universe=one, the one, God is one., the whole. It. There's a long list of boring details and charts, but I'm pressed for time this evening.
We live in God. hahahahahahah
We live in God. hahahahahahah
“Origin of the Universe Riddle Solved- and,er, It Wasn’t God”
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How do you know God is one the early Hebrews were polytheists . In Genesis it says let "us" make man in "our " image. Maybe god is many how do you know god is one?
Omnipotence (from Latin: Omni Potens: "all power") is the ability to be almighty in every sense and aspect. The user can achieve and do absolutely anything without any limit or condition, including the conceptually impossible and logically impossible, like "bigger than infinity" or ""making squared circle".
The commandment about having "no other gods before me" does suggest there *were* other gods in the pantheon and the old boy was just insisting on being top gun.
That is understandable as the only 'truth' would end up being that salvation is universal for all flesh so a book or many books has nothing at all to do with a person having a life in the new earth verses. There is nothing that can be done to prevent it, publishing books that point to that is 'bad if you want to keep selling an endless number of books'.
The 'sons of God' from Ge:6 are the fallen angels from the Book of Jude so they would be considered to be 'gods' to mankind when we accept almost anybody who is stronger or smarter as being gods. The Bankers desire that title as it makes them immune from retribution if they do a ****ty job.
The Beast from the Pit is a fallen angel that was on the earth at the time of Noah's flood, it will be back as will 4 other fallen ones that can manifest into an army of 200 M literal horsemen. The Bible doesn't say a whole lot about them but they are 'wise' and 'powerful' so they are the 'bosses' when it comes to angelic beings and earthly beings.
Perhaps it is the 'potter' explaining to the 'clay' that calling themselves 'potters' doesn't make them one. God and the Holy Spirit and Christ are 3 beings from the '3rd heaven', that makes them as different in strength and wisdom over angelic beings as angels are over us.
Sorry I glommed onto "Falsifiable." I was unable to see how info could be falsifiable re gravity.
Seems more plausible that there is a meta-verse then a god of infinite power...
The universe we live in may not be the only one out there. In fact, our universe could be just one of an infinite number of universes making up a "multiverse."
Though the concept may stretch credulity, there's good physics behind it. And there's not just one way to get to a multiverse — numerous physics theories independently point to such a conclusion. In fact, some experts think the existence of hidden universes is more likely than not.
- See more at: Top 5 Reasons We Might Live in a Multiverse | Hidden Universes
Just because the truth comes past a person occasionally that doesn't mean they will recognize it as such. The Bible sets the bar for who is the one that has full authority over all things, that would be the 'God' of Ge:1:1.
2Co:12:2:
I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago,
(whether in the body,
I cannot tell;
or whether out of the body,
I cannot tell: God knoweth
such an one caught up to the third heaven.
Re:20:11:
And I saw a great white throne,
and him that sat on it,
from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away;
and there was found no place for them.1Jo:5:7:
For there are three that bear record in heaven,
the Father,
the Word,
and the Holy Ghost:
and these three are one.Heb:12:22:
But ye are come unto mount Sion,
and unto the city of the living God,
the heavenly Jerusalem,
and to an innumerable company of angels,
Heb:12:23:
To the general assembly and church of the firstborn,
which are written in heaven,
and to God the Judge of all,
and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
The above is a pretty good indication of where God resides and that is one level above where angelic beings would have met to talk about Job (and other things). Angelic beings enter that 3rd heaven as that is the new heaven that 2/3 of them will enter at the same time the Great White Throne event takes place.
Job:1:6:
Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD,
and Satan came also among them.
Job:1:7:
And the LORD said unto Satan,
Whence comest thou?
Then Satan answered the LORD,
and said,
From going to and fro in the earth,
and from walking up and down in it.
For the record, it isn't me that has trouble admitting when I have something in error and new facts show that is so. So far you haven't shown any alternatives to put my theory into the 'error' realm.
Joh:18:36:
Jesus answered,
My kingdom is not of this world:
if my kingdom were of this world,
then would my servants fight,
that I should not be delivered to the Jews:
but now is my kingdom not from hence.
Re:11:15:
And the seventh angel sounded;
and there were great voices in heaven,
saying,
The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord,
and of his Christ;
and he shall reign for ever and ever.
MHz Quoting Job is not a good idea. In that book God and the Angel Lucifer or Satan as he is called these days, had a bet that humans (were stupid and faithful enough) that Satan could not corrupt Job away from God.
In other words God took everything away from Job and still Job continued to believe in God. He took his wives, children, livestock, visited horrible diseases on Job and Job, according to that book, continued to believe in a just and decent God. Not a shred of pity shown. When finally Lucifer/Satan conceded that some humans were more brain dead then he supposed, God restored some of what was taken away. New wives and children and gave him back his cattle and wealth. I always wonder why the previous wives and children were never restored. Guess even God has limits.
That book is a fable for dimwits and an excellent reason to remember that the bible has caused more harm than good to humanity. Most Christians take what is possible to accept as reasonable from it. Unfortunately, now we are faced with the Koran and it's equally warped opinions. It should be made law that no person should be allowed to preach any sort of "belief" to anyone under 21 years of age on pain of life imprisonment.
In other words God took everything away from Job and still Job continued to believe in God. He took his wives, children, livestock, visited horrible diseases on Job and Job, according to that book, continued to believe in a just and decent God. Not a shred of pity shown. When finally Lucifer/Satan conceded that some humans were more brain dead then he supposed, God restored some of what was taken away. New wives and children and gave him back his cattle and wealth. I always wonder why the previous wives and children were never restored. Guess even God has limits.
That book is a fable for dimwits and an excellent reason to remember that the bible has caused more harm than good to humanity. Most Christians take what is possible to accept as reasonable from it. Unfortunately, now we are faced with the Koran and it's equally warped opinions. It should be made law that no person should be allowed to preach any sort of "belief" to anyone under 21 years of age on pain of life imprisonment.
At this rate you could inspire a reply that could fill a book in just a few posts. The actual mission was that Job would curse God rather than just pile praise on him. Job never cursed God as he would have known it was not God taking those things away that He had given to Job as a reward for being a 'fair man'. The story also has meaning for the time the 5th and 6th trumps exist as that is when Satan is just as powerful in the affairs of people. The authority to send 1/3 of the living to the grave is part of that and a prophecy exists that Satan can temp believers for a few days and then do nothing more (I assume). Satan has the ability to give rewards to those that worship him rather than God but they end up being things that cannot interact with you and protect you from harm. The temptations he offered Jesus would be the rewards that Satan, as king of the earth, could offer. Money to be part of the 'elite' seems to be the card he plays most often. Food (necessities of life in abundance) authority over other men and protection from physical injuries (but not old-age) are what he tempted Jesus with and the mark of the Beast includes the right to run a business as a means of getting wealthy (middle-man).
Satan took the things away and it was God who put the limits on what damage Satan could do. Damage because the flaw in angelic beings is the part God gave to men that made it possible for them to have dominion over somebody else and have it turn out to be a good thing every time. Satan would also have been behind the design before the flood to exterminate 5 fingered people because when they were gone there would be no seed of Eve to fulfill any part of Ge:3:15. Job believed that God was not behind the events that were clear punishments, when he tried to explain to his friends who God was he was chastised by God for attempting to do things that were beyond his ability, such as explain who God is and what sort of powers he can manifest to help or hurt a person.
What Job ended up with before he died is something he will have again after he goes to the grave so he would be expecting both groups to be there down to live-stalk when the sleep of death was lifted from all of them.
Which would mean he did not believe that God was behind the 'misfortunes'.
Emotions are the driving force that allowed Adam to be a perfect shepherd to the flesh he was given dominion over. In the fiery lake Satan and the other fallen angels will experience thirst, hunger and sorrow, welcome to emotional fallen angels if you can picture that.
The people singled out in Scripture that end up having something bad happen to them as a sign to others are given extra rewards for enduring more than the average person. Moses and Pharaoh and his first born will be around for the 1,000 year reign as an example.
By 'some' you mean 2x right?
When a person is brought back from the grave they cannot go back to the grave as that would be the fiery lake rather than the sleep Job:14 promotes.
What is the moral of the story then? Has anybody escaped death? Does it reinforce that the land of the 'real enemy' is death rather than various tribulation that are part of an imperfect earth?
Make it 30 (45 in my case) and I would agree with you, even then there is the right message and a flawed version.
So? Did they prove god exists?
They will. Scientifically. You know, as apposed to faithfully.
Don't you mean gods exist? Given the incredibly large number of gods that people have believed in, you'd think by now we'd have found at least one hiding somewhere...
Can't say that I understand anything about that theory, but I can say that I expect the real truth about the universe may be even more incredible than any theory.
I expect you'll be proven right. I think it was J.B.S. Haldane who said the universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we CAN suppose. (That was in a time when queer just meant strange.) What science has learned about reality so far, in terms of grandeur and complexity and sheer awesomeness, is way beyond what any religiously derived cosmology ever imagined, and in fact has shown them all to be egregiously wrong. And I think we're just getting started at figuring it all out.
You really like to make up your own history don't you? Atheist beliefs are the biggest causes of war? Looks like you missed about 5000 plus years of human history. Atheism is relatively recent, going back only about 200 years at the most. And just in case you missed it, the mass murderers you listed did not kill a single person in the name of atheism. Instead they substituted their own pseudo-religions like communism and fascism. In fact not a single one of those listed stated that they were motivated by atheism, which pretty much says that your entire post is rubbish.
And now that we've gotten that out of the way please tell me how many of those listed below were atheists.
Attila the Hun
Julius Caesar
Alexander the Great
Sargon
Ashurbanipal
Genghis Khan
Napoleon
Kaiser Wilhelm II
Tamerlane
Cyrus the Great
I could make the list much longer - in fact I could list hundreds of historical mass murderers who outdid the people on your list, many of them shouting the names of their gods as they murdered.
A war does not have to be classified as religious in order for religion to be a major motive. For example were Cortes' destruction of the Aztec Empire and Pizarro's conquest of the Incas religious in nature? Possibly not, but both of those mass murderers believed that their god gave them the right to kill anyone who was not a Christian. Just for the record the Spanish conquests in the Americas probably resulted in the deaths of 90% of the indigenous population. I suspect that if you check the attitudes of all great conquerors of the past all of them thought that their religion gave them the right to kill anyone who did not share their beliefs.
Glad some thinking person made that point. Unfortunately it'll be lost on those who don't think.
Now you're stretching it, you're suggesting for example Napoleon started his wars because God told him to? Sure he may have been religious but to extrapolate that's the reason he went to war is pushing the envelope of historical facts.
You miss the point entirely. It was that those people were not atheists, there was no such suggestion as you're indicating.