Quit picking on Obama……
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Note how the name Katharine Harris of Florida is repeatedly used.
Thanks for confirming what I wrote.
Thanks for confirming what I wrote.
When you finally prove a point you are trying to make, then I may possibly take you seriously. You need to do your homework as you obviously know nothing about American politics.
Gopher, the far right was uncomfortable with a black president from the word go (or even before the word go). Besides, they thought Hillary was going to be the candidate, they had done massive opposition reach on her, they were salivating at the prospect of trashing, badmouthing Hillary non stop until the Election Day.
Indeed, they were trashing Hillary even when the primaries were in progress. Remember them ridiculing Hillary’s ‘cackle’, or Rush ‘drug addict’ Limbaugh’s comment that Hillary was too ugly to become the president? Some of them were hoping that if a black got the nomination, he will be easier to beat. Whatever the reason, I don’t think they have ever forgiven Democrats for nominating a black, and Americans for electing a black.
So it is no wonder they were criticizing Obama from the day he was elected (indeed, even before he was elected) and they started attributing the economic downturn to Obama the day he was elected. Indeed, I remember when stock market started its tumble (Dow bottomed at 6500), Bush was still the president, but the far right blamed the stock market drop on Obama. Their point was that every item Obama opened his mouth, Dow dropped by 200 points.
Yup, Bush did it one month before the 2008 elections, and all by himself.
Only time will tell the full story of the stock market crash of 2008, but on Monday October 6, the stock market would start a weeklong decline in which the Dow Jones Industrial Average would fall 1,874 points or 18.1%. And while the cause of this crash may differ from those of 1929 and 1987, they all share one common element - they all began in October.
No one really had any idea of what was going to happen (except a few lucky ones) before the market crashed. As we have discussed before there were many Presidential terms involved in this going back 20-30 years.
By the way, the market did drop another 200 points every time Obama opened his mouth for a while.
Only time will tell the full story of the stock market crash of 2008, but on Monday October 6, the stock market would start a weeklong decline in which the Dow Jones Industrial Average would fall 1,874 points or 18.1%. And while the cause of this crash may differ from those of 1929 and 1987, they all share one common element - they all began in October.
No one really had any idea of what was going to happen (except a few lucky ones) before the market crashed. As we have discussed before there were many Presidential terms involved in this going back 20-30 years.
By the way, the market did drop another 200 points every time Obama opened his mouth for a while.
Exactly, Republicans blamed Obama for the October stock market crash, even though he was not the President, and Bush was the President. So you really reinforce my assertion that the far right Republican base started blaming the economic downturn on Obama even before he came to office.
Just saving space.
Sounds like a real strong rise in manufacturing. Nothing permanent, it will drop again. Again back to you better than what? Last year, 3 years ago, 5 years ago I would sgree with you.
"The jump in the index was driven by production and employment," said Norbert Ore, chair of the ISM's manufacturing business survey committee. "Overall, it appears that inventories are balanced and that manufacturing is in a sustainable recovery mode."
The employment index rose to 53.1, indicating growth for the first time in 14 months. The ISM says an employment index above 49.7 is "generally consistent" with an increase in government jobs data in the manufacturing sector.
Ore said the jump in manufacturing employment was due to "some callbacks and opportunities for temporary workers."
Who care that home sales are up, people are still losing money which is all important to them: http://rismedia.com/2009-10-27/u-s-home-prices-for-august-2009-off-11-3-from-year-ago/
Yes home sales are up, people are abandoning homes to the banks and renting more affordable places to live. There are bargains out there if you have money.
The job market keeps getting worse.
''So you're basically saying Obama is awesome because he isn't Bush. roflmao ''
Read my post again but do so while sober and you won't break out in giggles.
Read my post again but do so while sober and you won't break out in giggles.
''you really reinforce my assertion that the far right Republican base started blaming the economic downturn on Obama even before he came to office. ''
These right wingers are all on drugs. To blame Obama for what Bush did is utter lunacy. But that's Republicans for ya ...
These right wingers are all on drugs. To blame Obama for what Bush did is utter lunacy. But that's Republicans for ya ...
GOP sweep: Big governor victories in Virginia, NJ
By LIZ SIDOTI, AP National Political Writer Liz Sidoti, Ap National Political Writer
WASHINGTON – Independents who swept Barack Obama to a historic 2008 victory broke big for Republicans on Tuesday as the GOP wrested political control from Democrats in Virginia and New Jersey, a troubling sign for the president and his party heading into an important midterm election year.
Conservative Republican Bob McDonnell's victory in the Virginia governor's race over Democrat R. Creigh Deeds and moderate Republican Chris Christie's ouster of unpopular New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine was a double-barreled triumph for a party looking to rebuild after being booted from power in national elections in 2006 and 2008.
The outcomes were sure to feed discussion about the state of the electorate, the status of the diverse coalition that sent Obama to the White House and the limits of the president's influence — on the party's base of support and on moderate current lawmakers he needs to advance his legislative priorities.
His signature issue of health care reform was dealt a blow hours before polls closed when Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid signaled that Congress may not complete health care legislation this year, missing Obama's deadline and pushing debate into a congressional election year.
Elsewhere on Tuesday, Maine voters weighed in on same-sex marriage in a closely watched initiative, and New York and California picked congressmen for two vacant seats. A slew of cities selected mayors, and Ohio voted on allowing casinos.
The president had personally campaigned for Deeds and Corzine, seeking to ensure that independents and base voters alike turned out even if he wasn't on the ballot. Thus, the losses were blots on Obama's political standing to a certain degree and suggested potential problems ahead as he seeks to achieve his policy goals, protect Democratic majorities in Congress and expand his party's grip on governors' seats next fall.
By LIZ SIDOTI, AP National Political Writer Liz Sidoti, Ap National Political Writer
WASHINGTON – Independents who swept Barack Obama to a historic 2008 victory broke big for Republicans on Tuesday as the GOP wrested political control from Democrats in Virginia and New Jersey, a troubling sign for the president and his party heading into an important midterm election year.
Conservative Republican Bob McDonnell's victory in the Virginia governor's race over Democrat R. Creigh Deeds and moderate Republican Chris Christie's ouster of unpopular New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine was a double-barreled triumph for a party looking to rebuild after being booted from power in national elections in 2006 and 2008.
The outcomes were sure to feed discussion about the state of the electorate, the status of the diverse coalition that sent Obama to the White House and the limits of the president's influence — on the party's base of support and on moderate current lawmakers he needs to advance his legislative priorities.
His signature issue of health care reform was dealt a blow hours before polls closed when Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid signaled that Congress may not complete health care legislation this year, missing Obama's deadline and pushing debate into a congressional election year.
Elsewhere on Tuesday, Maine voters weighed in on same-sex marriage in a closely watched initiative, and New York and California picked congressmen for two vacant seats. A slew of cities selected mayors, and Ohio voted on allowing casinos.
The president had personally campaigned for Deeds and Corzine, seeking to ensure that independents and base voters alike turned out even if he wasn't on the ballot. Thus, the losses were blots on Obama's political standing to a certain degree and suggested potential problems ahead as he seeks to achieve his policy goals, protect Democratic majorities in Congress and expand his party's grip on governors' seats next fall.
''Maybe the three Democrat Governors who will loose tonight will blame Obama?''
Not in Virginia - the nitwits there picked Deeds who openly rejected Obama's help during the campaign.
The Republican candidate was known for suggesting women should be barefoot and pregnant but that was probably a good selling point among the Pukies.
As for Jersey, Corzine has been involved in a couple of scandals and a drunk driving charge. This never hurts the GOP but it always hurts Dems. Obama campaigned for him VERY late in the process and Biden (who is very popular in South Jersey) never bothered to show up in his defense.
You mentioned a third state - which one?
Not in Virginia - the nitwits there picked Deeds who openly rejected Obama's help during the campaign.
The Republican candidate was known for suggesting women should be barefoot and pregnant but that was probably a good selling point among the Pukies.
As for Jersey, Corzine has been involved in a couple of scandals and a drunk driving charge. This never hurts the GOP but it always hurts Dems. Obama campaigned for him VERY late in the process and Biden (who is very popular in South Jersey) never bothered to show up in his defense.
You mentioned a third state - which one?
Sorry, I meant the New york race for the House member...too close to call right now but could go either way.....
This is from Gallup, so it's probably too right-wing for some.
November 3, 2009
One Year After Election, Americans Less Sure About Obama
Far fewer say he will be able to control federal spending or heal political divisions
by Frank Newport
PRINCETON, NJ -- Americans are much less positive than they were a year ago that President Barack Obama will be able to accomplish a number of challenges facing his administration. In particular, far fewer Americans believe he will be able to heal political divisions and control federal spending.
November 3, 2009
One Year After Election, Americans Less Sure About Obama
Far fewer say he will be able to control federal spending or heal political divisions
by Frank Newport
PRINCETON, NJ -- Americans are much less positive than they were a year ago that President Barack Obama will be able to accomplish a number of challenges facing his administration. In particular, far fewer Americans believe he will be able to heal political divisions and control federal spending.
Oh I see - Bill Owens was ahead when I last heard. Owens is a great scholar and served in the military for many years. He is moderate Democrat and has all the credentials to be a good pol - he opposes tax increases, wants to have Bush's corporate tax cuts expire, and wants legislation that protects hs area from exporting jobs (I want this at the Federal level). By the way, he LOVES Canada!
CNN Poll: 54 percent approve of Obama
CNN Poll: 54 percent approve of Obama - CNN.com
''One year after he won a historical presidential election, a slight majority of Americans approve of the job Barack Obama's doing in the White House.
Fifty-four percent of people questioned in a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey released Tuesday approve of how Obama is handling his duties as president, with 45 percent saying they disapprove.
"Obama's approval rating of 54 percent is nearly identical to the 53 percent of the vote he won a year ago," notes CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. ''
CNN Poll: 54 percent approve of Obama - CNN.com
''One year after he won a historical presidential election, a slight majority of Americans approve of the job Barack Obama's doing in the White House.
Fifty-four percent of people questioned in a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey released Tuesday approve of how Obama is handling his duties as president, with 45 percent saying they disapprove.
"Obama's approval rating of 54 percent is nearly identical to the 53 percent of the vote he won a year ago," notes CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. ''