National Post: A Carbon Tax is Coming, No Matter What Conservatives Say

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Andrew Coyne: A carbon tax is coming, no matter what Ontario PC candidates say

All of the major candidates in the leadership race having pledged to have nothing to do with the carbon tax — Doug Ford immediately and enthusiastically, Caroline Mulroney and Christine Elliott belatedly, after seeing how Ford’s position was playing with the membership — the party would seem to have renounced its platform, blown a hole in its budget and, er, become stupid.

Except … that’s not what’s actually happening. The candidates can’t promise to scrap the carbon tax, because the platform didn’t promise to implement one. What it promised was to acquiesce in a federal carbon tax. A PC government would “opt in to the federal carbon price backstop,” as the document put it, “rather than directly impose one of its own.”

Of course, “acquiesce” suggests the party has some choice in the matter. But in fact it has none. It might have chosen to implement its own carbon tax, in which case the federal government would have deferred in its favour. But in the absence of a provincial tax, the feds have served notice they would impose their own. Whether the province agrees to it is irrelevant. The feds have the power to act unilaterally.

The candidates’ declaration of opposition to a carbon tax is therefore as meaningless as the platform’s readiness to “opt in” to it.

Either way, the tax will be collected. And either way, the province will most likely receive the same amount in revenues. The federal government has pledged, as a technical paper explained last year, to “return direct revenues from the carbon price to the jurisdiction of origin,” meaning, as the platform put it, “the province will receive a transfer worth the equivalent of all carbon pricing paid for by Ontario citizens.”

Andrew Coyne: A carbon tax is coming, no matter what Ontario PC candidates say | National Post
 

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That's truly unfortunate. The only way to defeat the carbon tax is to defeat the liberals and it's looking pretty gloomy!! They insist it's about the environment and carbon but it's really a redistribution of wealth and to be sure, they're going to benefit from it one way or the other! The rest of us can bloody well freeze in the dark! It's pathetic!


JMHO
 

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well they will all starve to death after the fact so its all good
 

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That's truly unfortunate. The only way to defeat the carbon tax is to defeat the liberals and it's looking pretty gloomy!! They insist it's about the environment and carbon but it's really a redistribution of wealth and to be sure, they're going to benefit from it one way or the other! The rest of us can bloody well freeze in the dark! It's pathetic!


JMHO

That's just crazy conspiracy talk.
 

Danbones

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No YOU never proved man made global warming. You just changed its name so you wouldn't look like such retarded maurice strong flavored, CUMMIEnazi globallist OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY CRAZED, freak, Science free, idjits.

Global warming is an INSANE PARANOID conspiracy theory FFS!
;)
Like taking a 10 % effective flue vaccine and then dying of pneumonia, but you still get used as a statistic to con the next year's flue people into taking a 10% effective vaccine...
..and then dying of pneumonia.

Now shut up and shovel!
 

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Smart move by the Ontario Conservatives. Now trudOWE gets the full blast from voters over the carbon tax scam. Good thing trudOWE is on his way out.
 

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If the past is any indication the conservatives will campaign hard against a carbon tax, then if elected they will introduce a carbon tax.
 

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With Nafta being systematically dissolved and AGW being utterly discredited.. Carbon taxes, provincial and federal, will be dismantled within a decade. Partly out of economic neccessity and partly out their pure uselessness and futility.

We'll kick that weakling crudball Trudeau out of office in the next election.. but there is an underlying voter revolt against the lies being foisted on us.. Free Trade, AGW, gobalism, libertarianism.. multiculturalism, feminism, homosexuality, euthenasia and other manifestations of the culture of death and disorder.. which has produced nothing but despair and impoverishment.

Andrew Coyne is an idiot, a NeoCon, and doesn't know is ass from a hole in the ground. It is in the Conservative movement that we see change being realized as the NeoCons will be ousted by traditional Conservatives. It's happening in a much more pronounced way in the the U.S... but it'll move up here.
 

darkbeaver

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Yes, we already know that global warming exacerbates snow in winters.
Voters want a carbon tax.


More Land in Tuvalu: http://www.nature.com/articles/s4146...

Here,s something else you think you know but don,t. Rising islands that global warming fools predicted would be sinking. HA HA HA


What do flat earthers fear? Sphere itself. BORROWED JOKE

Yes, we already know that global warming exacerbates snow in winters.
Voters want a carbon tax.

Voters are responsible for electing Truedough, why should responsible Canadians tolerate a repeat fuk-up.
 

captain morgan

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Then why am I lacking snow and on "polar vortex" #8 so far this winter?

That's due to the reality that you live in a Climate Change zone and as we all know as fact, these areas are immunce to global warming and therefore receiving any snow as per Flossy's facts

More Land in Tuvalu: http://www.nature.com/articles/s4146...

Here,s something else you think you know but don,t. Rising islands that global warming fools predicted would be sinking. HA HA HA


What do flat earthers fear? Sphere itself. BORROWED JOKE

hehehehe

more verifiable projections from the ecoweenie crowd debunked
 

Decapoda

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Then why am I lacking snow and on "polar vortex" #8 so far this winter?

I often wonder how this paranoid, incredibly reactionary society would react if North America went through another period of extreme drought like the dust bowl in the 1930's. I'm thinking there would be a lot of political leaders and special interest groups who would be screeching sermons of an imminent apocalypse, even more extreme than we have to endure today.

I wonder who would pay the carbon taxes if 66% of the population was on welfare or relief like they were back then.





 

DaSleeper

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Who..... if any... of the global warming preachers in this forum actually drives an electric vehicle....?
Show proof!
Don't be shy .....Unless you are just a damned (Do as I say not as I do) hypocrite!
 

petros

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That's due to the reality that you live in a Climate Change zone and as we all know as fact, these areas are immunce to global warming and therefore receiving any snow as per Flossy's facts



hehehehe

more verifiable projections from the ecoweenie crowd debunked

Went from 12 years of of terrible sledding to 30 years of normal and again drought last year and possibly this year.