Hey Lone,
You be a spring chicken. I was 13 and just discovering the joys of high school, women, Rock & Roll and masturbation.
Poll:- life better now or in 1959?
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You be a spring chicken. I was 13 and just discovering the joys of high school, women, Rock & Roll and masturbation.
My brother is a (now retired) Chartered Accountant. Never having been married, he has a few "toys"...like a motorhome, a truck, a car, a tractor...well, lots of vehicles. He buys either new or "creampuff" used, maintains the hell out of them, and keeps them for a looong time. In other words, he's following what you said up above. It must be true that great minds think alike!
A friend of mine is a car salesman, and he told me I had the right idea - I buy a good quality 1 or 2 year old used car, and keep running it until it becomes unreliable. That's the way to keep your cost of ownership low, and we typically keep a car to the 7 to 10 year range.
Mind you, since we tend to buy either Toyotas or Subarus, we're starting with high quality anyway.
Mind you, since we tend to buy either Toyotas or Subarus, we're starting with high quality anyway.
There you go...the formula must be fairly accurate. My brother tried to explain it to me in formal financial terms (net present value and other such mysterious words) but as usual, I made him tell me the bottom line and please "don't confuse me with the facts!" :lol:
Hey TenPenny...you must like high quality cars. I used to frequent car plants in my former life, and I've been in most of them in North America and Japan. No offence to buyers of the old Big 3 (I drive an Olds) but let me tell you, there is a world of difference between how they're built here vs. over there. They take quality pretty seriously over there, but "bottom line first" was always the rule of thumb here. I think it's getting better now...
If I had to buy a new car today and wanted the best value for the buck, I'd buy a Kia or Hyundai. Why? Those guys were all trained by Japanese engineers and build stuff the same way the Japanese do - They crank out a hell of a product now, and they're a great price deal.
What end of the country do you think I live in ??
I realize your family Doctor needs to send you to a specialist but once in you need not his referral to keep going back..
You bet, people who think as I do tend to have great minds........:lol::lol::lol::lol:
The brick sh|thouse would lose. After all the abuse I put that thing through, I only ever managed to knock about 3 or 4" off the end of the front bumper. The fuel mileage was something like 27 MPG, but the thing only went up to about 47 MPH. lol I could carry anything I could fit in and on top of it. Wish I had never gotten rid of it. Bought it in 1969 or 70 for $700. Could change sparkplugs in about 8 minutes. Re & re the carb in about 15 or 20 minutes. Change starter or any other appendage under the hood in about 10. Thing was built like a titanium hockeypuck.
That's what seems to work around here, too. The maintenance is the biggest factor. Keeping it in a carport or garage when not in use is good, too.
There isn't very much difference in vehicles these days mechanically speaking. Most of the differences is in the aesthetics and safety factors.
My guess would be the lower mainland.
You're in a different Health Authority area and the Authorities vary. Ours sucks. If you don't have to travel halfway across the province for something, you have to wait a long time for it, unless you are in danger of dying. In that case, you only have to go for a couple or 3 hours till you get to a facility that can deal with whatever thing is bugging you.Yep.
She's right though. The gov't is the one that keeps track of stuff like waiting list stats and the news people get it from them and blab it to us. I think the feds have a page with the links to the different territories' and provinces' waiting list stats.
Quite so, Wulfie. I am simply stating what I do. When it comes to cars, I am ‘car illiterate’. All I do is maintenance (and I don’t do that myself, I take it to the dealership).
Anyway, after about seven years, you don’t know when something might go wrong, so I prefer to get a new car.
Why? In fact, I would argue the other way. If somebody had been say 18 years or older in 1959, his opinion probably would be tainted by his personal experience, his anecdotal experience, by what he remembers (and his memory is very likely to be foggy, imperfect after 50 years).
On the other hand, somebody who was not born then or was just a little kid (I was 9 years old in 1959) will make use of objective, statistical evidence, and his opinion is likely to be more objective.
I just happened upon some real wisdom in Wikkapedia while reading what they had to say about "consumerism"- I think the follow exerp hits the nail right on the head in indicating just what a sick society we've become.
"Consumerism in the 21st century
Beginning in the 1990s, the most frequent reason given for attending college had changed to making a lot of money, outranking reasons such as becoming an authority in a field or helping others in difficulty. This statement directly correlates with the rise of materialism, specifically the technological aspect. At this time compact disc players, digital media, personal computers, and cellular telephones all began to integrate into the affluent American’s everyday lifestyle. Madeline Levine criticized what she saw as a large change in American culture – “a shift away from values of community, spirituality, and integrity, and toward competition, materialism and disconnection.” [14]
Businesses have realized that wealthy consumers are the most attractive targets for marketing their products. The upper class' tastes, lifestyles, and preferences trickle down to become the standard which all consumers seek to emulate. The not so wealthy consumers can “purchase something new that will speak of their place in the tradition of affluence” [15]. A consumer can have the instant gratification of purchasing an expensive item that will help improve their social status.
Emulation is also a core component of 21st century consumerism. As a general trend, regular consumers seek to emulate those who are above them in the social hierarchy. The poor strive to imitate the wealthy and the wealthy imitate celebrities and other icons. The celebrity endorsement of products can be seen as evidence of the desire of modern consumers to purchase products partly or solely to emulate people of higher social status. This purchasing behavior may co-exist in the mind of a consumer with an image of oneself as being an individualist."
"Consumerism in the 21st century
Beginning in the 1990s, the most frequent reason given for attending college had changed to making a lot of money, outranking reasons such as becoming an authority in a field or helping others in difficulty. This statement directly correlates with the rise of materialism, specifically the technological aspect. At this time compact disc players, digital media, personal computers, and cellular telephones all began to integrate into the affluent American’s everyday lifestyle. Madeline Levine criticized what she saw as a large change in American culture – “a shift away from values of community, spirituality, and integrity, and toward competition, materialism and disconnection.” [14]
Businesses have realized that wealthy consumers are the most attractive targets for marketing their products. The upper class' tastes, lifestyles, and preferences trickle down to become the standard which all consumers seek to emulate. The not so wealthy consumers can “purchase something new that will speak of their place in the tradition of affluence” [15]. A consumer can have the instant gratification of purchasing an expensive item that will help improve their social status.
Emulation is also a core component of 21st century consumerism. As a general trend, regular consumers seek to emulate those who are above them in the social hierarchy. The poor strive to imitate the wealthy and the wealthy imitate celebrities and other icons. The celebrity endorsement of products can be seen as evidence of the desire of modern consumers to purchase products partly or solely to emulate people of higher social status. This purchasing behavior may co-exist in the mind of a consumer with an image of oneself as being an individualist."
We would be outside enjoying our friends with not a care in the world. Creating all the great and wonderful things we now have today. Question are the newbie's still having fun and creating or has imagination been regulated to the few.
Shift in values? Certainly. But I don’t think there is anything wrong with that. I think the current values are actually better than the old values. Values like tolerance, multiculturalism, respect for all the different viewpoints, different worldviews, equal rights for minorities.
That is much better than the old fashioned values of courtesy, chivalry, calling women ‘ma’am’, putting women on a pedestal etc. while denying all kinds of rights, opportunities to minorities (women, blacks, gays etc.), having no respect for any religion except Christianity etc.
If by that you mean creating in the scientific and technological sense, such creativity is at an all time high. As I mentioned before, I remember reading somewhere that the total available knowledge is doubling every ten years or so.
Joe ... do you live in a bottle or a lighthouse or some other remote place where you haven't beamed back to Earth in the last half century?
"Tolerance" is a neutral value- more important is what we are tolerant of.
Tolerance is not a neutral value, it is essential in a pluralistic society. And we must be tolerant of every opinion, every worldview. That doesn’t mean that we have to agree with every worldview.
However, everybody is entitled to equal hearing, and nobody deserves to be demeaned as a human being for the views they hold. That is what is meant by tolerance.