Importance of the North = importance of the Inuit?

Kakato

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Good for them!
I see french in there also and it stands to reason as the french have been in the arctic for many years.
One thing about Inuktitut is it has many variations depending on where you go and a word can mean many things as some sentences are just a bunch of words all stuck together.
Hard to explain,it has to be one of the hardest languages to learn.
 

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Woah horsey! While I agree that we have failed to honour all the treaties, the Aboriginals do have options besides taking up arms. I'd like to see more peaceful, united and harmonious relations in future. They have the option of going to the International Court of Justice, and can also organize at the grassroots with others like ourselves to promote their languages... within legal means. Learn an Aboriginal language if you can or, alternatively, learn an auxiliary language as a means of counterbalancing the more imperialist languages. We needn't start a revolution. More peaceful solutions are available.

What's wrong with revolution? Imagine where humanity would be had none taken place. Peaceful revolution is still revolution and still offers solutions but the stick sometimes in dire circumstances (like genocide by assimilation) in your friend indeed when you are in need.
 

AnnaG

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Sorry, can't understand it. However, I've become interested in learning a local Aboriginal language. I'd looked everywhere for quality textbooks and dictionaries for Algonquin, Ojibwe, etc, but they're really tough to come by. So more recently I've been looking at possible courses. Supposedly there are some in Ottawa. A friend gave me the phone number, so I'll have to contact him. One problem with a course though is my schedule. Self-instruction would be better for that, but I need the books!

Anyway, that's my rant.

And yes, I do agree that the local Aboriginal language should always get at least as much official recognition as its European counterparts.

I think you meant the Ojibwe part?

It means thanks for chatting with me. :)

CD for learning Ojibwe Anishinaabemowin CD-ROM, learn the Anishinaabe language and culture

There are courses in Anishinaabemowin but I don't know where.
 

AnnaG

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We have to remember that Canada or Britain honoured their agreements with the aboriginals unlike the Americans who decided to break their promises and carried out genocide on their aboriginals.

Nunavut is one of the success stories of land claim settlements.
roflmao You have an odd sense of honor.

Treaties | Our Legacy

Donovan & Company - The Supreme Court of Canada Decision in Mikisew Cree First Nation v. Canada (Minister of Canadian Heritage)

Why won't Ottawa honour its First Nations treaties? - Full Comment
 

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In the present economic/political context the importance of the Inuit is not even detectable, the resources are the exact opposite. They (the Inuit) should press for the very best deal from the alien entity known as Canada while arming themselves and opening dialogue with other Arctic peoples specifically Russia. The fastest route to ethnic extinction would be to rely on the good intentions of this nation (Canada) toward their people and the social welfare designs of Canadian fascists. Todays political atmosphere pretty much dictates their forced assimilation and the rape of their resources as fast as possible with little or no regard for the abos be they black white yellow or red.
Sorry, Beav, but the majority of aboriginals prefers to deal with the Canadian gov't in the courts. It's been recognized that politicians cannot buck the courts very easily so that is the route taken. Except for a few hothead youths, of course.
Us Injuns not stoopid, yu no. :D
 

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Woah horsey! While I agree that we have failed to honour all the treaties, the Aboriginals do have options besides taking up arms. I'd like to see more peaceful, united and harmonious relations in future. They have the option of going to the International Court of Justice, and can also organize at the grassroots with others like ourselves to promote their languages... within legal means. Learn an Aboriginal language if you can or, alternatively, learn an auxiliary language as a means of counterbalancing the more imperialist languages. We needn't start a revolution. More peaceful solutions are available.
Yeah, what Machjo said. :D
 

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You misunderstood me here. I was simply saying that we should honour the treaties, though of course a Treaty can be changed IF all signatories can agree to a better deal. But of course if the Aboriginals refuse, then we ought to abide by the treaties, and hurry up with it already. It's been awhile. We're no better than the Americans in how we've been draggin our feet. Let's thank God the Aboriginals are not charging interest.

OK, maybe we did do better than the US on this front, but why compare ourselves to another country, and excuse our injustices because another country's is worse? That's lowering our standards right there. When it comes to moral perfection, we should compare ourselves to none but ourselves, ensuring we're always moving forward.
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Cool. Perhaps we should partition Manitoba and Ontario and demand our language be official, too. :D

Miigwech giibinbwaachiweyin!
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I'm likin' this idea too? Now, what did you say?:fish:
 

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Inuktituk words

igloo = snow house

nanook = polar bear

padlu = snow knife for building an igloo

tuktu = caribou

klinga = nose

kablunuk = eyebrows close to eyes (white people)

Just a few I can remember right away from living in Resolute Bay and Churchill.

I found the language easier to pick up than French. Once you understand sylabics, the words are pronounced the same way they are spelled. But I've forgotten most of it now.
 

petros

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May as well make Dene official for NWT and YT

BTW treaties or no treaties we all get free university. If you believe otherwise you are a weenuk and should lay off the kinikinik wine. We are all equal. No ifs ands or buts about it.

CCOR&F says:
15. (1) Every individual is equal before and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and equal benefit of the law without discrimination and, in particular, without discrimination based on race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability.

Is there remedy if some old bat at your provincial education ministry says it's not a right? Yup!

24. (1) Anyone whose rights or freedoms, as guaranteed by this Charter, have been infringed or denied may apply to a court of competent jurisdiction to obtain such remedy as the court considers appropriate and just in the circumstances.

$20 to file for a judgement and off to university you go free of charge.
 
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In the present economic/political context the importance of the Inuit is not even detectable, the resources are the exact opposite. They (the Inuit) should press for the very best deal from the alien entity known as Canada while arming themselves and opening dialogue with other Arctic peoples specifically Russia. The fastest route to ethnic extinction would be to rely on the good intentions of this nation (Canada) toward their people and the social welfare designs of Canadian fascists. Todays political atmosphere pretty much dictates their forced assimilation and the rape of their resources as fast as possible with little or no regard for the abos be they black white yellow or red.

This is true enough. Our culture, the main culture that has enveloped and taken control of civilization some thousands of years ago, is constructed in a way that only assimilation affords some sense of a past culture in little more than a novel setting. People fawn over what once was and wish they had a shot at it, but it's long gone. Pining for it does no good.

Treaties are like bargaining for hostages. Give you this give you that, yadda yadda yadda, it's all lip service. The ugly truth that few will even consider is that one and all are conquered at one time or another and that in fact, might makes right.
Survival of those most willing to kill off all who stand in the way then pillage all that was theirs is rule number one. No exceptions.

Back in the day, there used to be two options. Join up or die. Now that we're all about winning the hearts and minds, a third option has been added. It's particularly appealing to the most sadistic of the lot actually. You can now choose to stand aside and watch as the One Culture rapes and pillages it's way round and round the globe opening new frontiers of exploitation. The condition is that when the gaze of the all mighty One lands upon you, you best be smiling and nodding in agreement lest we feel slightly offended and take your head.

The cries of "I want I want I want" as those with great pride fall over each other to suckle at the arse of the One in hopes of a few drops of their own wealth that has long ago been consumed. In Canada your ancestors stood around patting themselves on the back for a job well done. In the US some of your ancestors held their fist in the air and stood their ground. Still better than those who met the Spanish. They couldn't even see it coming.

The rest patted themselves on the back and cheered for the virtue of welfare martyr. There is no deal with the Devil. There is no magical happy resolve for the cultures obliterated now and in the past. There is no compromise. Get in line or get your throat ripped out. That is the promise of the culture of the One.

Things are changing? It's going to get better tomorrow? Just gotta hold on a little longer? Good luck with that.

Understand this, ten thousand years ago One culture climbed out of the trees and said "mine". Deal with that.
 

Kakato

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Umilik-the bearded one or whiskered one(thats what they named me)
Kabluna-a white guy or gal
Kabluneak-a whole bunch of white guys.
Bear(brown) aklark
bear (polar) nanuk
bear cub atertak, nanertak
bear skin nanurark
Wolf amarok
dog kringmerk

One of our drillers was from Resolute bay when I was northwest of Baker lake,one tough sumbitch.

I spent many hours sitting in the Churchill and Thompson airports waiting for a "Calm Air" flight.
You can never grasp how freaking big this country is untill you fly over the barrenlands west of the tip of Hudsons bay,It will allways leave me awestruck how many thousands of miles are just ice or water and small islands.
 

petros

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Massive is right. When flying over the tundra I see a resource far bigger than the minerals. Judging by the massive jump in number of thunderstorms and record temps in the north it won't be long before that land becomes agricultural.
 

Kakato

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I dont know about agricultural,it still freezes cak stiff at the end of september and wont thaw until the end of june where I was at.
By march the ice was allmost 9 feet thick and we were running 50 tonne caterpillar rock trucks over 30 miles of lakes.
What does grow in the short 3 month summer grows damn quick though.
Heres a montage of video clips and pics from my first year at a remote camp 60 miles from the arctic circle,enjoy.YouTube - Just another day at the office
 

petros

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No need to look at videos. I'm a geologist and have worked the arctic for 20 years.

There are plenty of crops that will grow in that short of time. Peas and lentils, some beans and even red spring wheat.