Half of Canadians Want Refugees Deported

bluebyrd35

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Moving the goal post yet again I see. It is such a joy to see you flounder.

Trudeau welcomed and invited them and they're coming. I've proven that Canada is keeping this man's family separated from him.

Calls to end policy that blocks child refugees in Canada from reuniting with parents

http://globalnews.ca/news/4302957/calls-end-policy-blocks-child-refugees-reuniting-parents/

Feel that?

The Trudeau government celebrates diversity by telling migrants who aren't white to not come to Canada.

Meanwhile migrants to Canada are sitting in detention centers as are Canadian children.

Actually... my ancestors LEGALLY migrated from Canada to the US.

BOOM! Feel that sting!!!
Still having problems I see between migrants and immigrants and between legal immigrants and refugees, and illegal and legal refugees. Also Illegal migrants and legal refugees. I dodm't move the goal posts, YOU never understood where they are in the first place.

LOL A sting? Nah ,,,,,,Relief more like!
 

spilledthebeer

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Still having problems I see between migrants and immigrants and between legal immigrants and refugees, and illegal and legal refugees. Also Illegal migrants and legal refugees. I dodm't move the goal posts, YOU never understood where they are in the first place.

LOL A sting? Nah ,,,,,,Relief more like!


LIE-beral discussion of "Maximum Canada" equals Maximum Distraction from real issues for LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals make it VERY CLEAR on a daily basis that they HAVE NO INTENTION of discussing ANY of the issues that ordinary Cdns think are important and relevant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Here is yet another article illustrating just how careless LIE-berals are of public safety and justice issues. With some comments of my own in brackets):

Fear on the farm in Beiseker, Alta., after thefts raise safety concerns

Calgary Herald. By Yolande Cole. March 14/2018

As rural crime rates remain in the spotlight in Alberta, Beiseker-area farmer Howard Hixt is one of the latest residents to raise concerns about theft in his community.

RCMP are investigating after Hixt’s tractor was stolen over the weekend. It was the second time his family has had to file a police report, after his parents’ house in the area was broken into a few weeks ago.

“Somebody pried open the deadbolt on their front door and they had quite a bit of their possessions out of their house taken, so it’s getting to be kind of a concern in an area that we thought was safe for raising our family,” said Hixt.

Hixt, 44, added that since taking over his grandfather’s farm after graduating from university, this is the first time they’ve had farm equipment stolen.

“We’ve never had anything like this happen,” he said. “It seems like it’s something that’s getting out of hand in our community.”

He noted that a year ago, friends of theirs had their home broken into while one of the residents was at home having a nap.

“It’s a safety concern for us, our neighbours, our friends,” he said.

Beiseker RCMP Sgt. Norm Mercier said Mounties have been encouraging residents to call in any suspicious activities, vehicles or people.

(It is tempting to blame this epidemic of thefts from farms on natives - and there certainly have been a number of high profile shootings of native thieves caught by aggrieved white property owners- but I point out that Ontari-owe went through a phase where thefts of materials and construction equipment from housing sites was quite common. Shall we assume that the thieves who used to prey on Ontari-owe construction companies have moved on to other less well guarded sites?)

While there may be a perception that police can’t do anything in certain situations, “that’s not true,” he said.

(Yeah- making a report to cops after valuables are stolen is helpful in getting a faster settlement from your insurance company- and nets you higher premiums as well- so some good news and some bad!)

Sgt Mercier noted accurate police statistics can lead to additional members and funding, and can allow analysts in the force’s crime reduction unit to come up with solutions for areas that are being targeted more frequently.

(Oh yeah- we have all seen how well Toronto Silly Hall is responding to the gangs shooting each other in the city! And mayor Jackass John the Sorry Tory has told us he will hire 200 new cops this year- but so far has only managed to find 20 in 6 months! Shall we ask if NOBODY wants to be a cop in LIE-beral dominated Toronto where the Radical White Haters hold sway?)

(And its too bad LIE-berals DO NOT WANT ACCURATE POLICE STATISTICS anyway!!!!! If they had such statistics it would put the LIE to long standing LIE-beral assurances that crime rates are DOWN and no new cops are needed!)

The provincial government announced a rural crime plan Friday that includes funding for 39 new RCMP officers, 40 civilian staff and 10 Crown prosecutors focussed on rural crime.

(Shall we ask what good more cops are if the LIE-beral hug a thug judges are practicing their usual catch and release crap? More cops operating under LIE-beral rules simply means the paperwork is expedited and thugs get bail SOONER!)

The announcement came amid continued debate about rural crime and how far landowners can go to protect their property.

(What is really needed here is some SERIOUS DETERRENCE in the form of harsh sentences for the drunken and drug addled PARASITES plaguing us! But LIE-berals will refuse such a solution for fear of losing votes and for fear of the cost of incarcerating thugs! LIE-berals have much better and more selfish uses for our gravy than paying bills for jailed criminals!)

Last week, more than 150 people gathered outside the courthouse in Okotoks to support Edouard Maurice, who is facing charges of aggravated assault, pointing a firearm and careless use of a firearm following an incident on Feb. 24 when he woke up to find two suspected trespassers rummaging through vehicles on his property.

According to Alberta RCMP Supt. John Bennett, property crime in rural areas has increased 23 per cent over the last five years. Offences include break and enters, vehicle theft, theft under $5,000 and possession of stolen goods.

(And yet LIE-berals blandly assure us that ALL crime is DOWN!)

Violent crimes, however, are down, he said.

“We understand completely that people feel vulnerable and frustrated,” said Bennett, who is in charge of a squad that focuses on criminals who appear to be behind a disproportionate number of calls.

(Yes- a Toronto cop who defied the rules and collected race based statistics about 25 years ago, concluded that black gang members represent a SMALL MINORITY in Toronto but they commit the great majority of crimes! The LIE-beral response to the cops numbers was to rage at the lack of respect for the rules- AND LIE-BERALS WERE UTTERLY SILENT ABOUT THE TRUTH THAT WAS REVEALED! LIE-berals also questioned the accuracy of the numbers- with the cop simply pointing out: “I looked at the mug shots- with black guys going in one pile and other races in other piles”!)

(LIE-berals DO NOT wish to discuss the utter failure of their vote buying immigration policy that has bought us a criminal underclass infesting our not so affordable housing and that criminal class and its family members regularly vote LIE-beral in exchange for facing LIE-beral hug a thug judges operating a WEAK legal system! Our legal system offer up LOTS of chances for plea bargaining in which major crimes become small ones and minor crimes are completely FORGOTTEN!)

(AS I have said before- crime is evolving and becoming more sophisticated- and LIE-berals are DELIBERATELY IGNORING THIS REALITY!)

Sgt Mercier is encouraging people not to take on intruders themselves, but to leave it to police.

“You never know how someone may react when confronted,” he said. “We don’t want to see anyone getting hurt.”

(REALLY? WE don’t want to see people get hurt? LIE-berals demonstrate how out of touch they are with Cdns- a good many of whom think that a would be thief would BENEFIT from spending a few days in hospital after being riddled with buckshot from an angry property owner- especially since LIE-beral hug a thug judges practising their catch and release crap don’t see any reason to the PUNISH THIEVING PARASITES!!)

Hixt said he knows rural residents who have set up high-tech security systems — a move he is considering himself, following the tractor theft.

“I guess we’ll just have to factor that into our expenses,” he said.

(Yes- the need for and cost of expanded personal security in a suddenly more dangerous world is just one more dubious gift from our LIE-beral overlords!)

— With files from Lauren Krugel, The Canadian Press
 

bluebyrd35

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LIE-beral discussion of "Maximum Canada" equals Maximum Distraction from real issues for LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals make it VERY CLEAR on a daily basis that they HAVE NO INTENTION of discussing ANY of the issues that ordinary Cdns think are important and relevant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Here is yet another article illustrating just how careless LIE-berals are of public safety and justice issues. With some comments of my own in brackets):

Fear on the farm in Beiseker, Alta., after thefts raise safety concerns

Calgary Herald. By Yolande Cole. March 14/2018

As rural crime rates remain in the spotlight in Alberta, Beiseker-area farmer Howard Hixt is one of the latest residents to raise concerns about theft in his community.

RCMP are investigating after Hixt’s tractor was stolen over the weekend. It was the second time his family has had to file a police report, after his parents’ house in the area was broken into a few weeks ago.

“Somebody pried open the deadbolt on their front door and they had quite a bit of their possessions out of their house taken, so it’s getting to be kind of a concern in an area that we thought was safe for raising our family,” said Hixt.

Hixt, 44, added that since taking over his grandfather’s farm after graduating from university, this is the first time they’ve had farm equipment stolen.

“We’ve never had anything like this happen,” he said. “It seems like it’s something that’s getting out of hand in our community.”

He noted that a year ago, friends of theirs had their home broken into while one of the residents was at home having a nap.

“It’s a safety concern for us, our neighbours, our friends,” he said.

Beiseker RCMP Sgt. Norm Mercier said Mounties have been encouraging residents to call in any suspicious activities, vehicles or people.

(It is tempting to blame this epidemic of thefts from farms on natives - and there certainly have been a number of high profile shootings of native thieves caught by aggrieved white property owners- but I point out that Ontari-owe went through a phase where thefts of materials and construction equipment from housing sites was quite common. Shall we assume that the thieves who used to prey on Ontari-owe construction companies have moved on to other less well guarded sites?)

While there may be a perception that police can’t do anything in certain situations, “that’s not true,” he said.

(Yeah- making a report to cops after valuables are stolen is helpful in getting a faster settlement from your insurance company- and nets you higher premiums as well- so some good news and some bad!)

Sgt Mercier noted accurate police statistics can lead to additional members and funding, and can allow analysts in the force’s crime reduction unit to come up with solutions for areas that are being targeted more frequently.

(Oh yeah- we have all seen how well Toronto Silly Hall is responding to the gangs shooting each other in the city! And mayor Jackass John the Sorry Tory has told us he will hire 200 new cops this year- but so far has only managed to find 20 in 6 months! Shall we ask if NOBODY wants to be a cop in LIE-beral dominated Toronto where the Radical White Haters hold sway?)

(And its too bad LIE-berals DO NOT WANT ACCURATE POLICE STATISTICS anyway!!!!! If they had such statistics it would put the LIE to long standing LIE-beral assurances that crime rates are DOWN and no new cops are needed!)

The provincial government announced a rural crime plan Friday that includes funding for 39 new RCMP officers, 40 civilian staff and 10 Crown prosecutors focussed on rural crime.

(Shall we ask what good more cops are if the LIE-beral hug a thug judges are practicing their usual catch and release crap? More cops operating under LIE-beral rules simply means the paperwork is expedited and thugs get bail SOONER!)

The announcement came amid continued debate about rural crime and how far landowners can go to protect their property.

(What is really needed here is some SERIOUS DETERRENCE in the form of harsh sentences for the drunken and drug addled PARASITES plaguing us! But LIE-berals will refuse such a solution for fear of losing votes and for fear of the cost of incarcerating thugs! LIE-berals have much better and more selfish uses for our gravy than paying bills for jailed criminals!)

Last week, more than 150 people gathered outside the courthouse in Okotoks to support Edouard Maurice, who is facing charges of aggravated assault, pointing a firearm and careless use of a firearm following an incident on Feb. 24 when he woke up to find two suspected trespassers rummaging through vehicles on his property.

According to Alberta RCMP Supt. John Bennett, property crime in rural areas has increased 23 per cent over the last five years. Offences include break and enters, vehicle theft, theft under $5,000 and possession of stolen goods.

(And yet LIE-berals blandly assure us that ALL crime is DOWN!)

Violent crimes, however, are down, he said.

“We understand completely that people feel vulnerable and frustrated,” said Bennett, who is in charge of a squad that focuses on criminals who appear to be behind a disproportionate number of calls.

(Yes- a Toronto cop who defied the rules and collected race based statistics about 25 years ago, concluded that black gang members represent a SMALL MINORITY in Toronto but they commit the great majority of crimes! The LIE-beral response to the cops numbers was to rage at the lack of respect for the rules- AND LIE-BERALS WERE UTTERLY SILENT ABOUT THE TRUTH THAT WAS REVEALED! LIE-berals also questioned the accuracy of the numbers- with the cop simply pointing out: “I looked at the mug shots- with black guys going in one pile and other races in other piles”!)

(LIE-berals DO NOT wish to discuss the utter failure of their vote buying immigration policy that has bought us a criminal underclass infesting our not so affordable housing and that criminal class and its family members regularly vote LIE-beral in exchange for facing LIE-beral hug a thug judges operating a WEAK legal system! Our legal system offer up LOTS of chances for plea bargaining in which major crimes become small ones and minor crimes are completely FORGOTTEN!)

(AS I have said before- crime is evolving and becoming more sophisticated- and LIE-berals are DELIBERATELY IGNORING THIS REALITY!)

Sgt Mercier is encouraging people not to take on intruders themselves, but to leave it to police.

“You never know how someone may react when confronted,” he said. “We don’t want to see anyone getting hurt.”

(REALLY? WE don’t want to see people get hurt? LIE-berals demonstrate how out of touch they are with Cdns- a good many of whom think that a would be thief would BENEFIT from spending a few days in hospital after being riddled with buckshot from an angry property owner- especially since LIE-beral hug a thug judges practising their catch and release crap don’t see any reason to the PUNISH THIEVING PARASITES!!)

Hixt said he knows rural residents who have set up high-tech security systems — a move he is considering himself, following the tractor theft.

“I guess we’ll just have to factor that into our expenses,” he said.

(Yes- the need for and cost of expanded personal security in a suddenly more dangerous world is just one more dubious gift from our LIE-beral overlords!)

— With files from Lauren Krugel, The Canadian Press
Spillthebeer
The Following part of your post is mildly informative........The rest is just plain ranting on your part, with not a modicum of thought on the cost or the results of the policies you are advocating. Smarten up!!


Fear on the farm in Beiseker, Alta., after thefts raise safety concerns

Calgary Herald. By Yolande Cole. March 14/2018

As rural crime rates remain in the spotlight in Alberta, Beiseker-area farmer Howard Hixt is one of the latest residents to raise concerns about theft in his community.

RCMP are investigating after Hixt’s tractor was stolen over the weekend. It was the second time his family has had to file a police report, after his parents’ house in the area was broken into a few weeks ago.

“Somebody pried open the deadbolt on their front door and they had quite a bit of their possessions out of their house taken, so it’s getting to be kind of a concern in an area that we thought was safe for raising our family,” said Hixt.

Hixt, 44, added that since taking over his grandfather’s farm after graduating from university, this is the first time they’ve had farm equipment stolen.

“We’ve never had anything like this happen,” he said. “It seems like it’s something that’s getting out of hand in our community.”

He noted that a year ago, friends of theirs had their home broken into while one of the residents was at home having a nap.

“It’s a safety concern for us, our neighbours, our friends,” he said.

Beiseker RCMP Sgt. Norm Mercier said Mounties have been encouraging residents to call in any suspicious activities, vehicles or people.



AWWK the heat has finally gotten to. Sorry folks Iost my mind & quoted the whole load of garbage!
 
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spilledthebeer

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The Following part of your post is mildly informative........The rest is just plain ranting on your part, with not a modicum of thought on the cost or the results of the policies you are advocating. Smarten up!!


Fear on the farm in Beiseker, Alta., after thefts raise safety concerns

Calgary Herald. By Yolande Cole. March 14/2018

As rural crime rates remain in the spotlight in Alberta, Beiseker-area farmer Howard Hixt is one of the latest residents to raise concerns about theft in his community.

RCMP are investigating after Hixt’s tractor was stolen over the weekend. It was the second time his family has had to file a police report, after his parents’ house in the area was broken into a few weeks ago.

“Somebody pried open the deadbolt on their front door and they had quite a bit of their possessions out of their house taken, so it’s getting to be kind of a concern in an area that we thought was safe for raising our family,” said Hixt.

Hixt, 44, added that since taking over his grandfather’s farm after graduating from university, this is the first time they’ve had farm equipment stolen.

“We’ve never had anything like this happen,” he said. “It seems like it’s something that’s getting out of hand in our community.”

He noted that a year ago, friends of theirs had their home broken into while one of the residents was at home having a nap.

“It’s a safety concern for us, our neighbours, our friends,” he said.

Beiseker RCMP Sgt. Norm Mercier said Mounties have been encouraging residents to call in any suspicious activities, vehicles or people.



AWWK the heat has finally gotten to. Sorry folks Iost my mind & quoted the whole load of garbage!




Oh poor foolish bluebyrd- its NOT the heat that has "gotten" to her!!!!!!!


It is trying to offer up some sensible defense of LIE-beral policy that she is having trouble with!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And yes silly bluebyrd -we ARE ALL AWARE that cops are acting under orders of LIE-berals who insist we phone the cops when trouble comes to our door!!!!


The little detail bluebyrd brain is IGNORING is that it is NOT LIE-berals whose property is being STOLEN!!!!


It is not LIE-berals whose lives are being pillaged by drugged up idiots!


It is not LIE-berals who are paying the soaring insurance premiums for lost gear!!


In short- bluebyrd is demonstrating why she should GIVE UP commenting on political matters that she CLEARLY does not understand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

EagleSmack

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Still having problems I see between migrants and immigrants and between legal immigrants and refugees, and illegal and legal refugees. Also Illegal migrants and legal refugees. I dodm't move the goal posts, YOU never understood where they are in the first place.

LOL A sting? Nah ,,,,,,Relief more like!

Wow, I must say, your incoherent babble is a useful tactic in deflection... for some. Perhaps it is the sting you are feeling that is making your posts simply bizarre and void of meaning.
 

bluebyrd35

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This is how each of those terms are used internationally by the world ( which it seems you seemingly are determined not to understand.)

The word “migrant” is being used in place of “immigrant.” A migrant is a person who moves from one place to another within a country. Migrants, for instance,came to California from Oklahoma and Texas in the early 1940s. An immigrant is a person who moves from one country from another. I explained the difference between legal and illegal immigrants.

The fundamental difference between a refugee and an immigrant is that refugees feel the need to flee their homes, whereas immigrants have more of a choice. ... Another group of people immigrate out of necessity—because a climate disaster has recently displaced them.

Definition: Refugees are people fleeing armed conflicts or persecution. There were 19,5 million of them worldwide at the end of 2014 according to UNHCR. Their situation is so perilous that they cross national borders to seek safety in nearby countries and become recognised as refugees with access to assistance from states and aid organisations. Refugees by definition are legal up UNTIL a country decides their claim of fleeing for their lives or from climate or torture is valid.

An important piece of this is that refugees are protected by international law, specifically the 1951 Refugee Convention. But even the terms refugee and asylum seeker are often confused.

Definition: An asylum seeker is someone who claims to be a refugee but whose claim hasn’t been evaluated. This person would have applied for asylum on the grounds that returning to his or her country would lead to persecution on account of race, religion, nationality or political beliefs.

Someone is an asylum seeker for so long as their application is pending. So not every asylum seeker will be recognised as a refugee, but every refugee is initially an asylum seeker. This is where the definition between legal or illegal comes into play.

Spiltbeer.... can you not get glasses for help with your eyesight problem??
 
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Danbones

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Speaking of problems, you commienaziglobalists certainly are that:


Europe Wanted Migrants Stopped. Now Some Are Being Sold as Slaves.



LONDON — African migrants in Libya face “unimaginable horrors,” the United Nations human rights commissioner declared. “Despicable,” the chairman of the African Union called their treatment. Several African countries recalled ambassadors in protest. Rwanda offered the migrants assistance.

The mid-November broadcast by CNN showing what was described as African migrants being auctioned off at a Libyan slave market — for as little as $100 each, at black-market exchange rates — has set off an international firestorm. The response from the European Union, however, has been notably muted.

That may partly reflect the gratification among European Union officials over Italy’s success at reducing the influx of migrants across the Mediterranean. Italy has been helping Libyans stop them at sea or keep them in Libya, despite the dangers they face there.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/30/world/africa/slave-market-libya-european-migrants.html

Well boot ( we came we saw, he died...cackle cackle cackle...) hillary and obomber at work again, Eh?...
;)
effin stinkers really effed it all right up, didn't ewe?
 

DaSleeper

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Wow, I must say, your incoherent babble is a useful tactic in deflection... for some. Perhaps it is the sting you are feeling that is making your posts simply bizarre and void of meaning.


You're right Eagle...
The proof below..


But she is right about "Can't hold his beer"



This is how each of those terms are used internationally by the world ( which it seems you seemingly are determined not to understand.)

The word “migrant” is being used in place of “immigrant.” A migrant is a person who moves from one place to another within a country. Migrants, for instance,came to California from Oklahoma and Texas in the early 1940s. An immigrant is a person who moves from one country from another. I explained the difference between legal and illegal immigrants.

The fundamental difference between a refugee and an immigrant is that refugees feel the need to flee their homes, whereas immigrants have more of a choice. ... Another group of people immigrate out of necessity—because a climate disaster has recently displaced them.

Definition: Refugees are people fleeing armed conflicts or persecution. There were 19,5 million of them worldwide at the end of 2014 according to UNHCR. Their situation is so perilous that they cross national borders to seek safety in nearby countries and become recognised as refugees with access to assistance from states and aid organisations. Refugees by definition are legal up UNTIL a country decides their claim of fleeing for their lives or from climate or torture is valid.

An important piece of this is that refugees are protected by international law, specifically the 1951 Refugee Convention. But even the terms refugee and asylum seeker are often confused.

Definition: An asylum seeker is someone who claims to be a refugee but whose claim hasn’t been evaluated. This person would have applied for asylum on the grounds that returning to his or her country would lead to persecution on account of race, religion, nationality or political beliefs.

Someone is an asylum seeker for so long as their application is pending. So not every asylum seeker will be recognised as a refugee, but every refugee is initially an asylum seeker. This is where the definition between legal or illegal comes into play.

Spiltbeer.... can you not get glasses for help with your eyesight problem??
 

EagleSmack

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This is how each of those terms are used internationally by the world ( which it seems you seemingly are determined not to understand.)

In other words... you are trying to deflect by posting definitions. Doing so allows you to avoid addressing the illegal immigration crisis that Canada is facing.
 

spilledthebeer

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In other words... you are trying to deflect by posting definitions. Doing so allows you to avoid addressing the illegal immigration crisis that Canada is facing.


Yes- deflecting arguments by changing the subject is a method dear to LIE-beral hearts!


LIE-berals are also fond of changing terminology on a regular basis as a way of "virtue signalling" their alleged moral superiority! By demonstrating a facility with the latest terminology- airheads like bluebyrd demonstrate their sense of moral

superiority over other people who are- as LIE-berals see it- proven as less advanced because they argue with LIE-beral policy and do not know the "proper terminology!


George Orwell wrote about this LIE-beral habit!!!! Consider:


Here is a nice little story from Toronto Sun explaining why and how LIE-berals are making the ugly political climate of the infamous George Orwell novel Brave New World come true for us. And I have included a few comments of my own in brackets):

The 'duckspeak' of climate change. Tom Harris, Guest columnist in Toronto Sun. First posted: Friday, June 03, 2016 05:44 PM EDT

Wynne’s climate change strategy rewards big business while punishing average Ontarians We hear it all the time: “Climate change is real”, “97% of experts agree”, “we must increase our use of green energy to reduce carbon pollution”.

But it is all “duckspeak”, precisely what George Orwell warned us about in his novel 1984. Duckspeak was a form of speech consisting entirely of words and phrases approved by the controlling party in Orwell’s disturbing vision of a dystopian future.

Someone who had mastered duckspeak could fire off ideologically pure assertions like bullets from a machine gun, without thinking, their words emanating from their larynx like the quacking of a duck.

Being called a duckspeaker was a compliment in 1984 since it indicated one was well-versed in the official language and views of the state. We are now in an era of climate change duckspeak.

Rather than being merely ridiculous or social satire, the purpose of climate duckspeak is ominous: To convince opinion leaders and the public to think about climate change only as the government and eco-activists want. To support alternative points of view is “climate change denial”, today’s version of thought crime, punishable by excommunication from responsible citizenry.

(I point out that the LIE-beral `carbon crap and trade` program is exactly like the now disgraced European `crap and trade` model! The E.U. crap and trade allowed for shameless price gouging, rigged stock markets with insider trading of valuable carbon `credits` given out for free by govts to their pals, left fiscal loopholes that were exploited by unscrupulous stock traders working with organized crime-AND failed to clean the air as those people and industries that had the biggest carbon foot prints were EXCUSED from cutting back by govts seeking to curry favour!)

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau sets the stage for climate change duckspeakers by repeatedly asserting, “climate change is real.” Trudeau’s claim is correct but trivial. It is the duckspeak equivalent of proclaiming “sunrise is real”. But Trudeau is employing a strategy right out of 1984.

His statements imply that experts have concluded that unusual climatic events are happening because of humanity, and that government must save us.

U.S. President Barack Obama does the same, asserting in the Cutting Carbon Pollution in America section of the White House web site: “I refuse to condemn your generation and future generations to a planet that’s beyond fixing.”

Referring to greenhouse gases (GHG) as “carbon pollution,” as both Obama and the Canadian government do regularly, is pure duckspeak.

“Carbon pollution” conjures up subconscious images of dark and dangerous emissions of soot.

But what they are almost always discussing is carbon dioxide (CO2). But were they to call it that, most people would be unconcerned, remembering from grade school that CO2 is a trace gas essential for plant photosynthesis.

So government and climate campaigners mislabel it as “carbon” to frighten the public and discourage critical thinking, closely following Big Brother’s strategy in Orwell’s classic.

Similarly, Trudeau and Obama err when they refer to low CO2 emitting energy sources as “clean” or “green” since CO2 isn’t unclean.

But the label promotes an image of environmental wholesomeness, hiding the ineffective and damaging nature of many alternative energy sources.

(I point out that here in Ontari-owe where LIE-beral govt has committed to buying every volt of green energy produced in the province-AHEAD of any other form of generation-we now MUST keep a pack of natural gas fueled generating plants fired up and ready-24 hours a day-seven days a week to be ready at a moments notice to take over from green energy when the sun goes behind a cloud or when the wind does not blow as planned. The grossly costly LIE-beral green energy plan has NOT cleaned our air-but it HAS cleaned our wallets and provided windfall profits to those mostly civil service Hogs and great LIE-beral pals that own wind mills and solar farms-while at the same time subjecting people in the countryside-farmers and such to towering eye sores that emit irritating noises that can make people ILL!)

(Govt has turned rural people into lab rats with this noise issue-and a TVO documentary has illustrated the probable scale and scope of deception regarding that noise-TVO played a documentary from England re a wind farm that was sued and the medical information used to dismiss the claims of the frantic neighbouring land owners was based on readings from a wind tower ONE THIRD the size of the one planted near their house! Yes-the test model used by researchers was MUCH SMALLER AND FARTHER AWAY than the unit being complained about-and judge IGNORED these incorrect measurements and dismissed the complaints- talk about the GOVT FIX being in! One wonders if the judge had stock in that wind farm?)

Finally, the “97% of experts agree” phrase is designed to suppress debate. After all, who would dare contest experts about such a complicated issue?

But appealing to authority or consensus is a logical fallacy that proves nothing about nature. Regardless, the surveys used to back up the consensus argument are unconvincing.

They either asked the wrong questions, or asked scientists who don’t research the causes of climate change, or polled mostly those who would obviously agree with the government.

It is not surprising, then, that language tricks like Orwell’s duckspeak are being used today to justify the unjustifiable in the war of words over global warming.

Tom Harris is executive director of the Ottawa-based International Climate Science Coalition, which opposes the hypothesis carbon dioxide emissions from human activities are known to cause climate problems.

(I say Harris makes some good points about LIE-beral duck speak on the subject of environment and I point out that for most people the debate on climate change has MUCH MORE to do with how to cut back on green house gases-and the great majority of us recognize that NONE of the current LIE-beral initiatives will do ANYTHING to clean the air-it will ONLY BE OUR WALLETS that are cleaned! LIE-berals are treating climate change issues as a grand excuse to set up a HUGE CARBON SLUSH FUND they can dip into as necessary for MORE GRAVY!)

(The quickest way to cut back on green house gases is to cut back on Hog gravy! IN the 9 months after the 9/11 terror attack-during which time 25 percent of the worlds airline fleet was grounded-there WAS a MEASURABLE IMPROVEMENT IN AIR QUALITY! Airplanes produce 75-85 percent of ALL pollution related to transportation-that means that ALL the pollution emitted by cars, trains, trucks buses and ships represents ONLY a FRACTION of the filth spewed by airplanes! Cut back on Hog gravy and they will fly less-AND CLEAN THE AIR while we balance our govt books in the process!)

(It seems obvious that we need to burn less fossil fuel-the problem is how to get it done WITHOUT destroying our economy and rendering millions of people homeless and unemployed! Radical environmentalists use duckspeak just as much as LIE-berals because the radical environmentalists are loons who don’t care that their `solutions` to climate change may force us into miserable lives shivering in mud huts in the forest and eating our daily meal of Dandelion greens raw because the trees around us are sacred and NOT to be used for burning, cooking OR for building! Its an ugly set of selfish LOONS quacking at us-LIE-berals on one side seeking to set up a huge carbon slush fund for selfish reasons and radical environmentalists seeking to destroy our economy because they figure we humans do not deserve to dominate the environment as we do!)
 

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No one in their right mind wants refugees deported willy nilly……………………………….the Prime Minister perhaps! Why address one mistake by making what is potentially a second one. If justice was to be served the refugees would be allowed to stay and the costs billed to Mr. Trudeau's personal assets.