If now you see a miracle, will you believe?
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I wouldn't attribute these greatest countries to just Christianity's doing, as many of these countries you refer to are made up of people who come from all sorts of religious beliefs, or lack there of, who've contributed greatly to a nation's current standing & social improvements, where their religious beliefs had nothing or very little to do with things.
No resurrection of bodies once again after death and the bodies decayed and may become part of other bodies:
A tree may grow on a graveyard and its fruits include substances from the decayed bodies, then these substances will be parts of new bodies.
No return of bodies again to life. The spiritual ethereal soul is everlasting and the material body will disintegrate and no need for reviving it once again.
The question now: You think that you worship God in the first place, and everything God tells you should obey.
But you believe in some wrong concepts and ideas: that Jesus is son of God ...etc.
Then if God Himself tells you: this is wrong; and that is through an objective miracle: a beast comes from the earth to speak and tell you the truth: God has not any son nor any parent;
what is your response then: will you believe or keep up to your previous idea: that God has Jesus as His son?
The Ark of Noah, in which Noah and the believers with him were saved and the rest were drowned, was certainly a miracle. The flood itself in response to the disbelief and denial of the disbelievers and idolaters among his people; this flood in which all the disbelievers and idolaters were drowned, while Noah and his followers were saved: it was certainly a miracle.
Noah built his Ark by God's instructions and revelation until he completed it on a dry land which had montains and where there was no flood, and the idolaters mocked him deeming him a crazy and mad man. They said to him: You now have become a carpenter after being a prophet: would you build it at the sea shore and it will be better for you!
("But build the Ark under Our observation and as We instruct you by revelation, and address Me noton behalf of the wrong-doers [that I may pardon them, and do not intercede forthem]; surely they are going to be drowned.")
The above is the explanation of the Quran 11: 37
{وَاصْنَعِ الْفُلْكَ بِأَعْيُنِنَا وَوَحْيِنَا وَلاَ تُخَاطِبْنِي فِي الَّذِينَ ظَلَمُواْ إِنَّهُم مُّغْرَقُونَ} (37) سورة هود
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Hey, like get a life eanassir, most posters here don't believe in this miracle sh^t. And nor do we care.
There are few if any Muslims on this forum so you should go preach your nonsense to a Muslim forum. Most here have gone beyound this stupidity and most here don't need religion as a crutch to get thru life. I realize you Muslims need all the help you can get tho!!
There are few if any Muslims on this forum so you should go preach your nonsense to a Muslim forum. Most here have gone beyound this stupidity and most here don't need religion as a crutch to get thru life. I realize you Muslims need all the help you can get tho!!
So what is the point of being chained to an ancient millstone if you're not permitted to find humour?
Being the donkey would be the wise move....
I had a guy "working" with me one time who was dead from the A&&hole both ways (suffered from dropsy and heart fever), then one day out of the blue got up and did a days work. Does that qualify as a miracle?
To me: Yes, I accept it from an animal better than accepting it from you.
Your reply reflects your insisting on your false atheistic thinking in spite of any miracle.
If God Himself tells us in the Quran or in any revelation (true, authentic: not fabricated and doubted): if God Himself tells us that He has a son, then I should be the first one to worship that son; but this is impossible, and they said it after convincing themselves by traditions and distorted altered books. And in fact God has no son, no daughter, no parents and not any wife.
(Say [O Mohammed, to them]: "If the Most Gracious had any son [or daughter], then I would be the first to serve [that son or daughter.]"
Glory be to the Lord of the heavens and the earth, the Lord of the Throne, above [the son or daughters] that they ascribe [to Him.])
The above between brackets is the explanation of the Quran 46: 81-82
قُلْ إِن كَانَ لِلرَّحْمَنِ وَلَدٌ فَأَنَا أَوَّلُ الْعَابِدِينَ . سُبْحَانَ رَبِّ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ رَبِّ الْعَرْشِ عَمَّا يَصِفُونَ
The miracle is decided by God; God Himself does it on the behalf of His apostle; so the miracle that He told about is an animal or a beast coming of the earth and speaks to them.
(And when the word [of punishment] was pronounced against them,
We brought for them a beast
from the earth,
which spoke to them that people had not believed [before] in Our signs.)
The above is the explanation of the Quran 27: 82
{وَإِذَا وَقَعَ الْقَوْلُ عَلَيْهِمْ أَخْرَجْنَا لَهُمْ دَابَّةً مِّنَ الْأَرْضِ تُكَلِّمُهُمْ أَنَّ النَّاسَ كَانُوا بِآيَاتِنَا لَا يُوقِنُونَ} (82) سورة النمل
Abu Abd Allah once said to me: I think most probably God may confirm me with the miracle of the "beast" [speaking to them.]
Miracles of the Prophets
Argha-Noa was the the annual celebration in ancient Egypt when the flood waters of the Nile subsided.....
Judeaism is based on Egyptian beliefs....
Judeaism is based on Egyptian beliefs....
First off, eanassir is right. Jesus never said he was the son of god, he said I am a son of god and he also said we are all children of god. On this point, eanassir is wrong in saying god had no sons or daughters as we are all the sons and daughters of god according to Jesus. The third thing is that any book written by men is not a book written by god. God only wrote his message in his creation and thus, it is only within his creation that you will find the message, that is, within nature. Books contain no truth, only wiggly lines on paper. The only holy book is the book of life.
You are correct Clifford the Bifford man. There is only ONE passage that says Son of God. The rest say God's son. Jesus even said we are all God's sons.