NDP unleashes the first Mulcair Ad

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Soooo.....you really think that, after the last 17 years of strife, a couple of billion dollars, resistance, protest, non-compliance and political confrontation that any other gov't could come forward and say "Let's set up a universal registration system for long guns.........it will only cost $2 million"....and NOT pay a huge political price????

uh huh.

Are the CPC paying a huge political price for hiding $10 Billion from the F-35 cost?

nuh uh.
 

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Are the CPC paying a huge political price for hiding $10 Billion from the F-35 cost?

nuh uh.

People don't care about the F-15....it was money NOT spent, it touches no one personally, and when the A-G report came out, the gov't moved immediately to repair the process.

The issue will be dead in a month.

The registry actually cost a couple of billion, touched the lives of millions of Canadians, and absolutely refused to die for 17 years.

Big difference.
 

petros

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People don't care about the F-15....it was money NOT spent, it touches no one
personally
And that is why CWB is on the forefront. We won't know how much this will impact the producer until late this year. $25 to register a gun is bupkiss compared to losing thousands to freight and condo fees.
 

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Honestly, you'd think that even a person who wanted to reintroduce the long-gun registry would think twice about reintroducing it short of a non-partisan bill supported by all parties, considering the risk of a see-saw series of reintroductions and recancellations otherwise. That alone would likely cause even many proponents-in-principle of the registry to shy away from any candidate who promises to reintroduce it in the absence of non-partisan support from many MPs across the board beyond a simple party-majority.

Another thing to consider is that with many Quebec electors having been hoodwinked by MPs who'd never even visited their ridings prior to the last election, we can be sure that they'll probably be paying somewhat less attention to parties and mor to their candidates next election, thus giving all candidates more of a run for their money, which might be a good thing.
 

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NDP releases first ad featuring Thomas Mulcair

The New Democrats have released their first TV ad featuring newly-minted leader Thomas Mulcair, with the clear goal of strengthening his image in Quebec and branding him as a warm and engaging successor to Jack Layton.

In the ad, which is in French, Mulcair rolls up his sleeves, puts his hands on his hips, and pledges that an NDP government would listen to Quebecers and create a greener and more prosperous economy.

"It is possible. We have a vision, a goal to build a future together," Mulcair says, speaking in French.

Mulcair, who is often viewed as a hard-nosed and sometimes angry politician, is portrayed in the ad as warm and engaging -- characteristics that made Layton popular in Quebec and within the party as a whole.

Layton led the NDP to its "orange crush" success in Quebec in the last election, which vaulted the party to Official Opposition status and knocked the Liberals down to third place.

Layton, who died of cancer last August, was also known for sporting rolled-up sleeves, which enhanced his image as a leader who was willing to get down in the trenches and fight for Canadians.

CTV News Channel's Mercedes Stephenson said the new NDP ad appears to invoke the spirit of Layton in a number of ways.

"He's got a big smile, he looks very friendly, the way they've positioned him in the ad is very clearly attempting to try and capture that feeling of warmth with the voters, friendliness, the idea that we're all in this together, language that Layton liked to use," Stephenson said.

"It worked for them before and everyone knows he's not going to be a second Jack but everyone's hoping for somebody who can duplicate his attraction, especially in Quebec."
Promises from politicians? Go figure.
 

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I really believe the NDP was a protest vote, that the party and policies did not undergo the scrutiny that they will as opposition.........and that they were (in 2011) not on the CPC radar, and so were not targeted in the same way as the Liberals. Face it....they replaced the Bloc in Quebec, and the Bloc is far to the left of the average Canadian in the RoC. They literally can not serve two masters.

One could also easily say that voting in the Conservatives was also a protest vote against another Minority Government..... the Liberals royally screwed up, and the NDP didn't yet have enough seats to boost them above what the Cons already had, but they had enough to come pretty close. The Cons gained 23 seats while the NDP gained 67 seats, which is pretty damn good.

Well, according to the CBC, Mulcair has already expressed his desire to re-introduce the registry. I know he does not make policy alone, but his public statement of such a thing simply illustrates the divide between the Quebec left, and the rural left in the west. Jack tried to side-step the issue for a reason........

Well Layton continually talked about pulling out of Afghanistan for years, yet it never happened. It's just another boogyman tactic to try and make them sound evil.

Cool. I don't have a problem with that at all. Good luck with the Australian citizenship. Not planing to rum for PM anytime soon, I hope???

I might..... I'd love to get into a debate with Harper and run him into the ground on his nonsense.

Any national constitution that I ever heard of, including the Canadian one, requires considerably more than 50% + 1 to be amended. According to the Supreme Court of Canada, there must be a "clear majority" on a "clear question"............and that "clear majority" would only mean the Canadian gov't enter into negotiations with Quebec........soooooooo, argue with the Justices and the Canadian Constitution..............

Two thirds majority sounds sensible.

That's one thing that always made me laugh..... there needs to be a "Clear Majority" on a "Clear Question", yet they don't really explain "Clearly" what a "Clear Majority" or a "Clear Question" is..... thus whether or not something is "Clear" is subjective as hell and determined by those in power.

Ahhh....capitalism and property rights are what made the west dominate in the world for the last 500 years. It made you rich and free.

Yeah, Rich.... that's why I moved to another country to get a better pay with a better future in my job so I could finally start a family.

And Free?

Another subjective term that's not reall "Clearly" defined.

State control of the means of production has beenm a disasterous failure anywhere it has been tried.

Besides the obvious example of the USSR, I'd like to see a few examples of what you mean..... one example such as the USSR or other Communist Dictatorships that don't impliment Democracy at the same time are not very good examples.

Man, the left are not quick learners.

Nobody seems to be these days.

No luck required. Canada is a fairly conservative country. And with the shift of the power base west...........Mulcair and the NDP are the voice of the past.

Conservative depending on where you live in the country...... the only time the country becomes mostly Conservative is when Canadians get fed up with the previous government.... then they'll get sick of the Conservatives, vote another party in, and become more Liberal/Etc..... and then when they get sick of them, it switches back.

Canadians aren't Liberal, Conservative or NDP or even Bloc.... in reality, Canadians are whatever doesn't piss them off at the moment. :p
 

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I keep seeing references to the gains made by the NDP as opposed to those of the CPC. Just wondering what the left's take would be if the CPC had 90+% of their seats in one province and virtually all of their gains. Lets say also that particular province had a long history of sucking more than their share out of the federal welfare teat. What would the lefties say? I mean other than running around alternating between yelling "free lunch" and "the sky is falling'?
 

petros

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Farms already are private MF. I hope Wally is prepared to pick up the extra cost to get grain to the free market. When beer goes up $2 a doz we'll hear a lot more complaining..
 

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You're right; they didn't want it and are glad it's gone.

On the west coast almost no one even knows what the whet board is except a few rich retirees from the east. Whereas most of us have hunting rifles and deeply resent the LGR intrusion into our lives.
 

petros

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On the west coast almost no one even knows what the whet board is except a few rich retirees from the east.
Unless you work in the ports. Grain is a steady consistant dollar for the Port of Vancouver. If it were to go by the wayside, you'd hear about it big time.
 

CDNBear

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Saw Mulcairs new vid on YouTube. Had no choice really, it's runing in the adverts at the beginning of the vids.

Meh, I wasn't impressed. Made me think of Stephan Dion.