Quit picking on Obama……

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Anna, I am not a passionate fan of Ronnie reagan, but truth is truth.

Reagan proposed a complete removal of nuclear weapons with the USSR.....None.

Reagan negotiated a treaty that banned an entire class of nukes, the first time that had ever been done.

Reagan set the stage for Bush Sr. to sign a treaty radically cutting back on nukes.

SDI was a defensive shield, and the statement that Reagan "escalated nuclear armanent" is simply untrue.

Reagan ENDED the Cold War.
 

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Absolutely incorrect! In fact, exactly the opposite is true. Take the time....an interesting read....

President Reagan's Legacy and U.S. Nuclear Weapons Policy | The Heritage Foundation

BTW, I agree about Reagan in Central America.....his support of the Contras was ludicrous, and came close to destroying his Presidency.

That's all well and good and something I pointed out about a month ago when Obama signed a treaty with the Russians about nuclear arms reductions and Sarah Palin said Reagan would be rolling in his grave over it. However, Reagan and many presidents like him wwere the mechanism that fed the industrial military complex....and sadly the real driver of foreign policy in the US.

Besides, tanks, boats, guns, bombs, bullets etc are pretty much useless in a nuclear war....if you get rid of them war may be more likely and those factories can start pumping out more conventional weapons.

Reagan ENDED the Cold War.

:lol::lol::lol::smile:

Sorry...I always have to chuckle when people continue to spew out this myth.
 

AnnaG

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Anna, I am not a passionate fan of Ronnie reagan, but truth is truth.

Reagan proposed a complete removal of nuclear weapons with the USSR.....None.

Reagan negotiated a treaty that banned an entire class of nukes, the first time that had ever been done.

Reagan set the stage for Bush Sr. to sign a treaty radically cutting back on nukes.

SDI was a defensive shield, and the statement that Reagan "escalated nuclear armanent" is simply untrue.

Reagan ENDED the Cold War.
.... after he escalated it it carried on until the collapse of the USSR about '91. Reagan was gone in 89.
 

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Anna, I am not a passionate fan of Ronnie reagan, but truth is truth.

Reagan proposed a complete removal of nuclear weapons with the USSR.....None.

Reagan negotiated a treaty that banned an entire class of nukes, the first time that had ever been done.

Reagan set the stage for Bush Sr. to sign a treaty radically cutting back on nukes.

SDI was a defensive shield, and the statement that Reagan "escalated nuclear armanent" is simply untrue.

Reagan ENDED the Cold War.

Ronnie is the best pres they've had since Truman, even slightly ahead of Dwight. :smile:
 

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"Reagan started Conservatives on the decades long journey of borrow and spend. Since Republicans idolized Reagan and Reagan espoused borrow and spend, most of the Republican leaders have been following in his footsteps since then.
In my opinion, Reagan is not only responsible for the debt and deficit created by him, but also that created by Bush one and Bush two. Reagan made the debt and the deficit fashionable among conservatives."

And when Clinton fixed the deficit by creating a surplus, the Republicans condemned him for fixing their mess.

And they are counterbalanced by those who think the guy is some sort of messiah. The rational people are somewhere between.etc
etc

Point out to me, who specifically has called him messiah?
 

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"And when Clinton fixed the deficit........"

You mean when the Republican Congress during the Clinton Administration fixed the deficit.
 

EagleSmack

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"And when Clinton fixed the deficit........"

You mean when the Republican Congress during the Clinton Administration fixed the deficit.

Well the Pres gets the credit for anything that happens on his watch, and gets the critisism as well.
 

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I don't need to pick on Obama:

Mort Zuckerman: World Sees Obama as Incompetent and Amateur - US News and World Report

The rest of the world does it better than I ever could.

The rest of the world holds Obama in high regard, much more so than they did Bush (who was regarded as a kind of buffoon). USA's image abroad has improved considerably since Obama became the president.

Actually, long before that. I remember when Obama went to Germany as a candidate, he got the welcome fo a rock star. Obama haters were furious about that.
 

SirJosephPorter

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And when Clinton fixed the deficit by creating a surplus, the Republicans condemned him for fixing their mess.

I remember when Clinton got rid of the deficit, many conservatives wondered, what is the big deal? Most conservatives did not see anything wrong with 500 billion $ plus deficits. They became deficit hawks as soon as Obama came to power. And no doubt when they have a republican president again, conservatives will again wonder, what is so bad about the deficit?

There is none so blind as he who does not see.

Obviously, you did not bother to read the article.

Why should I bother to read the article? That is obviously the opinion of one columnist, who has no love lost for Obama.
 

YukonJack

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The Republican House of Representatives elected in 1994 got rid of the deficit, not because, but in spite of Clinton. Same as the welfare bill.

Unfortunately, politics corrupted them and in a very short time they were exactly like the useless pieces of crud they replaced. With the honourable exception of a few who had the integrity to do what the Founding Fathers envisioned: serve your term, serve the people who elected you and then return to your everyday life.

The scourge of decency and the reason of political rot is jerks who make politics a career.

"Why should I bother to read the article? That is obviously the opinion of one columnist, who has no love lost for Obama."

Like I said: There is none so blind as he who does not see. Or modified: He who is too stubburn and too obtuse to see.
 

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Move over global warming, BP disaster is here
The latest excuse to resume leftist agenda.

The left can't "hide the decline" in world temperatures for much longer. Knowing public faith in global warming is on the wane, President Obama was determined to adapt his message Tuesday night. The BP oil spill is now the reason to boost the subsidies to his friends who make windmills and solar panels. Mr. Obama expressed his support for legislation that "finally makes clean energy the profitable kind of energy for America's businesses."
Of course, that's because wind, solar and other inefficient forms of power generation will never be "profitable" without the hand of the federal government extracting money from the pockets of society's productive members for redistribution to those sporting the trendy "green" label - like BP, which in recent years rebranded itself as "Beyond Petroleum." Mr. Obama's speech to the nation swept aside the obvious objection that such subsidies might seem irresponsible in the face of a $13.1 trillion national debt. "We can't afford not to," was his response.
EDITORIAL: Move over global warming, BP disaster is here - Washington Times
 

AnnaG

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Move over global warming, BP disaster is here
The latest excuse to resume leftist agenda.

The left can't "hide the decline" in world temperatures for much longer. Knowing public faith in global warming is on the wane, President Obama was determined to adapt his message Tuesday night. The BP oil spill is now the reason to boost the subsidies to his friends who make windmills and solar panels. Mr. Obama expressed his support for legislation that "finally makes clean energy the profitable kind of energy for America's businesses."
Of course, that's because wind, solar and other inefficient forms of power generation will never be "profitable" without the hand of the federal government extracting money from the pockets of society's productive members for redistribution to those sporting the trendy "green" label - like BP, which in recent years rebranded itself as "Beyond Petroleum." Mr. Obama's speech to the nation swept aside the obvious objection that such subsidies might seem irresponsible in the face of a $13.1 trillion national debt. "We can't afford not to," was his response.
EDITORIAL: Move over global warming, BP disaster is here - Washington Times
What decline in world temperatures? The one's that are getting into winter (southern hemisphere)?
Alternative energy inefficient? That's a laugh. We spent about $7K going almost offgrid using a combination of hydro and solar. In two years it has paid for itself and now it pays for the little energy we get from the grid plus its own maintenance. Inefficient? roflmao
So much for editors' opinions. :roll: