Pope visits Africa, reaffirms ban on condoms

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The entire reproductive policies of the Vatican is a joke. They disapprove of artificial insemination, yet the immaculate conception was the most artifical of all time.
 

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The entire reproductive policies of the Vatican is a joke. They disapprove of artificial insemination, yet the immaculate conception was the most artifical of all time.

They frown on incest.... Don't Adam and Eve's grandkids or those of Noah and the missus sorta blow that one all to purgatory?
 

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Pat Condell asked, "Is it a greater sin to bugger a young boy with or without a condom?" That about sums up catholicism for me.
 

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Seriously


Please explain one situation in which one would be better off using Condoms than following the advice of the pope.

There is no concievable (ba dum ching) time when the popes advice is a worse idea than promoting condoms.


Condoms are only helpful if you are already ignoring the pope. And if you are already ignoring the pope about extramarital sex, you aren't going to suddently pay attention to him because he said no condoms.


Besides, you want effective means about birth control, just think about the pope when you are trying to get it on, that'll kill any mojo.
 

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Situation #1
A married couple. The husband is HIV positive. Condom provides protection to wife!
 
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karrie

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Situation #1
A married couple. The husband is HIV positive. Condom provides protect to wife!


Again, he likely got HIV because he was having sex, right? And obviously not with his wife. Of course condoms would protect her, and if he's going to break the tenets of his faith to have sex with someone who's not his wife, then it shouldn't be a stretch to break one more to protect her from infection. It's pretty simple. Either follow the rules, or bend them. But if you bend one, then it often means you need to bend others. That's why God gave us free thinking brains.
 

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A married couple. The husband is HIV positive. Condom provides protect to wife!

And the church doesn't ban condom use in all cases, though it reminds people that isn't a long term solution as condoms are not 100% effective and she will still eventually get HIV.

One might ask how he got HIV following the popes advice?


Catholics point out that if a couple, one of whom had the virus, consistently used a condom they would reduce the yearly risk of passing it on to the uninfected partner by about 87% - which they say falls well short of an adequate means of disease prevention.

Uganda used a policy combining abstinence, fidelity and - only if necessary - the use of condoms, to achieve a significant reduction in the spread of HIV.
Even some senior Roman Catholics take a pragmatic view of the use of condoms.
The Belgian Cardinal Goddfried Daneels said in 2004 that using a condom with the intention of stopping disease was morally different from using one to prevent the creation of life.
He said condoms could be the lesser of the two evils. Father Gerry O'Collins, Emeritus Professor at the Gregorian University in Rome, said the commandment 'thou shalt not kill', "trumps other issues".
 

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And the church doesn't ban condom use in all cases, though it reminds people that isn't a long term solution as condoms are not 100% effective and she will still eventually get HIV.

One might ask how he got HIV following the popes advice?

The husband didn't follow Benny's advice. But, that doesn't mean the wife should die from his pecker!
 

karrie

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The husband didn't follow Benny's advice. But, that doesn't mean the wife should die from his pecker!
The point spade is that if he was free thinking enough to disobey and have premarital or adulterous sex, then he should be free thinking enough to use a condom. The pope shouldn't have to change HIS position just because people are being morons about how they cherry pick through the rules.

If you're going to have sex outside of a monogamous marriage, use condoms!!

If you're going to choose instead to listen to the pope, then for crying out loud, listen to the whole thing.
 

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I have found that those who profess to adhere to restrictive religious beliefs are more likely to break the rules of their belief system than those who don't profess a belief system. So, why bother with religion in the first place unless you are trying to hide your perversion behind the mask of religion.

Many pedophiles hide in religion. Catholic priests come to mind. I would hope that pope Benny wears a condom when he is strapping on a alter boy.
 

karrie

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I have found that those who profess to adhere to restrictive religious beliefs are more likely to break the rules of their belief system than those who don't profess a belief system. So, why bother with religion in the first place unless you are trying to hide your perversion behind the mask of religion.

Many pedophiles hide in religion. Catholic priests come to mind. I would hope that pope Benny wears a condom when he is strapping on a alter boy.

on that note child, there's no point in being in this conversation. It's so nice to see how enlightened, non-judgmental, and just generally 'better' you atheists are than everyone else. What a relief to see that mockery and moral superiority aren't just the hallmarks of religious zealots, but non-religious too.
 

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(CNN) -- Pope Benedict XVI refused Wednesday to soften the Vatican's ban on
condom use as he arrived in Africa for his first visit to the continent as pope......
Source: Pope visits Africa, reaffirms ban on condoms - CNN.com
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I think the pope's mind needs to join the REAL world and quit living in MJ's Neverland. There's no population problem in Africa; no big gap in the food/person ratio. :roll:
 

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I have found that those who profess to adhere to restrictive religious beliefs are more likely to break the rules of their belief system than those who don't profess a belief system. So, why bother with religion in the first place unless you are trying to hide your perversion behind the mask of religion.

Many pedophiles hide in religion. Catholic priests come to mind. I would hope that pope Benny wears a condom when he is strapping on a alter boy.
Got any stats for this? Any evidence? Any research at all?