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Zipperfish

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Man... wake up...if you had the same water heated in a straight sided tube instead of up a tiny straw you wouldn't even be able to see the expansion ....it's trickery same as those graphs that zoom on a small percentage instead of showing the whole!

"If you had the same water heated in a staright sided tube instead of up a tiny straw"? A straw is a straight-sided tube. Listen to yerself for Chrissake.
 

petros

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Zippy, why is pulling out of a cold rut going to ruin everything? Did everybody die when it was much warmer in our recent past?
 

Zipperfish

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Zippy, why is pulling out of a cold rut going to ruin everything? Did everybody die when it was much warmer in our recent past?

You seem to be mistaking me for an alarmist. My claims are not that global warming is going to "ruin everything." My claim (in the last few pages) was that warming water expands. A prior claim was that carbon dioxide absorbs and radiates energy in the infrared. Not exactly alarming stuff. Fairly self-evident, I'd have thought. Apparently not. :lol:
 

DaSleeper

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"If you had the same water heated in a staright sided tube instead of up a tiny straw"? A straw is a straight-sided tube. Listen to yerself for Chrissake.
You have no common sense..
If you have a 3 inch diameter tube of water being heated up going into a one eight inch straw....the expansion up that straw is proportionate to the change in diameter and not the same as you would see if the expansion stayed in the 3 inch tube..
If you can't understand that...........you're hopeless

It's how a mercury thermometer works...
 

petros

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You seem to be mistaking me for an alarmist. My claims are not that global warming is going to "ruin everything." My claim (in the last few pages) was that warming water expands. A prior claim was that carbon dioxide absorbs and radiates energy in the infrared. Not exactly alarming stuff. Fairly self-evident, I'd have thought. Apparently not. :lol:

So what is there to worry about other than the unelected dictatorship based out of NY selling doomsday?
 

Zipperfish

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You have no common sense..
If you have a 3 inch diameter tube of water being heated up going into a one eight inch straw....the expansion up that straw is proportionate to the change in diameter and not the same as you would see if the expansion stayed in the 3 inch tube..
If you can't understand that...........you're hopeless

I understand that. I just don't understand why you would say that straw isn't a straight-sided tube.

It's how a mercury thermometer works...

According to you, a mercury thermometer doesn't work. It's--what did you call it?--"trickery."

So what is there to worry about other than the unelected dictatorship based out of NY selling doomsday?
Unelected dictatorship? And you call me the alarmist.
 

petros

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You have no common sense..
If you have a 3 inch diameter tube of water being heated up going into a one eight inch straw....the expansion up that straw is proportionate to the change in diameter and not the same as you would see if the expansion stayed in the 3 inch tube..
If you can't understand that...........you're hopeless

I didn't watch but I'm assuming the used a graduated tube in a stopper inserted in an ehrlenmeyer?

I have one here and graduated cyclunders, I'll do both side by side on video. The small tube is to make it more dramatic for school kids but we'll try it.
 

darkbeaver

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Global depression is a sound ecological approach to solve this CO2 problem. As the depression deepens the world will be able to meet it's commitments to lower CO2 emissions due to the drastic reduction in productivity by plant closures.

Does the mercury expand or is it drawn up the tube by some other mechanism? Gravity perhaps.
 

Zipperfish

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Global depression is a sound ecological approach to solve this CO2 problem. As the depression deepens the world will be able to meet it's commitments to lower CO2 emissions due to the drastic reduction in productivity by plant closures.

Does the mercury expand or is it drawn up the tube by some other mechanism? Gravity perhaps.

Capillary motion can draw a fluid up a thin tube. Has to be pretty thin though.
 

DaSleeper

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I understand that. I just don't understand why you would say that straw isn't a straight-sided tube.



According to you, a mercury thermometer doesn't work. It's--what did you call it?--"trickery."

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You're either a moron or deflecting and twisting my words around.....my bet is on moron
 

taxslave

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Global depression is a sound ecological approach to solve this CO2 problem. As the depression deepens the world will be able to meet it's commitments to lower CO2 emissions due to the drastic reduction in productivity by plant closures.

Does the mercury expand or is it drawn up the tube by some other mechanism? Gravity perhaps.

Do you have a sound ecological approach to solve the problem of mass bankruptcies, riots in the streets and lack of food brought on by destroying the financial system?
 

darkbeaver

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Do you have a sound ecological approach to solve the problem of mass bankruptcies, riots in the streets and lack of food brought on by destroying the financial system?


Yes we call it "the free market" . Something that does not now exist since it's murder by central banks. You don't don't like fresh air or polar bears do you?
And in case you're wondering who is destroying the global financial system I will tell you, it is the global financial system.
 

taxslave

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Yes we call it "the free market" . Something that does not now exist since it's murder by central banks. You don't don't like fresh air or polar bears do you?
And in case you're wondering who is destroying the global financial system I will tell you, it is the global financial system.

THe air is fresh where I live and the polar bears would do just fine if left alone. Of far more concern is the influx in sea lions that are eating too much fish here.
 

JLM

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Well, if you take the average depth of the ocean, say 5000 m, and you heated it up a little bit, say so the density decreased from 1000 kg/m3 to, say, 999.99 kg/m3, you would raise the sea level by 50 mm. It doesn't take much, given the volumes involved.


It's a moot question anyway- to even heat the entire ocean by 0.1C you'd use up all the oxygen in the atmosphere and another thing it doesn't matter how much you heat it or cool it the water on the ocean floor will always be 4 degrees C.

You don't know that water is heavy??


About 10 lbs. to the gallon or 62 lbs per cubic ft.:)
 

DaSleeper

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Capillary motion can draw a fluid up a thin tube. Has to be pretty thin though.
Since you're the expert on capillary action explain this one to me...
In both my car and my snow blower....if I have synthetic oil, if I check the oil in the morning after the engine has been off overnight the oil shows about one inch or more overfull...I wipe the dip stick and check it again it's right on the mark
some type of Capillary action ...right?
Why doesn't it do that with standard 5 - 30 motor oil??
 

Zipperfish

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Since you're the expert on capillary action explain this one to me...
In both my car and my snow blower....if I have synthetic oil, if I check the oil in the morning after the engine has been off overnight the oil shows about one inch or more overfull...I wipe the dip stick and check it again it's right on the mark
some type of Capillary action ...right?
Why doesn't it do that with standard 5 - 30 motor oil??

I'm not an expert in capilary motion. That's interesting though. Have you figured out what it is? Better question--can I put regular (5W30) in my motor after I've put in synthetic? Someone tld me I shouldn't do that.

It's a moot question anyway- to even heat the entire ocean by 0.1C you'd use up all the oxygen in the atmosphere and another thing it doesn't matter how much you heat it or cool it the water on the ocean floor will always be 4 degrees C.

Yes I think that's true because 4 deg C is the most dense that H20 gets. I don't understand what you mean about higher temperatures sucking oxygen out of the atmosphere though. How does that work?