Gun Control is Completely Useless.

DaSleeper

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Quebec government wants it both ways, they are dissatisfied with Canadian law, but when their own supreme court verdict is not satisfactory they go crying to the SCOC.............
 

petros

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Quebec government wants it both ways, they are dissatisfied with Canadian law, but when their own supreme court verdict is not satisfactory they go crying to the SCOC.............
Where, this time at lest, ther is no grounds for an application. They're tres hooped.
 

Locutus

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Anti-Gun Crusader Gabby Giffords Stages Pathetic Photo-Op Of Her Firing A Gun…



What exactly is she trying to prove here?
Via NYDN:
Former Arizona Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords fired a gun Monday for the first time since she was shot in the head by a crazed gunman more than two years ago, it was reported Monday.

Giffords and her husband, former astronaut Mark Kelly, visited a shooting range in Las Vegas during the first leg of a whistle-stop tour to push a stalled legislative effort to expand background checks for gun purchases.

The still-recovering ex-lawmaker and her husband are longtime gun owners who keep firearms for recreational use. But Giffords and Kelly have become gun-control leaders since the January 2011 rampage at a political event in Tucson that wounded the Democrat and 12 others and killed six.

Giffords, wearing a green sweater and glasses, along with a brace on one of her arms, fired a black handgun as her husband looked on.

She smiled and pumped her fist afterward, footage from ABC News shows.

Keep reading…
 

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petros

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The White house likes guns. Why else would they buy over a billion rounds of ammo for HLS and 600,000 magazines for AK47s?
 

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FACT: Every two years more Americans die from firearm injuries than the total number of American soldiers killed during the 8-year Vietnam War. In 2003, the total number of people killed by guns in the United States was 30,136.

30,136. or very close, to a tenth of the total population of Canada

This post comes closer to the nub of the issue than the OP. The OP's comparison is unrealistic. American culture is inherently violent. Canada's is not. As to the issue that guns don't kill, that too is a cute, unrealistic play-on-words. It is the equivalent of saying that booze doesn't get people drunk, people get people drunk.

The Liberal gun bill was a bull**** property grab by elitist politicians and produced something that I had not seen in Canada before - mass civil disobedience. I am glad we disobeyed. We should have. OTOH should we have zero laws regulating guns? I used to think so but not any more. We regulate driving motor vehicles, so not regulating firearms makes no sense. The devil is in the details. America has mass amounts of gun laws, but because it is an inherently violent culture it also has a gun problem. Canada is not inherently violent and does not have a gun problem. We don't need a lot of gun regulation, especially not US type. However basic public safety rules don't necessarily offend me.

What offends me is the twisting and misleading police chiefs did on the gun registry. They told us that the gun registry must have been necessary because it was used so much. They don't say it was used so much because police procedure required it to be used even when no evidence suggested that it was necessary. Police chiefs must recognize that they are not elected leaders. They should not speak up from their official positions and attempt to influence political debate. We each get one vote plus are permitted to take private political positions. I don't want my cops using my tax dollars to tell politicians what laws to make. That is how police states work.

All IMO, of course.
 

Colpy

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This post comes closer to the nub of the issue than the OP. The OP's comparison is unrealistic. American culture is inherently violent. Canada's is not. As to the issue that guns don't kill, that too is a cute, unrealistic play-on-words. It is the equivalent of saying that booze doesn't get people drunk, people get people drunk.

The Liberal gun bill was a bull**** property grab by elitist politicians and produced something that I had not seen in Canada before - mass civil disobedience. I am glad we disobeyed. We should have. OTOH should we have zero laws regulating guns? I used to think so but not any more. We regulate driving motor vehicles, so not regulating firearms makes no sense. The devil is in the details. America has mass amounts of gun laws, but because it is an inherently violent culture it also has a gun problem. Canada is not inherently violent and does not have a gun problem. We don't need a lot of gun regulation, especially not US type. However basic public safety rules don't necessarily offend me.

What offends me is the twisting and misleading police chiefs did on the gun registry. They told us that the gun registry must have been necessary because it was used so much. They don't say it was used so much because police procedure required it to be used even when no evidence suggested that it was necessary. Police chiefs must recognize that they are not elected leaders. They should not speak up from their official positions and attempt to influence political debate. We each get one vote plus are permitted to take private political positions. I don't want my cops using my tax dollars to tell politicians what laws to make. That is how police states work.

All IMO, of course.

You will find very few people that want no control........except that control should be focused on people, not guns.

In my perfect world, we would have firearms licenses with background checks and safety training. Those licenses would be graduated, an A class for long guns not semi-auto, a B class for all long guns, a C class for target handguns, and a D class for civilian concealed carry, each class with its own regimen of training.

No registration.

No classification beyond overall length to separate long guns from handguns.

No idiotic magazine restriction.

All safe, simple, and effective.

Richmond rally supports more checks for gun purchases - Richmond Times-Dispatch: Central Virginia

Two things of note....

The reading of the lists of the dead includes people killed by police, and by civilians in self-defense.

The rally was HUGE....15 people. WOW!!! :)

You gotta feel bad for the Sandy Hook Dad though.........so sad.
 

petros

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In my perfect world, we would have firearms licenses with background checks
and safety training. Those licenses would be graduated, an A class for long
guns not semi-auto, a B class for all long guns, a C class for target handguns,
and a D class for civilian concealed carry, each class with its own regimen of
training.
Sounds good to me. Urban life is just as dangerous as it is for those who can open carry while working in the north dealing with bears and cats.
 

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"I have a very strict gun control policy: if there's a gun around, I want to be in control of it."
- Clint Eastwood"

"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."
- Sigmund Freud
"
An armed society is a polite society."
- Robert Heinlein


"There are no dangerous weapons. There are only dangerous men."
- Robert A. Heinlein




"But if someone has a gun and is trying to kill you ... it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun."
- Dalai Lama


"A woman who demands further gun control legislation is like a chicken who roots for Colonel Sanders."
- Larry Elder


" ... the right to defend one's home and one's person when attacked has been guaranteed through the ages by common law."
- Martin Luther King


"That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there."
- George Orwell


"Men fight for liberty and win it with hard knocks. Their children, brought up easy, let it slip away again; poor fools. And their grand-children are once more slaves."
- D. H. Lawrence


"Foolish liberals who are trying to read the Second Amendment out of the constitution by claiming it's not an individual right or that it's too much of a safety hazard don’t see the danger of the big picture. They're courting disaster by encouraging others to use this same means to eliminate portions of the Constitution they don't like."
- Alan Dershowitz