Hamas attacks Israel

Serryah

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The world has expectations of Israel’s humanity and condemnation if it doesn’t meet or exceed those expectations, but little of Hamas because…just because.

No.

It's because Israel should know better. Hamas does not, because it's existence is based in terrorism. Again, Israel should know better than what they're doing.

Oh, and Israel’s (& Palestinian’s) neighbours? “We stand in solidarity with Gaza, but we don’t want them.”

Yeah, been that way since day one.

Isn’t Jordan formed out of a chunk of Palestinian land to start with?

Sort of.

Jordan occupied and subsequently annexed the portion of Mandatory Palestine during the 1948 Arab-Israeli War that became known as the West Bank, including East Jerusalem. Bad Jordan! Bad! Get the spray bottle! Bad Jordan! pssssssttt!!

True.

All true.

And they still "don't want them".

Why do YOU think that is, Ron?
 

Ron in Regina

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No.

It's because Israel should know better. Hamas does not, because it's existence is based in terrorism. Again, Israel should know better than what they're doing.



Yeah, been that way since day one.



Sort of.



True.

All true.

And they still "don't want them".

Why do YOU think that is, Ron?
Terrorism? Political Instability that would be imported with those hiding in with Gaza refugees? Why import people who’s only goal (mixed in amongst any refugees) is to overthrow governments?

They balance that against humanitarianism and solidarity with Allah, weigh and measure, and…
 

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Terrorism? Political Instability that would be imported with those hiding in with Gaza refugees?

Both true.

Why import people who’s only goal (mixed in amongst any refugees) is to overthrow governments?

Well, only certain government - right now.

There's already Palestinians in Jordan and elsewhere, and they are not the 'overthrow the government' kinds.

You're blending Hamas to = Palestinians.

They balance that against humanitarianism and solidarity with Allah, weigh and measure, and…

Maybe; maybe it's more than that, or less.
 
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Terrorism? Political Instability that would be imported with those hiding in with Gaza refugees? Why import people who’s only goal (mixed in amongst any refugees) is to overthrow governments?
That's the rationale the U.S. used to forbid Jewish refugees from the Nazis from entering the U.S. That German agents could be inserted among the refugees.

We prefer not to talk about that.
 

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That's the rationale the U.S. used to forbid Jewish refugees from the Nazis from entering the U.S. That German agents could be inserted among the refugees.

We prefer not to talk about that.
Wouldn’t the Jewish refugees have pointed out the SS? They were still hunting them themselves for about 60 years? Would the Gaza refugees be pointing out Hamas to their new homelands & Gov’ts if they end up elsewhere other than Gaza?
 

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US fired missiles at Syria.

So far we have Israel, Palestine, Lebanon, Qatar, Yemen Russia, US and Iran involved in related instances.

The Chinamen sent their Navy to the region.

This is it.
The NWO and the Dems need a hot war in 2024 to keep the Global dream alive and the Dems playing the percentage of winning a second term.
 

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Wouldn’t the Jewish refugees have pointed out the SS?

Not likely unless they knew them personally.

They were still hunting them themselves for about 60 years?

Yeah, even when some were in 'plain sight'... supposedly?

I mean, look at the supposed Nazi who hit Parliament... why wasn't he snagged?

(because he wasn't a "real" Nazi maybe?)

Would the Gaza refugees be pointing out Hamas to their new homelands & Gov’ts if they end up elsewhere other than Gaza?

Hard to tell, maybe, maybe not? Considering most Palestinians outside Gaza/West Bank and Israeli's usually get along (until something like this happens), likely they would say something.
 

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Yeah, even when some were in 'plain sight'... supposedly?

I mean, look at the supposed Nazi who hit Parliament... why wasn't he snagged?

(because he wasn't a "real" Nazi maybe?)
I don't believe they tried everybody who fought for Germany in WWII. Just those that committed atrocities or war crimes. Everybody who fought for the Germans in WWII was a Nazi by definition however.
 

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Wouldn’t the Jewish refugees have pointed out the SS? They were still hunting them themselves for about 60 years? Would the Gaza refugees be pointing out Hamas to their new homelands & Gov’ts if they end up elsewhere other than Gaza?
If every German knew every other German, I imagine so.

But it hardly matters. They didn't want a reason, they wanted an excuse.
 

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That's the rationale the U.S. used to forbid Jewish refugees from the Nazis from entering the U.S. That German agents could be inserted among the refugees.

We prefer not to talk about that.
Much the same logic? was used to confiscate fishboats from Japanese citizens and ship them far from the coast. The few that I had the privilege of knowing in my younger years hated the Emperor much more than any white citizen possibly could.
 
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Wouldn’t the Jewish refugees have pointed out the SS? They were still hunting them themselves for about 60 years? Would the Gaza refugees be pointing out Hamas to their new homelands & Gov’ts if they end up elsewhere other than Gaza?
That would depend on how much they fear retaliation from the rest of Hamas. We are not dealing with rational people. More like medieval age fanatics with modern weapons.
 
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I don't believe they tried everybody who fought for Germany in WWII. Just those that committed atrocities or war crimes. Everybody who fought for the Germans in WWII was a Nazi by definition however.
Not just definition. They all belonged to the Nazi party. Not like they had any choice in the matter, it was much like not belonging to the communist party in Stalin's Russia.
 
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I don't believe they tried everybody who fought for Germany in WWII. Just those that committed atrocities or war crimes. Everybody who fought for the Germans in WWII was a Nazi by definition however.

So - yes this is sidetracking things - the guy who went to Parliament, he fought for Ukraine, not Germany. Germany just happened to be the military force he joined to fight Russia.

Would that make him a Nazi? Since Ukraine doesn't recognize people like him as being Nazi's or for fighting for Germany... is our "opinion" on the matter more legitimate/right than theirs?
 
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So - yes this is sidetracking things - the guy who went to Parliament, he fought for Ukraine, not Germany. Germany just happened to be the military force he joined to fight Russia.

Would that make him a Nazi? Since Ukraine doesn't recognize people like him as being Nazi's or for fighting for Germany... is our "opinion" on the matter more legitimate/right than theirs?
He fought with the Nazi's. I guess technically he himself was not a Nazi.
 
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Not just definition. They all belonged to the Nazi party. Not like they had any choice in the matter, it was much like not belonging to the communist party in Stalin's Russia.

Not everyone who fought for/with Germany belonged to the Party though.