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JLM

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It amazes me that Liberals who bring these refugees to Canada, to a stange new land, no education and not their native language would think these refugees will be happy, no questions asked.. I mean it's Canada, why not?

Working minimum wage, in most cases, hard work and treated badly.

I pick up loads all over Montreal and talk to New Canadians every day.. some happy, some hate it here.. "So why do they stay?"

I think if you are warm, dry and well fed you can overlook a lot of petty inconveniences! Our minimum wage would be a vast fortune to the third world or the M.E.:)
 

B00Mer

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It's amusing how some people think being against mass immigration simply for the sake of having mass immigration means you're anti-immigrant or a racist.

Thank you, because I'm not against immigration, I'm just against immigrating people from a region in the world that exports terrorists..

Here is a perfect example of where I think Canada is wrong, we should let this family stay..

Colombian family living in London loses fight to stay in Canada
 

waldo

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Wrong, fool. The total intake DOES include refugees and AND immigrants and it's close to 1% when you factor in ALL sources of new arrivals. You'll notice that the thread title is "NEW" Canadians, not just refugees. Your chart is also garbage as it indicates total numbers, not total intake as a percentage of the population. Try again.

fool? Are you that sensitive that an exchange brings you immediately to insult? In any case, I responded to your words, these words that focus on immigrant/immigration:
It's amusing how some people think being against mass immigration simply for the sake of having mass immigration means you're anti-immigrant or a racist.
but no worries, you're in good company... as I said, during the recent election campaign Harper was forever mixing and liberally twisting refuguees versus immigrants in attempts to make his case. As for the chart numbers, it shouldn't be a big reach for you to take any years total and arrive at the immigration rate based on that respective years population... as I said, in regards to immigration (which was your stated focus, per your words), that rate has been running @~0.7% of total. Not sure why you would get so bent out of shape... my number is more accurate than your suggested 1%... but is a 0.3% difference worthy of your meltdown?

Read the study by economists Herb Grubel and Patrick Grady. Even back in 1976 the Science Council of Canada echoed similar concerns about the negative potential of mass immigration. The simple fact is, welfare states are NOT compatible with free, mass immigration.

you were quite precise in using the word "unsustainable"... I simply stated: "as for your suggestion that Canada's rate is unsustainable, understanding the basis of that claim would require you to provide metrics/rationale...". I thought perhaps you would have a ready list/account to present... that you wouldn't simply drop go-fetch references. If you're not prepared to provide something directly... to link to and quote from something specific.....

Getting back to Herb Grubel, an economist at Simon Fraser University; Mass immigration (and let's not forget that refugees are a form of migrant) is a net loss to Canadians to the tune of about $30 billion per year and growing. Feel free to explain how that is sustainable.

provide a link... of course, if you're accurate in your summation/interpretation of that single account... it is a single account that you're quite ready to use as the defacto statement on the sustainability of Canada's immigration level.
 

davesmom

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Not particularly odd- if someone gave me something, that I questioned my right to, I might possibly disappear before someone started asking questions. :) :) Which country were the refugees from?

I meant it is odd that was all just swept under the rug and forgotten.

I can't remember what country the missing refugees were from but it might have been during the Gulf war. The time frame seems about right.
 

waldo

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Thank you, because I'm not against immigration, I'm just against immigrating people from a region in the world that exports terrorists.

such passion! You clearly have energy for betterment purposes... because I'm sure you know that refugees are not migrants... especially not economic migrants choosing on their own to attempt to improve future prospects. I'm sure you know that refugees have to move to save their very lives... to preserve their freedom. Can we start with you welcoming... openly embracing Syrian refugees to Canada... you're for saving their lives and preserving their freedom, yes?
 

Dixie Cup

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That and the decision to lengthen the campaign - never could get my head around that one.



Actually, I found it very informative and it quickly became clear where everyone stood, ESPECIALLY the media. A shorter campaign wouldn't have made it quite so obvious. The hatred was quite palatable in the MSM and the extra time brought all sorts of various organizations out of the woodwork which wouldn't have happened otherwise.


Unfortunately, style vs. substance won the day. I'm really hoping that things work out well but I'm not overly optimistic. But hey, I've been wrong before and I may well be wrong again.


Insofar as the refugee vetting is concerned, its been arbitrarily changed simply due to the fact the liberals want to bring so many in at once. That in and of itself is "changing the way refugees are dealt with".


Just sayin'
 

Cliffy

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Thank you, because I'm not against immigration, I'm just against immigrating people from a region in the world that exports terrorists..
You've lived in the US and they are the biggest exporters of terrorism in the world and now Canada; we exported terrorism to Libya and Syria. How come you are still here?
 

JLM

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Actually, I found it very informative and it quickly became clear where everyone stood, ESPECIALLY the media. A shorter campaign wouldn't have made it quite so obvious. The hatred was quite palatable in the MSM and the extra time brought all sorts of various organizations out of the woodwork which wouldn't have happened otherwise.


Unfortunately, style vs. substance won the day. I'm really hoping that things work out well but I'm not overly optimistic. But hey, I've been wrong before and I may well be wrong again.


Insofar as the refugee vetting is concerned, its been arbitrarily changed simply due to the fact the liberals want to bring so many in at once. That in and of itself is "changing the way refugees are dealt with".


Just sayin'

Maybe there is room for some optimism, Justin appears to have started listening. I wonder if there is not a way of "killing two birds with one stone." There has to be a few jobs necessary tending to the refugees and "keeping an eye" on things. Maybe some of our unemployed can be put to work.
 

MHz

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We probably already have cops masquerading as homeless people, how much more watched can a nation get?
 

DaSleeper

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davesmom

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Insofar as the refugee vetting is concerned, its been arbitrarily changed simply due to the fact the liberals want to bring so many in at once. That in and of itself is "changing the way refugees are dealt with".


Just sayin'

I can think of 3 recent cases where Muslim immigrants were charged with crimes; 1 was the terrorists who were planning to blow up a train between Toronto and the U.S., 2 were homicides where a man stabbed his wife to death 'because she found out she had rights' and where the husband and son drowned the first wife and daughters for 'becoming too Canadian'.
"Oh but that's only 3 cases", people say.
But in each case the defendants in court stated that 'they did not observe our laws; they obey only Islam'.
So how do people who obviously have no intention of conforming to our laws get into the country? And what makes people think they are the only ones who think that way?
They are more likely the only ones whose beliefs got them into trouble with the law so far. If these people are raised and inured in that kind of culture it is a pretty safe bet that most of them think the same way.
Observe the way Muslims conduct themselves, the difference between how the men present and how the women present and it is fair to say that the women are still dominated. There just haven't been any charges laid yet.
 

JLM

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The details are pretty sketchy now but there was a case near Kingston Ont. where 3 sisters from Montreal were deliberately drowned in their car when the parents pushed it into the St. Lawrence. Maybe one of the daughters had lost her virginity or done something else equally as dastardly.
 

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It amazes me that Liberals who bring these refugees to Canada, to a stange new land, no education and not their native language would think these refugees will be happy, no questions asked.. I mean it's Canada, why not?

Working minimum wage, in most cases, hard work and treated badly.

I pick up loads all over Montreal and talk to New Canadians every day.. some happy, some hate it here.. "So why do they stay?"

I found this on the bathroom wall... figured I'd share it. Sad.

Personally I'd have big problems with snot freezing on me moosestache. Be rough tryin fer a job interview with frozen snot under your snoot.
 

pgs

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Maybe there is room for some optimism, Justin appears to have started listening. I wonder if there is not a way of "killing two birds with one stone." There has to be a few jobs necessary tending to the refugees and "keeping an eye" on things. Maybe some of our unemployed can be put to work.
Nope they aren't in a union .