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[PoliticalNick]

Though Canada was the oldest Dominion in the British Commonwealth, it was, for the most part, reluctant to enter the war. Canada, with a population somewhere between 11 to 12 million, eventually raised very substantial armed forces. Around 10% of the entire population of Canada joined the army, a very small amount of which was conscripted.

Over the course of the war, 1.1 million Canadians served in the Army, Navy, and Air Force. Of these more than 45,000 lost their lives and another 54,000 were wounded.[6]

Over 10% of our people served in WW2, almost all as volunteers.

While the response to war was initially intended to be limited, resources were mobilized quickly. The Convoy HX-1 departed Halifax just six days after the nation declared war, escorted by HMCS St. Laurent and HMCS Saguenay.[18] The 1st Canadian Infantry Division arrived in Britain on 1 January 1940.[19] By 13 June 1940, the 1st Battalion of The Hastings and Prince Edward Regiment was deployed to France in an attempt to secure the southern flank of the British Expeditionary Force in Belgium. By the time the battalion arrived, the British and allies were cut off at Dunkirk, Paris had fallen, and after penetrating 200 km inland, the battalion returned to Brest and then to Britain.

While the British Expeditionary Force were getting kicked off the continent we were progressing towards Paris with only 1 battalion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_Canada_during_World_War_II

Good thing Britain did all that fighting alone and save those of us who didn't participate.

 

[JLM]

You should read more history. Chamberlain did what you say, but when he was signing away Czechoslovakia he realized he'd been had..

In defence of Neville Chamberlain from what little I've read about the man I think he was pretty well ravaged by cancer at the onset of WW2 so possibly was not operating at full potential.

 

[Blackleaf]

The US Navy had the largest navy. Not only the largest but if you combined all the world's navies they still were smaller than the US Navy.

I knew I was dealing with people who somehow think their countries were superhuman during WWII, with their soldiers singlehandedly defeating the Nazis by shooting laser beams from their eyes and blow huge boulders at them with their breathsm but this just takes the piss.

To say that the US Navy was bigger than every other navy in the world put together is the biggest load of ****e I've ever read on this forum, and that's saying something.

Either you are taking the piss on a gargantuan scale or you are embarrisingly misinformed.

The fact that Britain had the largest navy in the world - at least twice as large as any other navy - is one of the world's best-known historical facts. And yet people are trying to insult the intelligences of those with at least three braincells by trying to tell me that the United States Navy was bigger than that of the Royal Navy and bigger than the navies off all the rest of the world put together!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

The fact of the matter is that in 1939, at the start of WWII, the Royal Navy was the biggest naval force on the planet, and had been for around 200 years.

At the start of Second World War the Royal Navy was still the largest in the world, consisting of 15 battleships and battlecruisers with 5 under construction, 7 aircraft carriers, 66 cruisers with 23 more under construction, 184 destroyers with 52 under construction, 45 escort and patrol vessels with 9 under construction and 1 on order, and 60 submarines with 9 under construction.

It was a massive naval force, and dwarved both the USN and Royal Canadian Navy.

Of course not... the facts will not support you.

Well try posting facts then istead of ludicrously exaggerated twaddle.

The first victories in Europe came about with the US and Canada in Sicily and Italy.

I would say the first German defeat on Continental Europe was inflicted by the Soviets during Operation Barbarossa in 1941.

By the way, it wasn't very nice of you to (for reasons known only for yourself) omit Britain's great contribution to the invasion of Sicily, which saw the British suffering more casualties than the Americans and Canadians PUT TOGETHER.

We fed you during the Battle of Britain. Canadians, Poles, and Americans propped up your tiny AF.

2,353 British piots took took part in the Battle of Britain.

There were 145 Poles.

There were just 83 Canadians......

and a paltry 11 Yanks.

Germany invaded Poland... not Britain and France.

Which led Britain having to declare war on Germany to honour the Anglo-Polish Agreement, which you don't know about because your knowledge of WWII is poor.

France fell and the Brits were thrown of the continent... rather easily.

Just as the Yanks were thrown out of Vietnam.

The Brits started a war

No, they didn't. Hitler did.

In defence of Neville Chamberlain from what little I've read about the man I think he was pretty well ravaged by cancer at the onset of WW2 so possibly was not operating at full potential.

And what were the Canadians doing to stop Hitler throughout the 1930s.

I'm just interested to know.

 

[Goober]

I knew I was dealing with people who somehow think their countries were superhuman during WWII, with their soldiers singlehandedly defeating the Nazis by shooting laser beams from their eyes and blow huge boulders at them with their breathsm but this just takes the piss.

To say that the US Navy was bigger than every other navy in the world put together is the biggest load of ****e I've ever read on this forum, and that's saying something.

Either you are taking the piss on a gargantuan scale or you are embarrisingly misinformed.

The fact that Britain had the largest navy in the world - at least twice as large and any other navy - is one of the world's best-known historical facts. And yet people are trying to insult the intelligences of those with at least three braincells by trying to tell me that the United States Navy was bigger than that of the Royal Navy and bigger than the navies off all the rest of the world put together!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

The fact of the matter is that in 1939, at the start of WWII, the Royal Navy was the biggest naval force on the planet, and had been for around 200 years.

At the start of Second World War the Royal Navy was still the largest in the world, consisting of 15 battleships and battlecruisers with 5 under construction, 7 aircraft carriers, 66 cruisers with 23 more under construction, 184 destroyers with 52 under construction, 45 escort and patrol vessels with 9 under construction and 1 on order, and 60 submarines with 9 under construction.

It was a massive naval force, and dwarved both the USN and Royal Canadian Navy.



Well try posting facts then istead of ludicrously exaggerated twaddle.



I would say the first German defeat on Continental Europe was inflicted by the Soviets during Operation Barbarossa in 1941.

By the way, it wasn't very nice of you to (for reasons known only for yourself) omit Britain's great contribution to the invasion of Sicily, which saw the British suffering more casualties than the Americans and Canadians PUT TOGETHER.



2,353 British piots took took part in the Battle of Britain.

There were 145 Poles.

There were just 83 Canadians......

and a paltry 11 Yanks.



Which led Britain having to declare war on Germany to honour the Anglo-Polish Agreement, which you don't know about because your knowledge of WWII is poor.



Just as the Yanks were thrown out of Vietnam.



No, they didn't. Hitler did.

Lost again, we have a thread on this. Move on over.

 

[Blackleaf]

Still, Hitler would have won without Canada on Britain's side. And the US.

Not according to historians.

There is no "common monarch".

She's called Elizabeth II. Look her up on Wikipedia. She's been Queen since 1952.

Britain could not have forced us to join WW1

It could and it did. That's something else you may want to look up on Wikipedia.

Unbeknownst to you, Canada was part of a thing called the British Empire (Wikipedia will tell you all about it) at the start of WWI. It was NOT a sovereign independent state and had no choice put to fight as part of the British Empire.

 

[Goober]

Not according to historians.



She's called Elizabeth II. Look her up on Wikipedia. She's been Queen since 1952.



It could and it did. That's something else you may want to look upo on WWI.

Unbeknownst to you, Canada was part of a thing called the British Empire (Wikipedia will tell you all about it) at the start of WWI. It was NOT a soverign independent state and had no choice put to fight as part of the British Empire.





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Wrong
Lost again, we have a thread on this. Move on over.

 

[JLM]

And what were the Canadians doing to stop Hitler throughout the 1930s.

I'm just interested to know.

I wouldn't dwell too much on that if I was you! Hitler started preparing for WW2 way back in 1933, but Britain didn't even catch on until 1936. Read your history books, read some books on Churchill.

 

[Blackleaf]

Military history of Canada during World War II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

Nah. It was a week later you joined the war, yet I was told in all seriousness earlier on that Britain spent ages "begging" Canada to join the war, because of the Canadians' legendary ability to shoot laser beams from their eyes and pick up boulders with their finger.

The reality is that Britain didn't beg. Canada was in it from the start.

 

[JLM]

Hey Blackleaf, time you read the rules of the forum and quit hijacking threads.

 

[Blackleaf]

The Poles had enigma broken. Brits helped towards the end, but t'was the Poles that did the heavy lifting.

You want to learn about Bletchley Park, pal, where the vast majority of the codes were broken.

The Brits aren't very well liked in Europe.

The Yanks even less so.

OK... the US did not have an AF during WWII.



Unfortunately for you... the US supported you there as well.

"The United States was concerned by the prospect of Argentina turning to the Soviet Union for support,[29] and initially tried to mediate an end to the conflict. However, when Argentina refused the U.S. peace overtures, U.S. Secretary of State Alexander Haig announced that the United States would prohibit arms sales to Argentina and provide material support for British operations. Both Houses of the U.S. Congress passed resolutions supporting the U.S. action siding with the United Kingdom.[30]
The U.S. provided the United Kingdom with military equipment ranging from submarine detectors to the latest missiles.[31][32][33] President Ronald Reagan approved the Royal Navy's request to borrow the Sea Harrier-capable amphibious assault ship USS Iwo Jima (LPH-2) if the British lost an aircraft carrier. The United States Navy developed a plan to help the British man the ship with American military contractors, likely retired sailors with knowledge of the Iwo Jima's systems.[34] France provided dissimilar aircraft training so Harrier pilots could train against the French aircraft used by Argentina."

And you beat Argentina.

That's like me bragging about Grenada and Panama. Which are two BTW. lol.

You FAIL AGAIN!

Can you give me a list of any American regiments that fought in that war?

 

[PoliticalNick]

Sure, when it defeated the Spanish Armada


Your revisionism is becoming legendary! Canada declared war on the Nazis 3 days after Britain. We were there from the beginning. All those battles you talk about before the US entered involved Canada and Canadian troops fighting beside British forces. Don't let reality get in the way of your ego though, it is hilarious to watch.


Correction....it was 7 days later.

Military history of Canada during World War II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nah. It was a week later you joined the war, yet I was told in all seriousness earlier on that Britain spent ages "begging" Canada to join the war, because of the Canadians' legendary ability to shoot laser beams from their eyes and pick up boulders with their finger.

The reality is that Britain didn't beg. Canada was in it from the start.

Next time quote the whole post a$$hole. I made the correction long before you read it!

You really are grasping at straws. You can't even decide if we were there from the start or came in after Britain had already won it all.:roll:

 

[petros]

Maybe you need to take a look at who the Canadians who fought were.

How many British surnames end with ski, son, eau, sky, vich, man, stein, io and many many more ethnic markers? They weren't fighting for you.

They were fighting for or against their homelands.

 

[EagleSmack]

He's a Yank, come to tell us how great he and fascist America are. Just smile and tell him to spend lots of money while he's here.


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Blackleaf is a Yank or are you having trouble following a thread again? My guess is the latter.

 

[captain morgan]

And what were the Canadians doing to stop Hitler throughout the 1930s.

I'm just interested to know.

What were we doing? The Canadian and US 1st Special Services were leaving calling cards like this for the force that you had so much difficulty with:

 

[EagleSmack]

I knew I was dealing with people who somehow think their countries were superhuman during WWII, with their soldiers singlehandedly defeating the Nazis by shooting laser beams from their eyes and blow huge boulders at them with their breathsm but this just takes the piss.

To say that the US Navy was bigger than every other navy in the world put together is the biggest load of ****e I've ever read on this forum, and that's saying something.

Sigh...

Can you make it any easier? Seriously... can you even try?

By 1943, the Navy's size was larger than the combined fleets of all the other combatant nations in World War II.[3] By war's end in 1945, the United States Navy had added hundreds of new ships, including 18 aircraft carriers and 8 battleships, and had over 70% of the world's total numbers and total tonnage of naval vessels of 1,000 tons or greater.[4][5] At its peak, the U.S. Navy was operating 6,768 ships on V-J Day in August 1945, including 28 aircraft carriers, 23 battleships, 71 escort carriers, 72 cruisers, over 232 submarines, 377 destroyers, and thousands of amphibious, supply and auxiliary ships.

Either you are taking the piss on a gargantuan scale or you are embarrisingly misinformed.

The fact that Britain had the largest navy in the world - at least twice as large as any other navy - is one of the world's best-known historical facts. And yet people are trying to insult the intelligences of those with at least three braincells by trying to tell me that the United States Navy was bigger than that of the Royal Navy and bigger than the navies off all the rest of the world put together!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

Sigh...

Another lay up for ES

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_had_the_largest_navy_in_world_war_2

I enjoyed the Exclamation Points. Clearly you've popped!

I would say the first German defeat on Continental Europe was inflicted by the Soviets during Operation Barbarossa in 1941.

Where you would be wrong again of course.

By the way, it wasn't very nice of you to (for reasons known only for yourself) omit Britain's great contribution to the invasion of Sicily, which saw the British suffering more casualties than the Americans and Canadians PUT TOGETHER.

Can't help it if you guys are slow.

2,353 British piots took took part in the Battle of Britain.

There were 145 Poles.

There were just 83 Canadians......

and a paltry 11 Yanks.

Honestly... Stop embarrassing yourself

Eagle Squadrons

And it wasn't even our war yet...yet the we still saved your butts.

Which led Britain having to declare war on Germany to honour the Anglo-Polish Agreement, which you don't know about because your knowledge of WWII is poor.

I knew about the silly agreement. That does not change the fact the Britain Declared War on Germany and not the other way around. To which they drove you into the sea... quite easily I may add.

Just as the Yanks were thrown out of Vietnam.

Just admit defeat now.

 

[MHz]

Bull****. Without British actions and victories in Europe before America even entered the war, America wouldn't have been able to put boots on the ground in Europe to begin with, and neither would the Canadians.

The British cleared the way in Europe for the Yanks and Canucks to step foot on the Continent in the first place. America and Canada wouldn't have been able to put boots on the ground on Continental Europe had Britain not cleared the way for you to do so in the first place.

Britain was down to about a weeks worth of food.

 

[EagleSmack]

Can you give me a list of any American regiments that fought in that war?

What war? Quote was trimmed... as they say.

At any rate... without US support of the Briddish in the Malvina's you never would have pulled it off. Another tough pill for the Briddish to swallow.

 

[PoliticalNick]

Sigh...

Can you make it any easier? Seriously... can you even try?

By 1943, the Navy's size was larger than the combined fleets of all the other combatant nations in World War II.[3] By war's end in 1945, the United States Navy had added hundreds of new ships, including 18 aircraft carriers and 8 battleships, and had over 70% of the world's total numbers and total tonnage of naval vessels of 1,000 tons or greater.[4][5] At its peak, the U.S. Navy was operating 6,768 ships on V-J Day in August 1945, including 28 aircraft carriers, 23 battleships, 71 escort carriers, 72 cruisers, over 232 submarines, 377 destroyers, and thousands of amphibious, supply and auxiliary ships.

Sigh...

Another lay up for ES

Who had the largest navy in world war 2

I enjoyed the Exclamation Points. Clearly you've popped!


Where you would be wrong again of course.

Can't help it if you guys are slow.



Honestly... Stop embarrassing yourself

Eagle Squadrons

And it wasn't even our war yet...yet the we still saved your butts.


I knew about the silly agreement. That does not change the fact the Britain Declared War on Germany and not the other way around. To which they drove you into the sea... quite easily I may add.


Just admit defeat now.

Down boy! Don't chase him off completely.....he is amusing to me. ;-)

 

[hunboldt]

Again, you overestimate your country's value to the war.

For a start, there were nowhere near 48 Canadian squadrons during the Battle of Britain. Was that wildly exaggerated figure something which you just plucked from thin air?

There were 71 RAF squadrons in total which took part in the battle. As well as Brits, there were more Poles and more New Zealanders than Canadians fighting in the battle.

The RAF recognises just 83 Canadians who fought in the Battle of Britain.

The deadliest RAF squadron during the Battle of Britain was 303 Squadron, which consisted of Poles.

That rates a response. One of the unfortunate parts of 1930's Empire economic planning was the assumption that Canada would serve as a raw material stockpile, while Britain would pay for the materials by supplying arms.

Canadian fighter plane production was held up prior to 1940, which explains why Canada was woefully under equipped. a smarter plan would have been to disperse production.

The need for aluminum was completely underestimated.

Once again you're lack of knowledge is making you look like an even bigger fool.

The US Navy had the largest navy. Not only the largest but if you combined all the world's navies they still were smaller than the US Navy.

Do you ever plan to back up you foolishness? Of course not... the facts will not support you.





What victories? The Brits were driven into the sea. The first victories in Europe came about with the US and Canada in Sicily and Italy.




We fed you during the Battle of Britain. Canadians, Poles, and Americans propped up your tiny AF.





Germany invaded Poland... not Britain and France. They invaded a number of countries before that. Britain and France declared war on Germany. France fell and the Brits were thrown of the continent... rather easily.

The Brits started a war that they could not win without the help of the Canadians, Americans, and other Commonwealth nations. And of course the Soviets. If Hitler was such a darn fool by taking them on you would have been finished.

This is one case where Blackleaf is more correct.
The Untied States prepared with a 'flawed strategy' for submarine warfare with its massive fleets of world war One Caldwell and Wickens Four stacker destroyers, which could not turn to follow a submerged German submarine. Britain, fortunately, had its 'sub chaser' proponents win out in the late thirties over its fast destroyer advocates. five slow, highly maneuverable corvettes, based on a whale catcher design could be built faster than a destroyer, and could keep the submarines submerged, allowing a convoy to survive.

In 1939, the British lost an aircraft carrier trying the hunt and pursue strategy.

 

[Machjo]

The Parti Quebecois' popularity has dropped significantly since its 'values charter' fiasco. Sounds like she's desperately tryng to change the channel.

Yet even some sovereigntists are now questioning whether Quebec is ready to use its power responsibly if it separates after that 'values charter' fiasco.

Essentially, what Quebec sovereigntist needs enemies with a friend like the Parti Quebecois. All federalists need to do is give Marois a microphone and let her do the work. Or Palle will do too.