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IdRatherBeSkiing

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That and the decision to lengthen the campaign - never could get my head around that one.

Most columnists figured that would help the Conservatives. It may have had their campaign been better focused and they were a bit luckier. I think that refugee boy who wasn't even coming to Canada but everybody put a picture of him on the front page was probably in the end what did in the Conservatives. Sometimes those events just happen. All you can do is hope is they happen for you not against you. In 1988 in Turner vs. Mulroney round 2 going into the final week it was a near tie. Then there was some sort of heckler at a Liberal campaign event. A bit if a minor fight ensued but the picture of that heckler all bloody and bruised on the front page seemed to turn the campaign.

So basically every election is a crapshoot .... unless you have Iggy as a leader.
 

Jinentonix

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I would wonder how people from a hot and dry climate would acclimate to the harsh Canadian winters. That in itself would be a hell of an adjustment along with everything else. Difficult to be relocated and dislocated. Doesn't seem natural. Been going on for a long time though I wonder how it was when Spain removed the Jews and Muslims in the fifteenth century. Must have been hell.
Dude, many immigrants from the Philippines have settled in Winnipeg, which is considered to be Canada's coldest major city. And believe me, it has some pretty "fun" winters.


But, just so you know what Syria is like in winter
It’s a Cold Winter in Syria, Too
 

waldo

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Well, in Canada's case about 1% of our total population every year. Our intake is the by far the highest total per capita in the world and it's a rate that is unsustainable.

Canada's rate over recent years has been about ~0.7% of the total population. Canada is typically near the top of per-capita positioning... but not the top and certainly not "by far the highest" as you state. Harper made similar claims during the recent election campaign... when he was also mixing/confusing refugees versus immigrants. With an OECD focus, in recent years Australia and Luxembourg have topped the per-capita figures; most recently that top position is held by Germany.



as for your suggestion that Canada's rate is unsustainable, understanding the basis of that claim would require you to provide metrics/rationale...
 

tay

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No not really ,to be honest the editorial content in most major media were very anti conservative .In the last few days of the campaign when it became time for the media to
endorse ownership said conservative , but to suggest that independent editors and columnists were supporting is disingenuous at best .
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No.


The majority of Media was pulling for the CONS....


In 1984, Godfrey became publisher of the Toronto Sun, a right-wing cheeky tabloid notorious for its scantily clad “Sunshine Girls.” Eight years later, he was CEO of the Toronto Sun Publishing Group that controlled a small chain of papers.

It was during his stint as publisher of the Sun chain that Godfrey first demonstrated his willingness to use his newspapers to further his political ambitions, as he’s currently doing at Postmedia.

First, he pressed the Tory provincial government of Mike Harris to amalgamate Toronto’s various boroughs into one big city. Then he helped engineer the election of his friend Mel Lastman as mayor of the new mega-city. During the 1997 Toronto election, Godfrey ensured that only favourable stories or photos about Lastman appeared in the Toronto Sun. When reporter Don Wanagas wrote couple of unflattering pieces about Lastman, Godfrey had him removed as a municipal columnist.

Lastman would go on to preside over one of the most corrupt regimes in Toronto’s history, highlighted by the MFP Financial Services Ltd. computer leasing and bribery scandal, where a group of city insiders arranged to lease computers to the city that was supposed to cost $43-million - before being inflated to $85-million. Most of the key people in the scandal were Godfrey’s acquaintances or close friends. “There's no question he was very influential with Mayor Lastman,” says Miller, who was elected mayor in 2003 on a platform of cleaning up Toronto’s city hall after Lastman. “I certainly knew as a city councillor that Lastman’s office was in touch with Mr. Godfrey all the time.”

One victim of the fall of Postmedia has been its journalism.

A former National Post journalist, who spoke on condition of anonymity, recalls that by last year, reporters were being asked to produce more and shorter stories, with less in-depth coverage. Another former Post reporter said “they would look for regional CBC stories, get that and put a Post spin on it. That's how they found stories.”

Mike De Souza joined Canwest’s News Service’s Ottawa bureau in 2006. Back then, he says, they realized they needed to improve their environmental coverage, so he took on the task. De Souza soon produced scoop after scoop about how the Harper government was muzzling scientists, sabotaging global talks on curbing greenhouse gases and colluding with the oil industry.

One of his biggest exposés came in 2011 when De Souza revealed that University of Calgary political scientist Barry Cooper had funneled oil industry money to a climate change denial front group called Friends of Science. What was more astonishing about this story was that Cooper was, and remains, a columnist for the Postmedia-owned Calgary Herald, where he fulminates against the environmental movement.

Overall, De Souza’s journalism was so nettlesome to the Harper government that then environment minister Peter Kent publicly complained about him in 2013, saying in a letter that De Souza was an “environmental activist.”

However, in February of 2014, Postmedia shut down its Ottawa bureau, laying off De Souza and two other reporters. De Souza says that even by then, “the amount of time we had to dedicate to individual beats was decreasing and had been decreasing through the years… So all of the subjects are being covered less than they used to be.”

more.....

The tawdry fall of the Postmedia newspaper empire | National Observer


http://forums.canadiancontent.net/c...-columnist-gets-censored.html?highlight=paper


http://forums.canadiancontent.net/canadian-politics/138984-canadas-newspapers-were-tank-harper.html


http://forums.canadiancontent.net/c...dorses-conservatives-not.html?highlight=paper
 

davesmom

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Years ago, maybe as long as 20 years there were in excess of 40,000 refugees living in Canada who were unaccounted for. The story at the time was that they had landed, been given a stipend to tide them over and a requisition for a medical examination. They were never seen or heard of again.
Nothing has been reported on that situation since it first came out in the news.
Doesn't anyone find that odd? Doesn't anyone wonder how many more have disappeared into thin air since? Where they are? What they are doing?
 

Ludlow

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Years ago, maybe as long as 20 years there were in excess of 40,000 refugees living in Canada who were unaccounted for. The story at the time was that they had landed, been given a stipend to tide them over and a requisition for a medical examination. They were never seen or heard of again.
Nothing has been reported on that situation since it first came out in the news.
Doesn't anyone find that odd? Doesn't anyone wonder how many more have disappeared into thin air since? Where they are? What they are doing?
the zoluvians came and abducted them along with 40 cases of hidden valley ranch dressing.
 

Jinentonix

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Canada's rate over recent years has been about ~0.7% of the total population. Canada is typically near the top of per-capita positioning... but not the top and certainly not "by far the highest" as you state. Harper made similar claims during the recent election campaign... when he was also mixing/confusing refugees versus immigrants. With an OECD focus, in recent years Australia and Luxembourg have topped the per-capita figures; most recently that top position is held by Germany.
Wrong, fool. The total intake DOES include refugees and AND immigrants and it's close to 1% when you factor in ALL sources of new arrivals. You'll notice that the thread title is "NEW" Canadians, not just refugees. Your chart is also garbage as it indicates total numbers, not total intake as a percentage of the population. Try again.



as for your suggestion that Canada's rate is unsustainable, understanding the basis of that claim would require you to provide metrics/rationale...
Read the study by economists Herb Grubel and Patrick Grady. Even back in 1976 the Science Council of Canada echoed similar concerns about the negative potential of mass immigration. The simple fact is, welfare states are NOT compatible with free, mass immigration.
Getting back to Herb Grubel, an economist at Simon Fraser University; Mass immigration (and let's not forget that refugees are a form of migrant) is a net loss to Canadians to the tune of about $30 billion per year and growing. Feel free to explain how that is sustainable.
 

JLM

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Years ago, maybe as long as 20 years there were in excess of 40,000 refugees living in Canada who were unaccounted for. The story at the time was that they had landed, been given a stipend to tide them over and a requisition for a medical examination. They were never seen or heard of again.
Nothing has been reported on that situation since it first came out in the news.
Doesn't anyone find that odd? Doesn't anyone wonder how many more have disappeared into thin air since? Where they are? What they are doing?

Not particularly odd- if someone gave me something, that I questioned my right to, I might possibly disappear before someone started asking questions. :) :) Which country were the refugees from?
 

MHz

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It amazes me that Liberals who bring these refugees to Canada, to a stange new land, no education and not their native language would think these refugees will be happy, no questions asked.. I mean it's Canada, why not?
How did you make it as a cab driver in Calif when you immigrated to 'North America'?? (you still seem to have some work to do on your social skills and that is coming from somebody with more time here than you, so listen up chump)
 

MHz

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. They were never seen or heard of again.
Nothing has been reported on that situation since it first came out in the news.
Doesn't anyone find that odd? Doesn't anyone wonder how many more have disappeared into thin air since? Where they are? What they are doing?
Perhaps they got jobs and started paying taxes and stayed out of trouble with the law. That is the best way to 'disappear'.