Hey guess what...Quebec wants to separate again

[EagleSmack]

The deadliest RAF squadron during the Battle of Britain was 303 Squadron, which consisted of Poles.

You must be proud. lol

Speaking of Poles... I worked with a guy from Poland. They hate the Brits for abandoning them in WWII. The Brits aren't very well liked in Europe.

 

[captain morgan]

When I go to bars in Continental Europe I get bought free beers as a thank you for my country liberating their country during the war.

Lemme guess, the beer is free but the glass rental is really expensive.

Thanks for the laughs bud

Germans, on the other hand, are still met with suspicion throughout Europe.

You're just pissed that successful German companies buy your only decent auto manufacturers and make them a helluva lot better.

You see Blackie, it's no different than needing more capable military, naval and air force personnel from the US and Canada in the WWs to whip you cowards into shape. Now it's the Germans that buy your companies for pennies on the dollar and then transform them into quality products

There are other threads for WW11 BS. Take your chest thumping over to them. This thread is about the Pepsi separatists. Take your pomp and poop over there.

What are Pepsi separatists?

 

[Blackleaf]

We would have preferred to stay out of the fight you picked

Germany was the aggressor during WWII. Your post is disgusting.

but Churchill kept begging and begging and begging....

My school taught me that Canada declared war on Germany just a week after Britain did because, despite the 1931 Statute of Westminster, many Canadian commentators at the time suggested that Canada was still bound by Britain's declaration of war as it was in 1914 because it had been made in the name of their common monarch.

Your school, however, taught you that the British "begged and begged" for Canadian help during the war.

Thank god I went to a British school and taught the truth, rather than a Canadian school and taught romanticised hogwash, that's all I say.

we Canadians were highly embarrassed on your behalf

Were you "embarrassed on our behalf" or, as I suspect, are you making that up?

The British were fighting fascism in the name of freedom and democracy. There was nothing for us to be "embarrassed" about.

You see Blackie, it's no different than needing more capable military, naval and air force personnel from the US and Canada in the WWs to whip you cowards into shape. Now it's the Germans that buy your companies for pennies on the dollar and then transform them into quality products

At least Britain has made good cars, which is a more than can be said of the US and Canada.

 

[EagleSmack]

At least Britain has made good cars, which is a more than can be said of the US and Canada.

Now you are just being idiotic.

 

[captain morgan]

Germany was the aggressor during WWII. Your post is disgusting.

Hmmmm.. PM Chamberlain and Britain's Policy of Appeasement.

You should be ashamed of yourself for even pretending to 'fight fascism'... You were appaerently more than happy to throw other Europeans under the bus when it was convenient

My school taught me that Canada declared war on Germany just a week after Britain did because, despite the 1931 Statute of Westminster, many Canadian commentators at the time suggested that Canada was still bound by Britain's declaration of war as it was in 1914 because it had been made in the name of their common monarch.

Churchill came to Canada cap-in-hand and begged... Started crying at one point so I'm told

Were you "embarrassed on our behalf" or, as I suspect, are you making that up?

.. Nope, it was watching the unholy beating that the Germans were visiting upon certain people

At least Britain has made good cars, which is a more than can be said of the US and Canada.

LOL.. Yeah, great cars, they just didn't run

Canadians are proud to be part of the NorAm tradition (read: an American initiative) of making cars that still cross the auction block daily for 100s of thousands of dollars.

One of these just sold of $130k USD just a few weeks back (even in a hard economy)

 

[Sons of Liberty]

The foremost military historian of our day was Sir John Keegan, highly reputable, he cited all his works with great accuracy and backed up all his claims. Humanity lost when he died last year.

Now what Blackleaf says is all British chest thumping; the UK can do no wrong type of thing, from the best food to the greatest military of all time past, present and future and everything in between!! :roll:

 

[tober]

And the reason for that was the Royal Navy's heroic actions during the Battle of the Atlantic, of which the US played no part.

Untrue. They played little part, but they played a part. They had escort carriers and put support groups into the North Atlantic for a short period.

Part of the RCN's problems was Brit leadership. Halfway through the war Canadian ships still couldn't get gyro compasses because the Brits claimed every gyro compass coming off the assembly lines. For that I blame navy brass. The upper RCN in those days was all RN trained and they sold us out - they and Ottawa policy makers. There were times back in the '50's when some RCN officers still walked around pretending they were Brits, affecting stupid mannerisms like wearing a hanky up their sleeves. I guess it was part of our growing pains. Those days are gone.

 

[JLM]

The foremost military historian of our day was Sir John Keegan, highly reputable, he cited all his works with great accuracy and backed up all his claims. Humanity lost when he died last year.

Now what Blackleaf says is all British chest thumping; the UK can do no wrong type of thing, from the best food to the greatest military of all time past, present and future and everything in between!! :roll:

The man's an idiot and waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off topic, now let's get back to Quebec & let him start his own thread (as I've already suggested) "How I won WW2".

 

[Blackleaf]

The USAF owned the Luftwaffe AND the Japanese AFs.

Rubbish. The USAF didn't even exist at the time.

And here's a question. When the last time that the United States and, for that matter, Canada, won a war when it was fighting its enemy on its own?

The British did it against Argentina in 1982, but when was the last time the US or Canada did it without having other nations' armed forces alongside them?

 

[tober]

Hmmmm.. PM Chamberlain and Britain's Policy of Appeasement.

You should be ashamed of yourself for even pretending to 'fight fascism'... You were appaerently more than happy to throw other Europeans under the bus when it was convenient.

You should read more history. Chamberlain did what you say, but when he was signing away Czechoslovakia he realized he'd been had. The Brit and French militaries were not then in a position to do anything about it. As soon as Chamberlain got back to Britain the War Book (there is such a thing - every nation has one) was opened and the Brit economy started producing for what they belatedly realized was inevitable. If it wasn't for his late awakening the invasion of Poland would have caught Britain with an obligation and no means to fulfill it.

The USAF didn't even exist at the time.

True!

Still, Hitler would have won without Canada on Britain's side. And the US.

The man's an idiot and waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off topic, now let's get back to Quebec & let him start his own thread (as I've already suggested) "How I won WW2".

He's a Yank, come to tell us how great he and fascist America are. Just smile and tell him to spend lots of money while he's here.

My school taught me that Canada declared war on Germany just a week after Britain did because, despite the 1931 Statute of Westminster, many Canadian commentators at the time suggested that Canada was still bound by Britain's declaration of war as it was in 1914 because it had been made in the name of their common monarch.

There is no "common monarch". That's pure Brit ego talking. Since 1931 Canadian external affairs have been independent of Britain, albeit closely allied. That Elizabeth II is "our" monarch is constitutional fact. Canada could legally declare war on Britain if it became necessary. Canada could have stayed out of both wars if we wanted. Britain could not have forced us to join WW1, and we'd have had the legal right to say no to WW2. "Commentators" do not make the law.

This is interesting. I haven't seen such outrageous, bloated limey ego in over 40 years. I wonder what brings it on? We sailed with the RN many times and there was never anything but the best of relations.

 

[Cliffy]

What are Pepsi separatists?

I'm intentionally being politically incorrect to make a point. Back in the days when I lived in Quebec, we called the French Pepsi's because that is what most of them drank while us privileged Anglos drank Coke.

 

[EagleSmack]

Rubbish. The USAF didn't even exist at the time.

OK... the US did not have an AF during WWII.

And here's a question. When the last time that the United States and, for that matter, Canada, won a war when it was fighting its enemy on its own?

The British did it against Argentina in 1982, but when was the last time the US or Canada did it without having other nations' armed forces alongside them?

Unfortunately for you... the US supported you there as well.

"The United States was concerned by the prospect of Argentina turning to the Soviet Union for support,[29] and initially tried to mediate an end to the conflict. However, when Argentina refused the U.S. peace overtures, U.S. Secretary of State Alexander Haig announced that the United States would prohibit arms sales to Argentina and provide material support for British operations. Both Houses of the U.S. Congress passed resolutions supporting the U.S. action siding with the United Kingdom.[30]
The U.S. provided the United Kingdom with military equipment ranging from submarine detectors to the latest missiles.[31][32][33] President Ronald Reagan approved the Royal Navy's request to borrow the Sea Harrier-capable amphibious assault ship USS Iwo Jima (LPH-2) if the British lost an aircraft carrier. The United States Navy developed a plan to help the British man the ship with American military contractors, likely retired sailors with knowledge of the Iwo Jima's systems.[34] France provided dissimilar aircraft training so Harrier pilots could train against the French aircraft used by Argentina."

And you beat Argentina.

That's like me bragging about Grenada and Panama. Which are two BTW. lol.

You FAIL AGAIN!

 

[captain morgan]

And here's a question. When the last time that the United States and, for that matter, Canada, won a war when it was fighting its enemy on its own?

We've never had to other than coming to pull your fat out of the fire when you bite-off more than you can chew. Other nations know better than to fukk with NorAm forces - they know that they'll be in for an azz-whoopin' if they even looked sideways at us.

You should read more history. Chamberlain did what you say, but when he was signing away Czechoslovakia he realized he'd been had.

If Chamberlain was naive about things, that is not my problem

I'm intentionally being politically incorrect to make a point. Back in the days when I lived in Quebec, we called the French Pepsi's because that is what most of them drank while us privileged Anglos drank Coke.

Thanks for the clarity... An interesting bit of info that I had never heard of.

 

[petros]

OK... the US did not have an AF during WWi!

Army Air Forces (AAF) but does that really matter?

 

[captain morgan]

And you beat Argentina.

Kinda like bragging about beating-up a kid that's in a wheel chair.

Most folks would be crowing-on about that kind of thing

 

[petros]

It's time to bomb Quebec with Lancs and B17s. Tally ho!

 

[s_lone]

Here's a good article that's actually about the OP...

Stephen Harper has partisan reasons for challenge to sovereignty bill: Hébert | Toronto Star

 

[EagleSmack]

Army Air Forces (AAF) but does that really matter?

Not at all.

 

[PoliticalNick]

The Royal Navy was bigger and more powerful than both of them.

Sure, when it defeated the Spanish Armada

Bull****. Without British actions and victories in Europe before America even entered the war, America wouldn't have been able to put boots on the ground in Europe to begin with, and neither would the Canadians.

The British cleared the way in Europe for the Yanks and Canucks to step foot on the Continent in the first place. America and Canada wouldn't have been able to put boots on the ground on Continental Europe had Britain not cleared the way for you to do so in the first place.

Your revisionism is becoming legendary! Canada declared war on the Nazis 3 days after Britain. We were there from the beginning. All those battles you talk about before the US entered involved Canada and Canadian troops fighting beside British forces. Don't let reality get in the way of your ego though, it is hilarious to watch.


Correction....it was 7 days later.

The Second World War[1] officially began on 1 September 1939, with the German invasion of Poland. Britain and France declared war on the Nazi Third Reich on 3 September 1939. Seven days later, on 10 September 1939, the Parliament of Canada likewise declared war on Germany, the country's first independent declaration of war[2] and the beginning of Canada's participation in the largest combined national effort in its history. By war's end, over 1 million citizens would serve in military uniform, and Canada would possess the fourth-largest air force and third-largest naval surface fleet in the world.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_Canada_during_World_War_II

 

[petros]

Sure, when it defeated the Spanish Armada


Your revisionism is becoming legendary! Canada declared war on the Nazis 3 days after Britain. We were there from the beginning. All those battles you talk about before the US entered involved Canada and Canadian troops fighting beside British forces. Don't let reality get in the way of your ego though, it is hilarious to watch.

This geezer needs to read some history.

The Battle of the Atlantic was the longest continuous military campaign[4][5] in World War II, running from 1939 to the defeat of Germany in 1945. At its core was the Allied naval blockade of Germany, announced the day after the declaration of war, and Germany's subsequent counter-blockade. It was at its height from mid-1940 through to the end of 1943. The Battle of the Atlantic pitted U-boats and other warships of the Kriegsmarine (German Navy) and aircraft of the Luftwaffe (German Air Force) against the Royal Canadian Navy, Royal Navy, and Allied merchant shipping. The convoys, coming mainly from North America and predominantly going to the United Kingdom and the Soviet Union, were protected for the most part by the British and Canadian navies and air forces. These forces were aided by ships and aircraft of the United States from September 13, 1941.[6] The Germans were joined by submarines of the Italian Royal Navy (Regia Marina) after their Axis ally Italy entered the war on June 10, 1940.

Notice How the Royal Canadian Navy is listed as the dominant Navy fighting the Kriegsmarine?

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