Now USA is in Iraq or Afghanistan at the sufferance of those countries. If they ask USA to leave, they will leave. As to Germany, I assume there are there with the consent of German government.
Quit picking on Obama……
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Now USA is in Iraq or Afghanistan at the sufferance of those countries. If they ask USA to leave, they will leave. As to Germany, I assume there are there with the consent of German government.
Oh dear, as I do recall from back a few months you're attitude is as stagnant as ever (how ironic for a liberal activist on these forums). Dismiss articles on the pretense of anxious profiling. I could apply the same logic to every poster in this thread :roll:.
SirJosephPorter said:
LOL are you seriously going down this road again? After being so incessantly refuted how many times? We've been through how the Florida Supreme Court has issued numerous recounts for the 2000 election- bearing the only net result of more results for Bush. The Supreme Court did not do anything for Bush 43, the fact that he won the Florida State was clear as day. You know, this is just proof positive that speaking with a haughty democrat will get you no where when he'll just repeat himself like a broken record.
Hey, I call them as I see them, I don't care whom I am defending.
By all means, feel free to apply the same logic to every poster, not only in this thread, but in the entire forum. There is noting wrong with that. When it is well known that a columnist or a journalist has a well known bias to the right or the left, why should anybody give any credence to what he is saying about politics? We know what he is going to say about any issue without the bother of reading what he is saying.
It is a forgone conclusion that a right wing columnist is going to trash Obama every chance he gets and is going to praise Republican politicians to high Heaven every chance he gets (and a left wing columnist would do it in reverse).
Florida Supreme Court was handling the issue according to Florida laws. All the Republican justices on the US Supreme Court had been bleating about states’ rights all these years. Being a conservative meant supporting state rights.
However, all this conservative philosophy went straight out the window when it came to rescuing their friend, Bush. Then these same Republican justices had no problem at all trampling all over state rights, the rights of Florida.
If these Republicans, Scalia, Thomas and others had remained true to their conservative principles, they would not have interfered with the process underway in Florida. But their aim was to award the presidency to a fellow Republican and in doing that they trampled on their own philosophy, state rights.
It was easily the most shameful episode in the history of the Supreme Court which will be remembered for a long time.
No, being a Republican means you should be a supporter of states rights. The final count in Florida showed that Bush had won the state, so the court decision was right.
United States presidential election in Florida, 2000 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
United States presidential election in Florida, 2000 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"When it is well known that a columnist or a journalist has a well known bias to the right or the left, why should anybody give any credence to what he is saying about politics? We know what he is going to say about any issue without the bother of reading what he is saying".
There is an old saying that obviously has no meaning for good old SirJosephPorter: "Even a blind pig can find an acorn". Or "Even a stupid farmer can grow big potatoes".
Dismissing an article based on nothing but who wrote it or where it has been published - without reading it - is the highest form of ignorance.
There is an old saying that obviously has no meaning for good old SirJosephPorter: "Even a blind pig can find an acorn". Or "Even a stupid farmer can grow big potatoes".
Dismissing an article based on nothing but who wrote it or where it has been published - without reading it - is the highest form of ignorance.
Final count was still going on in florida when US Supreme Court ordered Florida to stop the recount and awarded the presidency to their buddy, Bush.
Nothing of the sort, it is only common sense. Let us take the example of your hero, Limbaugh. Do we really have to listen to him to figure out what he is going to say about any issue? No way, he is going to blame Obama for each and every issue, no matter what.
Same thing can really be said about any far right columnist, the columnists that some conservatives here quote as Gospel truth. Larry Elder, Dr, Sewell, Anne Coulter etc. Why should I waste my time reading articles by them when I already know what they are going to say on any issue?
"Why should I waste my time reading articles by them when I already know what they are going to say on any issue?"
Just because you wasted a large portion of your life being blind, obstinate, stubburn and obtuse, there is no reason you should not see both sides and get some REAL education.
If any right minded person should follow your myopic world view, you could and should be dismissed as worthless, because if anyone is totally predictable, it is you.
Just because you wasted a large portion of your life being blind, obstinate, stubburn and obtuse, there is no reason you should not see both sides and get some REAL education.
If any right minded person should follow your myopic world view, you could and should be dismissed as worthless, because if anyone is totally predictable, it is you.
Again, why should i read anything written by a right wing extremist? And where does it stop? Do you read the material written by the Communist Party of Canada or Communist Party of USA? How about the Nazi party? Do you read their literature? If not, why not? You should get all the viewpoints, you know. If you don't read Nazi, KKK or Communist literature, you will miss out on their viewpoint.
If you are OK to miss out on what Communist or Nazi parties are saying, I am OK with missing what the right wing extremists like Limbaugh or Coulter are saying.
"Do you read the material written by the Communist Party of Canada or Communist Party of USA? How about the Nazi party? Do you read their literature? If not, why not? You should get all the viewpoints, you know. If you don't read Nazi, KKK or Communist literature, you will miss out on their viewpoint."
I must confess, I do not read publications by the KKK or the Nazi Party or the Communist Party. But I DO read articles by authors who are slobbering slaves to the Left. I watch MSNBC. I read articles by columnists on Washington Post, New York Times, Salon, Times, Newsweek and Huffington Post. After all only an idiot would refuse to know where the 'enemy' stands.
You seem to be proud of your ignorance and your ignorant views.
I must confess, I do not read publications by the KKK or the Nazi Party or the Communist Party. But I DO read articles by authors who are slobbering slaves to the Left. I watch MSNBC. I read articles by columnists on Washington Post, New York Times, Salon, Times, Newsweek and Huffington Post. After all only an idiot would refuse to know where the 'enemy' stands.
You seem to be proud of your ignorance and your ignorant views.
Yes, but when all the votes were in and tallied up Bush still won by a handful of votes, nothing would have changed..
Here is a poll that is sure to be a conundrum for the self-confessed ignoramuses who refuse to see and/or read anything that disagrees with their own misguided prejudices.
Confidence Waning in Obama, U.S. Outlook - WSJ.com
A poll conducted by such divergent entities as Wall Street Journal and NBC?
How can it have any credibility?
Confidence Waning in Obama, U.S. Outlook - WSJ.com
A poll conducted by such divergent entities as Wall Street Journal and NBC?
How can it have any credibility?
No problem, Y.J.- give it a month and he'll be back in everyone's favour. :smile:
"No problem, Y.J.- give it a month and he'll be back in everyone's favour."
Of course, if, in a month
the unemployment rate is down to a reasonable rate,
the gushing hole in the Gulf is plugged,
he earns the respect of the military who conduct the war in Iraq and Afganistan,
he attends the business of the country rather than concerts and golf games,
the general population comes out of the coma they fell in November 2008.
Of course, if, in a month
the unemployment rate is down to a reasonable rate,
the gushing hole in the Gulf is plugged,
he earns the respect of the military who conduct the war in Iraq and Afganistan,
he attends the business of the country rather than concerts and golf games,
the general population comes out of the coma they fell in November 2008.
How many jobs would you expect him to create?
Is it his job to put on a wet suit and go down there to plug the hole?
How many soldiers overseas disrespect him?
Is the president not allowed any time off for relaxation? Did Ike, Nixon, Reagan and Bush not play the odd game of golf?
I guess I must have missed the news flash about the widespread coma! :smile::smile:
I do scan the far right websites such as WND or TownHall from time to time, to get the sense of what they are saying. But as to reading individual articles, that is just a waste of time.
So you also draw the line somewhere, same as me. It is just that you draw the line at Communist Part,y Nazi Party etc., I draw the line at extreme right. It is just a difference in degree, not in kind. Who is to say that your line is correct and mine isn't?
Besides, I don't have to read their articles to know where extremists such as Anne Coulter or Larry Elder stand, that is obvious without reading their articles.
We don’t know that, do we? If after the recount was done and Bush still had won, I assume Florida Supreme Court itself would have declared him to be the winner in Florida. And if after the recount (and supposed Bush win) the Florida Supreme court still had refused to certify Bush as the winner, then USSC would have been justified to get involved.
As it was, the Republicans on the USSC exposed themselves as hypocrites, when they trampled all over the rights of Florida.
Hydrogen Barackside
King's Right Site: Hydrogen Barackside
This cartoon originated nearly 3 months ago in Scotland .
It looks like much of the world is laughing at our nation's leadership.
King's Right Site: Hydrogen Barackside
This cartoon originated nearly 3 months ago in Scotland .
It looks like much of the world is laughing at our nation's leadership.
No doubt the right is laughing at Obama, they probably also considered Bush to be the greatest president ever. So what else is new?
