Move Canucks East Coast and they would have been lucky to make it to 4th spot in the division.
How about them Canucks!
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Although I like Boston, and cheered for them against tampa bay, I'm afraid because they won and
canucks lost, everyone has completely forgotton each teams strengths and weaknesses earlier in
the playoffs.
I don't want to see canucks make much of a change at all, but of course gillis will tweak and
make a bigger change if it makes sense to him.
Luongo and schneider will continue to be a great tandem, and schneider will be more of a force
going into playoffs next time, and throughout the season if luongo isn't playing well, he will
step in a become the man, or they will both be as good as they were last season, which was excellent.
The loss of hamhuis was crucial in the playoffs, I hope I don't see him do one of those hip checks
ever again.
Boston was given the opening as they saw the weaknesses that had crept into canucks game. I also
can see it very clearly, and I won't forget the amazing season canucks had, and all of the injuries
they acquired during playoffs.
And yes, Luongo was definitely a key player who must have given vineault fits during the finals, as
he played great, then poorly, then great, and on and on, so vineault could not give the series to
schneider, had to stick to luongo, hard decision, but had to be done.
Kesler was injured, and he will need all summer to heal from that hip injury, thankfully it looks
like he doesn't need surgery, at least at this point.
The only point I will agree on is the twins, as great as they are they do not stand up to play off
hockey, and that isn't just boston it was chicago and nashville, and they did fine against san jose
because their defense isn't that great.
The best defense they played against was nashville.
It won't do the boston team any good to build them up into something they really are not, people must come
back to earth and see them as what they really are, a team, without much offense, who got on a role,
and very lucky to come out of the tampa bay series with the victory.
If nashville had of been in the finals with canucks, they would probably have come away with the
victory as well, they are very very similar to boston, a great goalie, good defense, but come up
short on offense, BUT when any team can see the opposition is hurt and their two top players are
struggling, and their power forward is injured, and their goalie is shaky, they will rise to the
occasion and close in for the kill, that is what professionals do, they can see the weakened
opponant and know they can kill it, just like an animal with an injured prey.
Looking back at luongo I think he was very very nervous in boston, then came home and felt more
comfortable, how else would anyone explain that goofy back and forth play of his, so, he must get
over it, or he won't be the playoff goalie next year.
Good for boston, they deserved the victory, but the adjectives used now to explain the finals are
way over the top, and don't see either team accurately.
canucks lost, everyone has completely forgotton each teams strengths and weaknesses earlier in
the playoffs.
I don't want to see canucks make much of a change at all, but of course gillis will tweak and
make a bigger change if it makes sense to him.
Luongo and schneider will continue to be a great tandem, and schneider will be more of a force
going into playoffs next time, and throughout the season if luongo isn't playing well, he will
step in a become the man, or they will both be as good as they were last season, which was excellent.
The loss of hamhuis was crucial in the playoffs, I hope I don't see him do one of those hip checks
ever again.
Boston was given the opening as they saw the weaknesses that had crept into canucks game. I also
can see it very clearly, and I won't forget the amazing season canucks had, and all of the injuries
they acquired during playoffs.
And yes, Luongo was definitely a key player who must have given vineault fits during the finals, as
he played great, then poorly, then great, and on and on, so vineault could not give the series to
schneider, had to stick to luongo, hard decision, but had to be done.
Kesler was injured, and he will need all summer to heal from that hip injury, thankfully it looks
like he doesn't need surgery, at least at this point.
The only point I will agree on is the twins, as great as they are they do not stand up to play off
hockey, and that isn't just boston it was chicago and nashville, and they did fine against san jose
because their defense isn't that great.
The best defense they played against was nashville.
It won't do the boston team any good to build them up into something they really are not, people must come
back to earth and see them as what they really are, a team, without much offense, who got on a role,
and very lucky to come out of the tampa bay series with the victory.
If nashville had of been in the finals with canucks, they would probably have come away with the
victory as well, they are very very similar to boston, a great goalie, good defense, but come up
short on offense, BUT when any team can see the opposition is hurt and their two top players are
struggling, and their power forward is injured, and their goalie is shaky, they will rise to the
occasion and close in for the kill, that is what professionals do, they can see the weakened
opponant and know they can kill it, just like an animal with an injured prey.
Looking back at luongo I think he was very very nervous in boston, then came home and felt more
comfortable, how else would anyone explain that goofy back and forth play of his, so, he must get
over it, or he won't be the playoff goalie next year.
Good for boston, they deserved the victory, but the adjectives used now to explain the finals are
way over the top, and don't see either team accurately.
The western conference was much stronger than the east all season, just check the stats.
the east better clue in and get better, or they will continue to look like
the junior team in the league 'again', has nothing to do with winning the
cup, that is only playoffs.
the east better clue in and get better, or they will continue to look like
the junior team in the league 'again', has nothing to do with winning the
cup, that is only playoffs.
Schneider should have seen waaaay more ice time.
They have 3 months to beef up , learn from mistakes and advance their stratagies.
I'll be in Vancouver for Grey Cup (got my tix the other day) I'll have to go to a Canucks game or two. I make it to a Oilers game once or twice a year but everytime I've gone they've lost.
$500 to see a team lose isn't worth it.
They have 3 months to beef up , learn from mistakes and advance their stratagies.
I'll be in Vancouver for Grey Cup (got my tix the other day) I'll have to go to a Canucks game or two. I make it to a Oilers game once or twice a year but everytime I've gone they've lost.
$500 to see a team lose isn't worth it.
Boston sure squeaked by Vancouver, if you count goals for / goals against.
Vancouver struggled against Chicago, and couldn't do anything in Boston, and at home barely won the 3 games they did on home ice.
That points out a major weakness - on the road, they can't score, and goaltending was terrible. At home, they could barely score, but the goaltending saved them. There's definitely some part of the chemistry that's missing, and until management addresses it, they'll never get the Cup.
The league also needs to decide what rules if any they intend to play the game under. They can't call every chincey phantom call in the season then turn it into the WWF for the finals. Pick one, or preferably something closer to what it used to be, so everyone can create a team for it.
No, no, no, no Petros- West is the tougher Conference! :smile:
About 90% of the problems can be summed up to the fact the Canucks peaked a month or so too soon! :smile:
Actually on the radio the Bruins players were speaking very highly of him when they were making the rounds after winning the Cup.
of course in public they will always support each other, that isn't what I mean. Shawn Avery was
always supported by his teamates too, until he pushed them too far, did things that were too tacky
too often, until a couple of his teamates on new york then dallas began speaking up. I'm sure
boston coach will pin his ears back a few times, to make him tow the line, and not embarrass him
in games.
Boston coach is a straight up guy, honest and not a coach who wants any of his players playing a
shameful game and marchant probably is lucky to have him, because he won't do the things he did
in the future, or he'll be up on the carpet.
When asked 'why' he kept punching sedin over and over, he said "because I felt like it", that is
not a man talking, but a silly little boy.
Canucks motto all year was 'not' to partake in the scrums and punching etc., but to fight back in
the power play, which was the best in the league, but that system didn't work in the playoffs, and
it was not just with Boston, but in all of the series, not sure what went wrong there, but thats
the way it went, and it changed everything for vancouver.
yes canucks defense was just fine before injuries, and they could stack up against boston any time,
but with hamhuis and rome gone, it began to wilt a little, but it still wasn't the problem, we didn't
have enough offense, no sedins, kesler injured, those three are the biggest assets, then they have
their secondary offenses, who will chip in, but aren't the main frame scorers.
And Luongo was a big confidence killer for his team, made them worry, made them unsure of him, and wondered
'if' he was going to stop shots or not.
Now that the dust has settled, and heads clear, and it is getting behind us now, I am a little glad they
didn't win, now they can come back next year and battle all year and see if they can get there again,
and do it better, (but injuries are uncontrollable), can't do much about that.
Being outscored by 17 goals is not the way to win the cup, glad they didn't do that, and it is amazing
that they still had the 'chance' to do it, even though they were outscored by that much.
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Kevin Bieksa just signed a new 5 yr. contract with canucks, about 23 mil over 5 years, I know it
is a lot of money, but he is taking less to stay in vancouver, because as a free agent, (which he
would have been on july 1) he could have tested the free agent market and made 'more',so good for
him.
Erhoff has not come to any agreement yet, maybe he wants to hold out and see who will pay him more,
we'll see.
Lapierre also signed a two year contract with canucks for 1 mil per year. I like him a lot, glad
he's staying.
Kevin Bieksa just signed a new 5 yr. contract with canucks, about 23 mil over 5 years, I know it
is a lot of money, but he is taking less to stay in vancouver, because as a free agent, (which he
would have been on july 1) he could have tested the free agent market and made 'more',so good for
him.
Erhoff has not come to any agreement yet, maybe he wants to hold out and see who will pay him more,
we'll see.
Lapierre also signed a two year contract with canucks for 1 mil per year. I like him a lot, glad
he's staying.
Roberto Luongo attempts suicide.
Roberto Luongo attempts suicide. :lol:
A distraught Roberto Luongo has attempted suicide after repeated harassment on his performance in the Stanley Cup playoffs. It is said that he attempted suicide by stepping in front of a train, fortunately the speeding locomotive went right between his legs.
Roberto Luongo attempts suicide. :lol:
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yes, I'm happy about that too, and if erhoff wants more money than either one of them, he won't get it,
and shouldn't get it, he could get the same, and I hope he doesn't think he's above that, or he is
whistling in the wind around here, and will have to put himself on the open market, we'll know by
friday.
Caught Global news last night and was happy to hear about the signings so far - it appears that the Canucks will have all the power and skill they need to come back again next year. Mostly though, I am happy that Ryan is back!
I agree with what you have to say about Erhoff - hope he sees that being part of the team is worth a couple of mil. :smile:
While on the morning walk, I got in a pensive mood thinking about the Canucks and decided many people have been "selling them short". It was only two weeks before the "Boston Fiasco", they thumped the Sharks (one of the biggest teams in the league) in five games. Anyone else remember that?????????? :lol: I think their problems are mental more than physical and a lot of it can be attributed to Rome getting the heave- ho for four games. It was right after that they fell apart.
yes, JLM we all have to come back down to earth and see our team realistically, and yes, I sure do
remember that game, the best game of the season, canucks won it in a shoot out 5-4 I think.
Yes, in my opinion it was both mental and physical, physical being injuries, and mental being trying
to play through poor goalie performances in boston, that takes away confidence when you don't have
faith in the goalie to stop the puck, and the fiasco of a power play which was their bread and butter
all season, didn't show up in the playoffs, 'all' the playoffs, took away many goals and definitely
took the twins right out of the picture, but they also didn't show up like they should have, and
that is something that needs to be dealt with for next 'playoffs'.
I can't point to any one thing for canuck problems, and I certainly know it was NOT because boston are
the better team, because they are not.
for me it was the goalkeeping and the power play and the injuries, and ANY opposition who you are
playing, who can see that happening will 'pounce', and we would have done the same thing to them if
thomas had of failed, but he didn't, he was a wall, and the biggest reason for boston's success.
I do not think that boston won because they are bigger or more bullish, that is
only top dressing and not the real reason, canucks normally can hit and push back
any team, they did it all season, but they lost confidence, and did not play like
they can, for different reasons, as I mentioned above, at least that is how I see it.
NOTE; CHRISTIAN ERHOFF is not going to accept same as bieksa and hamhuis, and gillis has made an
announcement to other teams that he will offer erhoff to another team for his negotiation rights,
if one so desires, which means from now till friday, (free agency day), another team can offer
him a contract without other teams able to do same, and canucks of course would receive compensation
for those rights.
obviously erhoff isn't emotionally attached to canucks at all, and wants what he wants. Even hamhuis came to
canucks for quite a bit less than he was offered from some other teams, because he 'wanted' to play
here.
I notice that Amstel is trying to find out which Bruin bought a solitary Amstel Light when they had their $156,000 bar visit.