Harper predicts pain at gas pumps if Layton is in power

Unforgiven

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Martin has a track record, not a good PM but when it comes to financial management of deficit and debt reduction, he know what he was doing.
 

lone wolf

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now you are saying that the martin balance books caused the economic 'disaster' :)

please remember what the original point is.

No ... what I said was:
Not really. Didn't Martin have the books balanced before the Harper gang took over?

What I AM saying now is: If we hadn't been in a surplus situation, Harper's spending like a drunken sailor would have had us all that much MORE in deficit. It's not hard arithmetic....
 

Colpy

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I have dificulty respecting the opinion of somone who brags about spending 20 years taking orders on how to dress and how to think!

Right.

Disrespect someone who spent 20 years in service to their country.

And expect respect despite the fact they decorate the emblem of the largest political party of Canada with a Swastika.

Uh-huh.

Can you spell moron?
 

Machjo

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Right.

Disrespect someone who spent 20 years in service to their country.

And expect respect despite the fact they decorate the emblem of the largest political party of Canada with a Swastika.

Uh-huh.

Can you spell moron?

Not very respectful of the Hindu Faith, wouldn't you say.
 

Colpy

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No ... what I said was:

What I AM saying now is: If we hadn't been in a surplus situation, Harper's spending like a drunken sailor would have had us all that much MORE in deficit. It's not hard arithmetic....

Oh Good Lord! Everyone is crying about Harper's fiscal ineptitude, especially over the jets, at 30 plus billion over 20 plus years....

And cheering on Idiot Jack Layton, who has promised $70 billion in additional spending...........in 4 years.

Do the freaking math people!

Jack has promised a doubling of the CPP.........financed by a 2.5% increase in CPP taxes........

Do the Math people!

Jack, if given the chance, will do a job on the economy of this country the like of which has never before been seen.
 

Machjo

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Now if the Federal NDP should be more like the Manitoba NDP and maintains balanced budgets, then maybe I could trust it a little more. Of course we could be wrong and Layton does a good job, but i really hope so.

So whom do we turn to? The cut, borrow and spend Conservatives, the possibly fiscally responsible Liberals (as has been proven in the past at least with Paul Martin anyway), or the untested NDP? Hard to say. Our current Liberals are untested too. So essentially we have a choice between the proven inept and the potentially inept.

Just hypothetically here, I wonder what Canada would look like today if to pass any law involving a tax increase or spending cuts required a simple 50% + 1 vote in parliament, whereas to pass any law involving tax reductions or spending increases would require a 2/3 majority of parliament.

Suddenly both the right and the left would become more fiscally responsible would be my bet.
 

cranky

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No ... what I said was:

What I AM saying now is: If we hadn't been in a surplus situation, Harper's spending like a drunken sailor would have had us all that much MORE in deficit. It's not hard arithmetic....

I know what you were saying but you are jumping into a coversation after it had already started.

Someone else had already blamed harper for a worldwide economic disaster

So imo, your points are out of the scope of what is being discussed.
 

lone wolf

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I know what you were saying but you are jumping into a coversation after it had already started.

Someone else had already blamed harper for a worldwide economic disaster

So imo, your points are out of the scope of what is being discussed.
When did you happen to be appointed controller for if and when someone who is reading chimes in? Harper insisted there would be no recession and spent on his vision. It came anyhow - despite what anyone else could see. Is that about the jist of it?
 

Taxx

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When did you happen to be appointed controller for if and when someone who is reading chimes in? Harper insisted there would be no recession and spent on his vision. It came anyhow - despite what anyone else could see. Is that about the jist of it?
Most people openly said there is nothing to worry about, Harper is by far no the only one to say such a thing. Although banks/lenders said it wasn't going to happen because they just wanted more cash.
 

lone wolf

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Most people openly said there is nothing to worry about, Harper is by far no the only one to say such a thing. Although banks/lenders said it wasn't going to happen because they just wanted more cash.
When the US economy is faltering, ours does. I'm no economist by a long shot - but I saw it coming. Here's a great idea.... Vote for Me!
 

earth_as_one

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Which is why Canada should increase our capacity to move raw materials to the west coast and increase trade with China, India, Russia, and all the economies which are growing.
 

cranky

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When did you happen to be appointed controller for if and when someone who is reading chimes in? Harper insisted there would be no recession and spent on his vision. It came anyhow - despite what anyone else could see. Is that about the jist of it?
I am sorry, i did not mean to imply that you shouldnt join in. The problem was you out of scope comment was muddying the issue at hand, if we were talking about something else then your point may have been bang on but i doubt it because martin would not have balanced the 50 billion that he stole from the EI fund. With hindsight, that is 50 billion that was not here for us when the crap hit the fan. Kinda makes that much smaller surplus mention a few post back, kinda makes it look insignifcant
 

cranky

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Martin balanced his budget by downloading onto the Provinces - so I really don't give him much credit for the sleight of hand.
He created a small surplus by stealing from our soldiers and from our unemployed. Both areas where we could use more money
 

In Between Man

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I think a much better option is to stop sending our boys and girls off to war, which is the only reason we need fighter jets like the F-35. We need a leader who will take us out of the war monger clubs like NATO and the UN. Support our troops - bring them home!

Even though I don't exactly agree with you, I respect how you recognize the troops as people and think the best way to support them is to bring them home safely.

That's an opposing view I can respect. Thumbs up Cliffy. :)
 

Omicron

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Harper will not call it a pain if the purchasing power of people goes down ten cents per gallons while the price remains the same at the pumps.

I went to the royal family and offered them a robot to pretend it was them.

The Queen asked why we didn't use dogs in the caves.


She has access to the best tech.

You can kindly screw yourselves if you think I'm not going to work with William.
 
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Omicron

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In any case, I don't care if gas goes up by ten cents a liter, because it's still way cheaper than any place in Europe and you don't hear them complaining, plus it doesn't really affect me because I use public transit when I can, and if I need a car I just rent one, which means I save a tonne on annual auto insurance.