Jewish MP: Israel acting like Nazis in Gaza

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There wasn't any....

Indigenous Palestinians that live in Israel are second class citizens and face discrimination and ethnic cleansing. Millions of other Palestinians live in concentration camps and lack fundamental human rights including nationality unlike Kurds, Basques, Welsh, First Nations, American Indians, Inuits. We could go on and on....
 

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There wasn't any....

Indigenous Palestinians that live in Israel are second class citizens and face discrimination and ethnic cleansing. Millions of other Palestinians live in concentration camps and lack fundamental human rights including nationality unlike Kurds, Basques, Welsh, First Nations, American Indians, Inuits. We could go on and on....

Are you calling their so called "refugee camps" concentration camps? Wow... you really hate them Jooos eh?

Perhaps you should do something about First Nation concentration camps first before you worry about Israel.
 

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I would describe Palestinians as a persecuted ethnic group with restricted mobility rights. Gazans are surrounded by walls lined with razor wire and mines. Guard towers watch kill zones and no one can leave except through a few controlled access points and only with Israeli permission.... Sure sounds like a concentration camp. How would you define a concentration camp in a way the excludes Gaza and many villages in the West Bank towns?

Definition of a concentration camp:

A concentration camp is a place which a government uses to keep people who are either against that government or who it thinks are too dangerous to remain free. Sometimes these are called internment camps, where a large number of people are put in prison without a trial. The people who are locked away in such a prison, are not usually yet found guilty of a crime, but may be politically against the leaders of a region, people who are of a certain race or religion, or non-military prisoners of war.

example:
During the so-called Indian Wars (1870's and later) the United States made many enemies who were Native Americans. These people were forced to leave their land and were often put into camps where they could not leave. In some cases, many people, especially children, died from hunger and sickness. These camps were called reservations, in that some land had been set aside, or reserved for the Native Americans. Again these camps were not meant to be so bad, but many things went wrong...
Concentration camp - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If the Palestinian situation doesn't fit the definition oif a concentration camp, then their imprisoned situation still remains inhumane, unfair, unjust and oppressed. Their situation needs some new name which adequately describes their lack of fundamental rights and freedoms.
 
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I did not mean to personally attack Colpy. I meant to put Colpy (and others) in the shoes of a Palestinian. If people here believe Palestinians have been treated justly, then they should have no problem with going through the same ordeal.

You named Colpy- Now you did not mean it- you twist words to suit your odorous agenda.

The UN states that 10,000 were killed in Syria in June- Arab regimes are quite skilled in mass murder- Think what would happen if Israel ever lost a war. 10,000 Jews murdered would be a slow day.
 

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A Palestinian "Concentration Camp"... complete with satellite TV! Whoop!





Another...

 

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You named Colpy- Now you did not mean it- you twist words to suit your odorous agenda.

The UN states that 10,000 were killed in Syria in June- Arab regimes are quite skilled in mass murder- Think what would happen if Israel ever lost a war. 10,000 Jews murdered would be a slow day.
Think what would happen if you suddenly grew breasts and a vagina.

Would you care to reference any other other ridiculous hypothetical events that never happened?

No doubt some Arab regimes are capable mass murderers. But as far as I know, Palestinians are a conquered people. None of their war criminals has ever committed the equivalent of the Deir Yassin massacre.
Remembering the Deir Yassin Massacre | Palestine Solidarity Project

I have no doubt that some Palestinian war criminals would if they could. But most Palestinians are unarmed civilians who only want to live in peace. Just like Israelis, only a few of them are war criminals.

BTW, Israeli war criminals and their allies are no slouches when it comes to mass murder:
SABRA AND SHATILA MASSACRE - YouTube
 

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No doubt some Arab regimes are capable mass murderers. But as far as I know, Palestinians are a conquered people. None of their war criminals has ever committed the equivalent of the Deir Yassin massacre.
Remembering the Deir Yassin Massacre | Palestine Solidarity Project


Oh that fairy tale?

The stories of rape angered the villagers, who complained to the Arab emergency committee that their wives and daughters were being exploited in the service of propaganda.[62] Abu Mahmud, who lived in Deir Yassin in 1948, was one of those who complained. He told the BBC: "We said, 'There was no rape.' He [Hussayn Khalidi] said, 'We have to say this so the Arab armies will come to liberate Palestine from the Jews'."[60] "This was our biggest mistake," said Nusseibeh. "We did not realize how our people would react. As soon as they heard that women had been raped at Deir Yassin, Palestinians fled in terror. They ran away from all our villages."[60] He told Larry Collins in 1968: "We committed a fatal error, and set the stage for the refugee problem."[63]A villager known as Haj Ayish stated that "there had been no rape". He questioned the accuracy of the Arab radio broadcasts which "talked of women being killed and raped", and instead believed that "most of those who were killed were among the fighters and the women and children who helped the fighters".[64] Mohammed Radwan, one of the villagers who fought the attackers, said: "There were no rapes. It's all lies. There were no pregnant women who were slit open. It was propaganda that ... Arabs put out so Arab armies would invade. They ended up expelling people from all of Palestine on the rumor of Deir Yassin."[65] Radwan added "I know when I speak that God is up there and God knows the truth and God will not forgive the liars."http://forums.canadiancontent.net/#cite_note-RN040698-64
 

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People who support the ethnic cleansing of Palestine of non-Jews and other Israeli atrocities believe a version of history unsupported by the evidence.
Who's supporting that?

FYI: while researching the above, I came across evidence that Zionists and Nazis openly collaborated with each other:
Correction, a "radical splinter group" of Zionists.

Millions of other Palestinians live in concentration camps and lack fundamental human rights including nationality unlike Kurds, Basques, Welsh, First Nations, American Indians, Inuits. We could go on and on....

1, They'd be Israeli, had they stayed put.
2, They'd have a Palestinian nationality if it weren't for Palestinian militant leadership.
3, First Nation are denied their nationality/sovereignty
4, Palestinians live in refugee camps, not concentration camps. You should look up what a concentration camp is.

I would describe Palestinians as a persecuted ethnic group with restricted mobility rights. Gazans are surrounded by walls lined with razor wire and mines. Guard towers watch kill zones and no one can leave except through a few controlled access points and only with Israeli permission....
That has a national airline and it's own airport.

Definition of a concentration camp:

A concentration camp is a place which a government uses to keep people who are either against that government or who it thinks are too dangerous to remain free. Sometimes these are called internment camps, where a large number of people are put in prison without a trial. The people who are locked away in such a prison, are not usually yet found guilty of a crime, but may be politically against the leaders of a region, people who are of a certain race or religion, or non-military prisoners of war.
You should actually read that.

Especially since the walls and wire are to keep people out. Not in, lol.

Would you care to reference any other other ridiculous hypothetical events that never happened?
Can I site all yours first?

But as far as I know, Palestinians are a conquered people. None of their war criminals has ever committed the equivalent of the Deir Yassin massacre.
Not that, that actually happened like that, but you have to love that excellent example of moral relativism.
 

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A Palestinian "Concentration Camp"... complete with satellite TV! Whoop!
Here in Canda our prisons have television.


Recreation areas too.


A prison is defined by lack of freedom of movement.

Certainly Palestinians have officially restricted freedom of movement.

The Great Wall of Israel (With Videos) « NWO Observer
The Israeli Wall - YouTube

Their official food and medical rations are determined by their Israeli prison guards.

I am aware a lot of Gaza has been rebuilt since it was destroyed by Israeli war criminals..... despite Israel's crime against humanity blockade of building materials. Gazans survive on what is smuggled in and out by hundreds of tunnels to Egypt, that Israel periodically bombs.
 

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Here in Canda our prisons have television.


Recreation areas too.


A prison is defined by lack of freedom of movement.

Certainly Palestinians have officially restricted freedom of movement.

The Great Wall of Israel (With Videos) « NWO Observer
The Israeli Wall - YouTube
Awesome, can you compare Lada's to telescopes now?

Prisons, built to keep people in. Walls and wire around Israel, built to keep people out.

You can ignore that fact until the cows come home, but it only proves all our observations right.

Their official food and medical rations are determined by their Israeli prison guards.

I am aware a lot of Gaza has been rebuilt since it was destroyed by Israeli war criminals..... despite Israel's crime against humanity blockade of building materials. Gazans survive on what is smuggled in and out by hundreds of tunnels to Egypt, that Israel periodically bombs.
More lies and demonization.
 

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Think what would happen if you suddenly grew breasts and a vagina.

Would you care to reference any other other ridiculous hypothetical events that never happened?

No doubt some Arab regimes are capable mass murderers. But as far as I know, Palestinians are a conquered people. None of their war criminals has ever committed the equivalent of the Deir Yassin massacre.
Remembering the Deir Yassin Massacre | Palestine Solidarity Project

I have no doubt that some Palestinian war criminals would if they could. But most Palestinians are unarmed civilians who only want to live in peace. Just like Israelis, only a few of them are war criminals.

BTW, Israeli war criminals and their allies are no slouches when it comes to mass murder:
SABRA AND SHATILA MASSACRE - YouTube

Not hypothetical- If Israel there would have been a massacre- Opps - Genocide- look to Hamas - Hezbollah- Iran- for how they look upon the State of Israel.
What Arab regimes have not suppressed their people thru the use of force- Egypt and Tunisia - So far with Egypt.

Please name the others.

Palestine was a State and the people chose War with Israel- countries lose land when they lose - Germany is a clear example- Serbia is another-

The Arab Countries borders are an artificial construct form the English and French after the War.

I note how you always refer to Israeli War Criminals yet none have been indicted by the ICC in the Hague- Why is that?

So provide proof of Israeli War Crimes and have it vetted by the Mods, otherwise it is a deliberate incitement of hatred for a distinct religious sect. If not then cease using the term- Inciting hatred is still a crime in Canada.
 

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So provide proof of Israeli War Crimes and have it vetted by the Mods, otherwise it is a deliberate incitement of hatred for a distinct religious sect. If not then cease using the term- Inciting hatred is still a crime in Canada.

I want to see the findings from the Hague myself.

If there aren't any, than any accusation is libel and slander.

And we all know how EAO feels about that.
 

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I want to see the findings from the Hague myself.

If there aren't any, than any accusation is libel and slander.

And we all know how EAO feels about that.

Well EAO is fond of the rules and always telling everyone else to adhere- Guess he will have to follow as well-Inciting hatred for a specific identifiable ethnic group, religion, sexual orientation and more is a violation of the Criminal Code.

Imagine him in Remand in Edmonton-
 

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Israelis are free to come and go as they please. The walls only restrict the movement of Palestinians.... not only to Israel but to the world. the walls separate Palestinians from each other. Palestinians in one part of the West Bank cannot travel freely to another part of the West Bank. Also the walls go around Gaza and the West Bank and enclose Palestinians, they don't go around Israel or enclose Israelis...

Israeli prisons for Palestinians separate families, students from schools, people requiring medical treatment from hospitals, the faithful from places of worship. Palestinians who live behind these walls have no citizenship, rights, freedom or justice. While Palestinians continue to suffer oppression and injustice some will resort to violence in pursuit of freedom and justice.

Canada should not unshakably support injustice and oppression.

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People who support the ethnic cleansing of Palestine of non-Jews and other Israeli atrocities believe a version of history unsupported by the evidence. This invented narrative of Jews returning home to Israel is designed to twist a foreign invasion into an act of defense and portray hostile invaders as innocent victims. Even Jewish historians have rejected these distortions, deliberate deceptions and outright lies:
New Historians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Genetic and archeological evidence prove Palestinian history in this region goes back to prehistoric times. Palestinians (Muslims, Christians and Jews) and Jews who originate from this region are essentially the same race.
Epiphenom: The shared genetic heritage of Jews and Palestinians

Jews that left this region in the first and second century tended to keep their religion and intermarried with European, African and Asian converts to Judaism. Only the people that left can claim they are returning home. Unless some of these people are still alive (they would be 1800+ years old), Jews who claim they are "returning home" to Israel but were born somewhere else clearly fit the definition of immigrants.

The Jews that stayed in this region are ancestors of Palestinians. Over the centuries these people intermarried with immigrants and a majority converted to Islam and Christianity. These people clearly fit the definition of indigenous people.

The name Palestine originates from 390AD when this region was ruled by the Romans. By the time this region was conquered by the Ottomans, the indigenous Muslims, Christians and Jews were already known collectively as Palestinians.
Timeline of the name Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Under Ottoman rule, all Palestinians (Muslims, Christians and Jews) lived together relatively peacefully. Jews and Christians were protected by the Ottomans as long as they paid their taxes.

Starting in the late 1800's European Jews began to immigrate to Palestine to avoid European discrimination, injustice and oppression as part of a movement known as Zionism. Zionists claimed that Palestine was "A land without people for a people without land". The only land without people at the time would have been Antarctica. Nearly every other region of the planet has been populated for tens of thousands of years just like Palestine. This "Land without people" lie is just one of many Zionist distortions and deceptions they promote in order to support their goal of cleansing Palestine of non-Jewish Palestinians.

By 1948, the land Zionists claimed had no people, was populated by about 1.3 million indigenous Palestinians (Muslims, Christians and Jews).

European Jewish immigration to Palestine increased dramatically in the 1930's and 40's as a result increased European oppression and injustice towards Jews. By the early 1940's European Jews faced extermination if they didn't emigrate. Millions of Jews fled Europe. Hundreds of thousands illegally immigrated to the British Mandate of Palestine.

In 1947 the UN proposed a partition plan for European Jews living in the British Mandate of Palestine. The plan ignored the rights of hundreds of thousands indigenous Palestinians who lived here before European Jewish refugees began immigrating to the British Mandate of Palestine. The UN Partition plan proposed turning hundreds of thousands of indigenous Palestinian Muslims and Christians into second class citizens in a state for mostly European Jewish immigrants. Even though the indigenous Palestinians were the majority in the region (about 70%), they were never consulted and no vote was taken regarding the UN plan. The UN partition plan divided up the British Mandate of Palestine so the European immigrant side had a slim Jewish majority (55/45), more territory, the best farmland and control over the water resources. The majority non-immigrant Palestinians which had an overwhelming Muslim and Christian majority (99/1) got less land, (very little of it arable) and no control over the water resources. Most of the indigenous Palestinian side was desert.

The 1947 UN partition plan helped solve a post WW II European refugee crisis by shifting the burden onto the indigenous Palestinians. Anyone in the world claiming to be Jewish could go to Palestine and help the Zionist immigrants cleanse the British Mandate of Palestine of indigenous non-Jews. That ethnic cleansing war continues to this day.

Jewish Israeli historians have determined that the Jewish immigrants to Palestine never intended to share Palestine with non-Jewish Palestinians. The Zionists had always envisioned turning Palestine into a Jewish only state and removing the indigenous non-Jews. Zionists often disagreed about the means to remove non-Jews, but they always agreed that the Jewish state would have a Jewish majority and in order for that to happen, hundreds of thousands of non-Jew had to leave. Some Zionists proposed non-violent means of achieving this goal (I could even support some of their proposed non-violent methods). But the Zionists who proposed violent ethnic cleansing eventually got their way. By the time the British had abandoned their Palestinian mission (1948), Zionist terrorists and war criminals had already killed thousands of non-Jewish Palestinians in a series of atrocities and terrorist acts:
List of Irgun attacks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Lehi (group) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The first two waves of Palestinian refugees had already fled Palestine by the time the European immigrants declared independence:
1948 Palestinian exodus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The indigenous people never invited the European Jewish immigrants. The indigenous Palestinians were never consulted when the UN gave their land to mostly European immigrants. Zionists came to this region as immigrants and started the ongoing ethnic cleansing war. As a result of Zionism, millions of indigenous Palestinians live as nationless refugees without recognized rights or freedoms in terrible oppression and injustice. People living this way tend to become violent over time...
 

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Israelis are free to come and go as they please.
Nope, they must provide ID to move through the airports, ports, and all borders.

The walls only restrict the movement of Palestinians.... not only to Israel but to the world.
Nope.

...they don't go around Israel or enclose Israelis...
That's right. They separate Palestinian terrorists, from Israelis.

Israeli prisons for Palestinians separate families, students from schools, people requiring medical treatment from hospitals, the faithful from places of worship.
Oh well, I guess not putting terrorism to bed, brought hat on themselves eh.

Palestinians who live behind these walls have no citizenship, rights, freedom or justice.
That's their choice.

While Palestinians continue to suffer oppression and injustice some will resort to violence in pursuit of freedom and justice.
Yes, it's been well established that you endorse that.

Canada should not unshakably support injustice and oppression.
It doesn't. It supports Israel.

The indigenous people never invited the European Jewish immigrants. The indigenous Palestinians were never consulted when the UN gave their land to mostly European immigrants. Zionists came to this region as immigrants and started the ongoing ethnic cleansing war. As a result of Zionism, millions of indigenous Palestinians live as nationless refugees without recognized rights or freedoms in terrible oppression and injustice. People living this way tend to become violent over time...

So when are you leaving my land?
 

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Israelis are free to come and go as they please. The walls only restrict the movement of Palestinians.... not only to Israel but to the world. the walls separate Palestinians from each other. Palestinians in one part of the West Bank cannot travel freely to another part of the West Bank. Also the walls go around Gaza and the West Bank and enclose Palestinians, they don't go around Israel or enclose Israelis...
They stopped infiltration of Terrorists who were killing civilains - after it was completed the attacks dropped.

Israeli prisons for Palestinians separate families, students from schools, people requiring medical treatment from hospitals, the faithful from places of worship. Palestinians who live behind these walls have no citizenship, rights, freedom or justice. While Palestinians continue to suffer oppression and injustice some will resort to violence in pursuit of freedom and justice.

Canada should not unshakably support injustice and oppression.

Bump:

People who support the ethnic cleansing of Palestine of non-Jews and other Israeli atrocities believe a version of history unsupported by the evidence. This invented narrative of Jews returning home to Israel is designed to twist a foreign invasion into an act of defense and portray hostile invaders as innocent victims. Even Jewish historians have rejected these distortions, deliberate deceptions and outright lies:
New Historians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

An old Jewish Proverb - There are 3 sides to a coin- Translation - 3 sides to a story- translation- You only see one side

Genetic and archeological evidence prove Palestinian history in this region goes back to prehistoric times. Palestinians (Muslims, Christians and Jews) and Jews who originate from this region are essentially the same race.
Epiphenom: The shared genetic heritage of Jews and Palestinians

We are all one race- Except you single out one specific religious and ethnic group for hatred.

Jews that left this region in the first and second century tended to keep their religion and intermarried with European, African and Asian converts to Judaism. Only the people that left can claim they are returning home. Unless some of these people are still alive (they would be 1800+ years old), Jews who claim they are "returning home" to Israel but were born somewhere else clearly fit the definition of immigrants.

The Jews that stayed in this region are ancestors of Palestinians. Over the centuries these people intermarried with immigrants and a majority converted to Islam and Christianity. These people clearly fit the definition of indigenous people.

Ancestors of Palestinians- Way out there today.Genetic proof please and link -


The name Palestine originates from 390AD when this region was ruled by the Romans. By the time this region was conquered by the Ottomans, the indigenous Muslims, Christians and Jews were already known collectively as Palestinians.
Timeline of the name Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Archaeologists have dated Egyptian references to Israel- Jews as far back as 1300 or so BC.And I posted the link quite some time ago for you. Again you forget.


Under Ottoman rule, all Palestinians (Muslims, Christians and Jews) lived together relatively peacefully. Jews and Christians were protected by the Ottomans as long as they paid their taxes.

Starting in the late 1800's European Jews began to immigrate to Palestine to avoid European discrimination, injustice and oppression as part of a movement known as Zionism. Zionists claimed that Palestine was "A land without people for a people without land". The only land without people at the time would have been Antarctica. Nearly every other region of the planet has been populated for tens of thousands of years just like Palestine. This "Land without people" lie is just one of many Zionist distortions and deceptions they promote in order to support their goal of cleansing Palestine of non-Jewish Palestinians.

By 1948, the land Zionists claimed had no people, was populated by about 1.3 million indigenous Palestinians (Muslims, Christians and Jews).

European Jewish immigration to Palestine increased dramatically in the 1930's and 40's as a result increased European oppression and injustice towards Jews. By the early 1940's European Jews faced extermination if they didn't emigrate. Millions of Jews fled Europe. Hundreds of thousands illegally immigrated to the British Mandate of Palestine.

In 1947 the UN proposed a partition plan for European Jews living in the British Mandate of Palestine. The plan ignored the rights of hundreds of thousands indigenous Palestinians who lived here before European Jewish refugees began immigrating to the British Mandate of Palestine. The UN Partition plan proposed turning hundreds of thousands of indigenous Palestinian Muslims and Christians into second class citizens in a state for mostly European Jewish immigrants. Even though the indigenous Palestinians were the majority in the region (about 70%), they were never consulted and no vote was taken regarding the UN plan. The UN partition plan divided up the British Mandate of Palestine so the European immigrant side had a slim Jewish majority (55/45), more territory, the best farmland and control over the water resources. The majority non-immigrant Palestinians which had an overwhelming Muslim and Christian majority (99/1) got less land, (very little of it arable) and no control over the water resources. Most of the indigenous Palestinian side was desert.

The 1947 UN partition plan helped solve a post WW II European refugee crisis by shifting the burden onto the indigenous Palestinians. Anyone in the world claiming to be Jewish could go to Palestine and help the Zionist immigrants cleanse the British Mandate of Palestine of indigenous non-Jews. That ethnic cleansing war continues to this day.

Jewish Israeli historians have determined that the Jewish immigrants to Palestine never intended to share Palestine with non-Jewish Palestinians. The Zionists had always envisioned turning Palestine into a Jewish only state and removing the indigenous non-Jews. Zionists often disagreed about the means to remove non-Jews, but they always agreed that the Jewish state would have a Jewish majority and in order for that to happen, hundreds of thousands of non-Jew had to leave. Some Zionists proposed non-violent means of achieving this goal (I could even support some of their proposed non-violent methods). But the Zionists who proposed violent ethnic cleansing eventually got their way. By the time the British had abandoned their Palestinian mission (1948), Zionist terrorists and war criminals had already killed thousands of non-Jewish Palestinians in a series of atrocities and terrorist acts:
List of Irgun attacks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Lehi (group) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Correction - Some historians- The ones that agree with your viewpoint


The first two waves of Palestinian refugees had already fled Palestine by the time the European immigrants declared independence:
1948 Palestinian exodus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The indigenous people never invited the European Jewish immigrants. The indigenous Palestinians were never consulted when the UN gave their land to mostly European immigrants. Zionists came to this region as immigrants and started the ongoing ethnic cleansing war. As a result of Zionism, millions of indigenous Palestinians live as nationless refugees without recognized rights or freedoms in terrible oppression and injustice. People living this way tend to become violent over time...


Time to educate yourself Buckey
 

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I'll repeat again for the nth time. Palestinians descend from Jews who never left this region. References to Jews by Egyptians refer to the common ancestors of many Jews and nearly all Palestinians These Jews who stayed in the region, intermarried with immigrants and a majority converted to Christianity and Islam. Genetic and archeological evidence proves that most Jews and all Palestinians are really the same race. The differences between them are based mostly on religion and mythology.
 

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I'll repeat again for the nth time. Palestinians descend from Jews who never left this region. References to Jews by Egyptians refer to the common ancestors of many Jews and nearly all Palestinians These Jews who stayed in the region, intermarried with immigrants and a majority converted to Christianity and Islam. Genetic and archeological evidence proves that most Jews and all Palestinians are really the same race. The differences between them are based mostly on religion and mythology.
Isreal exists now. Get over it.

Maybe you should apply some of your hatred to the nations that refuse to allow Palestinians to become citizens.