messy" but said Karzai won in accordance with Afghan law. The White House repeatedly said Abdullah had pulled out for his own political and personal reasons."

Yup, political and personal reasons. If everything holds to schedule, just about the time the war should be over or at least under Afghan control all hell will break loose.
 

gopher

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''Who cares what blunders someone else did? This is about Obama and his blunders.''


What a load of crock! Bush was criticized AFTER he f****d up the economy and started two wars.

The far right lunatics criticized and attacked Obama even BEFORE he got into the White House. The drug delusional right wingers embarked on a campaign of hate from Day One. And to this day they still haven't proven that Obama screwed up like their hero Bush did.
 

gopher

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''Obama did not start or finish any wars, but he did destroy yours and the worlds economy''


Typical know nothing reply with not a single shred of evidence to support this ridiculous claim.

Thanks to Obama you now have this:


Manufacturing at a 3-1/2 year high

Purchasing managers' index of manufacturing activity shows GROWTH for the third straight month, indicating a 'sustainable recovery.'


Manufacturing in 'recovery mode' - Nov. 2, 2009



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'' Home sales contracts RISE for 8th straight month''


Signed home sales contracts reach 33-month high - Nov. 2, 2009


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I must have posted about a dozen links like these to prove that the economy is improving under Obama. Yet, the hate filled and willfully blind cynics continue to insist that Obama has screwed the economy. Instead of repeating the same lies over and over again, why don't you deluded far right America haters present evidence which proves your ridiculous claims??
 

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What a load of crock! Bush was criticized AFTER he f****d up the economy and started two wars.

lol that's funny. The criticism started before Bush took the oath of office. I seem to remember people throwing temper tantrums because he stole the election. You really need to come up with some credible arguments if you ever want to be taken seriously.
 

gopher

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That was criticism that was directed towards the Florida secretary of state and towards the Supreme Court for its vote. Note one word of that was directed at Bush.

You really need to do your homework buddy. You keep striking out and I feel embarassed for you.