Gun Control is Completely Useless.
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The number of deep thinking, wiki influenced armchair philosophers abounds in a forum ..........
Really?? So, we do not have the right to safety in our homes, schools, churches etc?? Gee, and all this time I thought that is partially what we paid taxes for. Aren't they to support local and national police forces and our Armed Forces, so the average city and country dweller could count on a modicum of safety from roving bands of thugs. There is a great difference between the right to feeling safe from random attacks by goons with guns and an earthquake.
As for those stats, LOL I know the people in this neighourhood in Florida were not asked for an opinion. I have pointed out previously, that stats are skewed to suit whatever entity taking the poll wants it to.
What you are showing is that you have absolutely no grasp on the concept of rights.
A Bill of Rights is a restriction on the ability of government to control certain actions of its citizens.
Therefore there is a right to keep and carry weapons.
There is no right to be safe from them.
If there were a right to be safe, there would be NO liberty......none.
Oh, and the poll is a Gallup Poll. They are obviously in the grasp of the gun makers (insert rolled eyes here)
The number of deep thinking, wiki influenced armchair philosophers abounds in a forum ..........
Speaking for yourself, are you?? Myself, I prefer to read actual books for my information. I highly recommend E-books. They go most places easier than a hard cover or even a pocketbook and you are never short of reading material.
Your right to be safe is only as good as the people defending that right. Note that most criminals do not particularily care what you think your rights might be.
And your selective reading of only material that supports your opininion, makes you know better....of course...
What!! Not in Canada there isn't. We have the right to have a handgun if we register it and if we can prove it is a necessity. Hunting rifles fine. Hunting these days is generally considered a sport. Very few of those going hunting are dependent on it for their existence. Using a gun that fires multiple rapid rounds can hardly be considered a sport, can it?
Yes here in the US, there is one article in the constitution that does give those rights, but it was written during a time when the people were responsible for protecting their own town. It was originally designed to give such a right to a town's millitia. Does anyone really believe such a force is reasonable proposition today?? Regardless, we would still pay for local, state and national forces as well.
For every legitimate shooting, there are many more over this land everyday that aren't., The idea of armed guards in schools or teachers carrying guns while in class, is extremely twisted in my opinion. But then so is the notion of gaining fame by beating the last mass murderer's record by those with inadequate personality with access to the means to accomplish such acts.
LOL, Well let's see if we can do a bit of analysis on those 54 % for the NRA. Firstly, it means that 46% were against the NRA. Considering how local the average newscast is here, perhaps most of those asked hadn't a clue about what the NRA actually stands for. Perhaps it was done during a time when good feeling for the season was rampant or perhaps they just happened to hit more than 50% of those who hadn't a clue about the consequences of letting such an organization set the rules on weapons/guns!!
Anyway, tonight I will be hoping not to be struck by a bullet on it's downward route. There are still many around, who feel firing guns upward to celibrate the New Year is a good thing. Myself I prefer the town fireworks. Happy and safe New Year to everyone.
True but then buying a computer did very little for the pulp and paper industry either. One would have to go back to before the Industrial Revolution to stop progress through obsolescence.
How so?
Kid's don't derserve protection while at school?
We have cops (with guns) in our schools where I live and have for over 40 years.
What is negative about our cops (with guns) in schools program in Regina?
Actually, yes there is a limited right to keep arms in Canada. Check out the 1689 English Bill of Rights, and Section 26 of the Charter.
The Second Amendment has NOTHING to do with sport, and yes, an armed population is the best counter to tyranny there is, even in the 21st century.
According to the CLINTON era Department of Justice, guns are used in self defense almost a million times a year. 19 times out of 20, no shots are fired. Other surveys find defensive uses up to 2.5 million times a year.......
Guns and Self-Defense by Gary Kleck, Ph.D.
Considering the rabid, unreasoning attacks of the media on the NRA, I'm amazed 54% see through the lies and support the group. Go have a look at Huffington Post. There have been at least an article every day attacking the NRA. And no publishing of a counter-point whatsoever.
And you should look at the poll.........here it is again.
NRA Has 54% Favorable Image in U.S.
Only 38% have a negative view of the NRA.....7% have no opinion.
And a Happy New Year to you too.......
Obama “Skeptical” Guns In Schools Would Stop Another Massacre, Says “Vast Majority Of Americans” Agree With Him…
WRONG! Gallup found 64% of Americans agree with the NRA’s proposal to have armed guards in schools.
WRONG! Gallup found 64% of Americans agree with the NRA’s proposal to have armed guards in schools.
(Reuters) – President Barack Obama said in an interview broadcast on Sunday he hopes to get new U.S. gun control measures passed during the first year of his second term and is skeptical of a proposal by the National Rifle Association (NRA) gun lobby to put armed guards in schools.
Obama assigned Vice President Joe Biden to lead a task force to come up with proposals on guns at the beginning of 2013 after the massacre of 20 children and six adults by a gunman at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, this month.
“I’d like to get it done in the first year. I will put forward a very specific proposal based on the recommendations that Joe Biden’s task force is putting together as we speak. And so this is not something that I will be putting off,” Obama told NBC’s “Meet the Press” in an interview taped on Saturday.
“I am not going to prejudge the recommendations that are given to me. I am skeptical that the only answer is putting more guns in schools. And I think the vast majority of the American people are skeptical that that somehow is going to solve our problem,” he said.
Obama “Skeptical” Guns In Schools Would Stop Another Massacre, Says “Vast Majority Of Americans” Agree With Him… | Weasel Zippers
Obama assigned Vice President Joe Biden to lead a task force to come up with proposals on guns at the beginning of 2013 after the massacre of 20 children and six adults by a gunman at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, this month.
“I’d like to get it done in the first year. I will put forward a very specific proposal based on the recommendations that Joe Biden’s task force is putting together as we speak. And so this is not something that I will be putting off,” Obama told NBC’s “Meet the Press” in an interview taped on Saturday.
“I am not going to prejudge the recommendations that are given to me. I am skeptical that the only answer is putting more guns in schools. And I think the vast majority of the American people are skeptical that that somehow is going to solve our problem,” he said.
Obama “Skeptical” Guns In Schools Would Stop Another Massacre, Says “Vast Majority Of Americans” Agree With Him… | Weasel Zippers
Why am I suspicious that if schools were properly protected that they'd ('Mericans) appreciate it, enjoy the lower youth crime rate or not it bother them at all?
r is a good thing. Myself I prefer the town fireworks. Happy and safe New Year to everyone.
True but then buying a computer did very little for the pulp and paper industry either. One would have to go back to before the Industrial Revolution to stop progress through obsolescence.[/QUOTE]
Actually computers were the best thing to happen to the paper industry. In days of old people shared reports because copies were slow and expensive to make. NOw everyone just pushes print and has their own hard copy.
True but then buying a computer did very little for the pulp and paper industry either. One would have to go back to before the Industrial Revolution to stop progress through obsolescence.[/QUOTE]
Actually computers were the best thing to happen to the paper industry. In days of old people shared reports because copies were slow and expensive to make. NOw everyone just pushes print and has their own hard copy.
And facts and common sense beat ignorant paranoia again.
Let's grind the numbers.
There are 130 000 public and private schools in 'Merica.
Since most schools have students from 8:00 am to early evening or later (sports, extra- curricular junk, etc.), and some schools have large student populations (not large in size but rather number), a minimum of two resource officers (gunslingers) would be required per school.
Let's see..
2 x 130 000 = 260 000
Wow, that would reduce unemployment dramatically.
Each resource officer would require training, support, offices, uniforms, gear, and of course, a salary and benefits. Hmmm...
That's approximately $100 000 per officer per year.
Let's see...
260 000 x $100 000 = $26 000 000 000 per year.
A fiscal drop in the bucket... and if successful would guarantee a Democratic president elect for decades.
Let's see...
Per decade, that's $260 000 000 000 or half the Canadian debt.
There are 130 000 public and private schools in 'Merica.
Since most schools have students from 8:00 am to early evening or later (sports, extra- curricular junk, etc.), and some schools have large student populations (not large in size but rather number), a minimum of two resource officers (gunslingers) would be required per school.
Let's see..
2 x 130 000 = 260 000
Wow, that would reduce unemployment dramatically.
Each resource officer would require training, support, offices, uniforms, gear, and of course, a salary and benefits. Hmmm...
That's approximately $100 000 per officer per year.
Let's see...
260 000 x $100 000 = $26 000 000 000 per year.
A fiscal drop in the bucket... and if successful would guarantee a Democratic president elect for decades.
Let's see...
Per decade, that's $260 000 000 000 or half the Canadian debt.
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Which is why I have said from the onset the answer is carefully trained, background checked, and qualified volunteers from the school staff.
I agree with you, there has to be at least 2 or 3 teachers or more, in a school, who are capable of being trained and can
respond in a helpful way when called upon to do so, thus 'saving lives'.