Gun Control is Completely Useless.

taxslave

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I am not trying to force anything on anyone, I am just looking on, shaking my head and wondering where all this is going. Gun up and run wild, *shrug* I think it is more than a step backward and I think human life deserves more than a split second thought while some armed fool blows them away because they feel it is their right.

None of that is happening by legitimate gun owners. Especially in Canada. The vast majority og gun crimes are perpetrated by criminals and nutbars. Neither group tend to obey laws.
 

DaSleeper

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I am not trying to force anything on anyone, I am just looking on, shaking my head and wondering where all this is going. Gun up and run wild, *shrug* I think it is more than a step backward and I think human life deserves more than a split second thought while some armed fool blows them away because they feel it is their right.


Maybe. But if you want to own and carry, you'd best come up with some saftey rules because they seem in short supply in the discussion here.
The safety rules are there for everyone to read...we have had them for years and the criminals don't follow them, ...another fact the antis conveniently forget.
Another game where the uninformed seem to be cheering for the criminal!
 

JLM

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Maybe. But if you want to own and carry, you'd best come up with some saftey rules because they seem in short supply in the discussion here.

99% don't need them, they carry, own and use guns with nary a problem! As far as the other 1% goes there should be some rules in regard to controlling them (the users).
 

Sal

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None of that is happening by legitimate gun owners. Especially in Canada. The vast majority og gun crimes are perpetrated by criminals and nutbars. Neither group tend to obey laws.
I have to be honest and say I really don't know what a legitimate gun owner is, why they own guns, how they store them or how many people in Canada are killed yearly by accident because a gun was not secured properly. I don't know why one human being would want to kill another either but it happens when people have access and anger and mental health issues and unresolved difficulties that they do not have the skills to cope with. I don't know guns but I do know a lot about psychology and human nature and they do not mix safely in my experience or opinion.

So I don't want to remove your gun from your home, I do want to know that you are competent to have it. And I do feel that right trumps your right to own it.
 

taxslave

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I have to be honest and say I really don't know what a legitimate gun owner is, why they own guns, how they store them or how many people in Canada are killed yearly by accident because a gun was not secured properly. I don't know why one human being would want to kill another either but it happens when people have access and anger and mental health issues and unresolved difficulties that they do not have the skills to cope with. I don't know guns but I do know a lot about psychology and human nature and they do not mix safely in my experience or opinion.

So I don't want to remove your gun from your home, I do want to know that you are competent to have it. And I do feel that right trumps your right to own it.

Again all you are doing is targeting legit gun owners. The criminals will just ignore the laws as they have always done.
My rifles are to hunt and to protect our animals from predators.I also have one shotgun that was my grandfather's and nobody has been brave enough to fire it since 1946.
 

petros

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Except most people are urban. Where I live, coyotes do come in so you have to watch your pets, because we have a lot of green pockets. I still don't need a gun.
You don't need a gun because somebody else has one and will shoot the coyote for you?
 

Sal

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Again all you are doing is targeting legit gun owners. The criminals will just ignore the laws as they have always done.
My rifles are to hunt and to protect our animals from predators.I also have one shotgun that was my grandfather's and nobody has been brave enough to fire it since 1946.
It is because the criminal element argument sounds irrational and illogical to me. I just don't see all that many criminals running around shooting up the place.

I don't see stats to back your claims on personal safety. I hear accusations about me wanting to do this or that and it is illogical and untrue. And it is these same people who want to bear arms...they can't even get a frigging fact right so how is that supposed to make me cave in a go...yeah, let's arm up...

I don't have a problem with some people owning guns for valid reasons, I DO have a problem with a yahooooooooooo mentality and somehow they are the vocal ones on sites that I have read and it chills me to the bone. I am more afraid of Fred next door with a 100 IQ and an arsenal because it is more likely to be Fred that accidentally frigging shoots me.

You don't need a gun because somebody else has one and will shoot the coyote for you?
No one here runs around shooting coyotes Petros.
 

petros

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It is because the criminal element argument sounds irrational and illogical to me. I just don't see all that many criminals running around shooting up the place.
So what's the problem? You can't go a night in my neighbourhood without hearing shots in the night. Should I just move and ignore it like many such as yourself do?
No one here runs around shooting coyotes Petros.

Of course not. You NEVER run and shoot. EVER!
 

JLM

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Actually taxslave, petros, et al, there is absolutely no use in trying to dissuade someone who is dead against guns, the entire concept is foreign to them - they live their own sheltered existance and will never understand in a million years!
 

petros

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Actually taxslave, petros, et al, there is absolutely no use in trying to dissuade someone who is dead against guns, the entire concept is foreign to them - they live their own sheltered existance and will never understand in a million years!
That's okay. If/when sh!t hits the fan, I'll still protect them and their homes with my weapons because I am the "somebody else with a gun".
 

Ron in Regina

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At 43yrs old (I think...I'd have to stop & count to be sure though), I've never shot
a coyote. I believe I'm in the minority though out here with the folks I know. I have
dispatched several hundred gophers, as with cattle (no chickens) that was our
issue.

I'm urban, with rural family & friends, so I don't own a gun and never have. Didn't
prevent me from shooting hundreds of gophers though. A brick of .22 shells is
much cheaper to a rancher than having to put down a single cow due to a gopher
hole.
 

CDNBear

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At 43yrs old (I think...I'd have to stop & count to be sure though), I've never shot
a coyote. I believe I'm in the minority though out here with the folks I know. I have
dispatched several hundred gophers, as with cattle (no chickens) that was our
issue.

I'm urban, with rural family & friends, so I don't own a gun and never have. Didn't
prevent me from shooting hundreds of gophers though. A brick of .22 shells is
much cheaper to a rancher than having to put down a single cow due to a gopher
hole.
That's why we must apply hackneyed solutions to largely urban issues to rural areas.
 

petros

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At 43yrs old (I think...I'd have to stop & count to be sure though), I've never shot
a coyote. I believe I'm in the minority though out here with the folks I know. I have
dispatched several hundred gophers, as with cattle (no chickens) that was our
issue.

I'm urban, with rural family & friends, so I don't own a gun and never have. Didn't
prevent me from shooting hundreds of gophers though. A brick of .22 shells is
much cheaper to a rancher than having to put down a single cow due to a gopher
hole.
I'm urban 80% of the year. If one of my bros or bros in-laws says "hey lets go shooting coyotes", I'll pretty much drop what I'm doing and go.
 

JLM

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It is because the criminal element argument sounds irrational and illogical to me. I just don't see all that many criminals running around shooting up the place.

It just takes ONE criminal or nutbar running around with a gun (or stick of dynamite) to screw up your whole day.-:)

That's okay. If/when sh!t hits the fan, I'll still protect them and their homes with my weapons because I am the "somebody else with a gun".

You old gunslinger, you!-:)

I'm urban 80% of the year. If one of my bros or bros in-laws says "hey lets go shooting coyotes", I'll pretty much drop what I'm doing and go.

Yep, confirmed gunslinger!-:)
 

JLM

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I'm not impressed with today's male. Emasculated wussies with zero testosterone.

I hear you Petros, but if I say much more one of our resident experts is going to jump out the woodwork and down my neck, so let's just say the work ethic isn't what it once was!
 

petros

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I hear you Petros, but if I say much more one of our resident experts is going to jump out the woodwork and down my neck, so let's just say the work ethic isn't what it once was!
Screw them and the pansy horse they rode in on. There wouldn't be woodwork without real men with dirt under their finger nails.