I'm talking about the 60's and 70's here Walter. Not the middle to turn of the 19th century. Christians killing Christians.
More Muslims Killing Muslims........
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I'm talking about the 60's and 70's here Walter. Not the middle to turn of the 19th century. Christians killing Christians.
Me, too. The intelligent ones got out in the 1840's, the really weak died, and the only ones left became very bitter and those bitter feelings have taken a long time to be purged. Not all western cultures came out of their medieval period on January 1, 1400.
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Total death toll of the Irish Troubles over 30 years....3526 dead.
Now, I could make the point that the Troubles were hardly about religion, much more socio-political...........but you know, why spoil your fun.
Of course, when it's middle eastern....it's all about religion. When it's in the "western" world, it's sociopolitical.
Sure there were Christians killing Christians, but can't we just say that it's man killing man, plain and simple, like you were saying in regards to the sectarian violence between Muslims?
Now you're getting it!
Was Irish violence based on religious principle??? Of course not.
No. And it hasn't been for hundreds of years..........indeed, the last battles over philosophy fought between Christians anywhere....the last religious wars...were (off the top of my head) 300 years ago. And ended in the British Isles with the Battle of the Boyne.....in 1689. When Good King Billy saved us from Popes and Popery, and Knaves and Knavery, and wooden shoes and brass money.......anyway, you get the idea.
Much different with the current Muslim violence, based entirely on religious principle and the schism in Islam that occurred in 680 AD, when the grandson of Mohammed, the third Shia imam, was killed by Sunnis.........thus the attacks on Shia on the day set aside to commemorate their religious leader.
There hasn't been organized killing on religious principle in Ireland for hundreds of years.
Why?? This time tey're not killing our soldiers...they are killing each other.....our soldiers beeing there probably prevents them from even more killing...
On second thought.....you're right....let's pull them out:smile:
I tried that once. I was up for 7 days, thought I was a hummingbird and tried to drink nectar from a Cops cruiser.
We can thank el-Zarqawi in of the Al-Queda Iraq for the recent rounds of renewed war between these two muslim groups. He played on the fact that the sunnis who were allied with Saddam were left out of the politcal spotlight once America took control of the government.
Its too bad because before the recent Iraq war there was no connection between saddam and al-queda. Now the place is a ****ing breeding ground of hatred!!!
Its too bad because before the recent Iraq war there was no connection between saddam and al-queda. Now the place is a ****ing breeding ground of hatred!!!
What does pulling out of Afghanistan have to do with ending anything, they already betrothed themselves to Pakistan and Pakistan to them. Pakistan is already shooting at NATO supply trucks, The Pakistan Army fired on NATO troops first. They thought they were firing on insurgents. The NATO forces took measures to protect themselves and killed those who were firing on them. It was Pakistan's fault in the first place. The US has already apologized for the attack even though they did nothing wrong. Now the big problem, what should be done with the nukes Pakistan has? I personally don't think they can keep them out of terrorist control.
Heard that the Pakistanis are themselves negotiating with the Taliban. How can they do that, no not the negotiations but they really must be twisting to sit on both sides of the table at the same time. Why I am sure they know in full detail what the other is thinking down to the comma. Smart fellas they are, real smart.
Makes perfect sense to me. The Brits and Yanks have been playing both sides in conflicts for decades and have profited handsomely from it. Pakistanis are just following their example.
Stevo has been asked that for the last few years. He just wrapped himself in the flag and refused to answer.
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More Muslims Killing Muslims.......................Hey, it's a start. Better than killing infidels such as us.
Good mornink ironsides. Anyone who controls a nuclear weapon is a terrorist. The weapon alone is an insturment of terrorism, it was built to terrorize.
Good evening darkbeaver, Yes it was, but I prefer us having control than our terrorist buddies in the Mid-East.
I'm sure the freedom fighters of the Middle East think the same way about having nukes for themselves.
"History is a wonderful thing to study."..................Give it a crack sometime, Walter. Some Irish went back home or bred like rabbits. Seems to be quite a few people still there.
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Just hope these so called freedom fighters don't set their sights on your area. The nuclear bomb has always been a terrorist tool, and so far it has kept the peace at least did for us. As will the new improved super-stealthy. Another day, another blacker-than-black materials science breakthrough aimed at making stealthy objects even stealthier. A U. of Michigan researcher and his colleagues has created a new kind of nanostructured coating made of carbon nanotubes that could cloak an aircraft in complete blackness, concealing it in the visible range and beyond (think: radar). Suspended in paint, the nanomaterial could be rolled right onto aircraft to turn them super-black and super-stealthy.
http://www.popsci.com/category/tags/stealth-technology