Gun Control is Completely Useless.

spilledthebeer

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Yep, those qualify as "assault weapons" in my book.

And that refutes Colpy's claim. Thank you.

Though technically, Colpy said that the AR-15 design had never been used to kill in Canada. Technically true but irrelevant.




TYPICAL LAWYER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Just edit out facts that are awkward for you................................


by deeming them IRRELEVANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


HAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

spilledthebeer

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Falling back on "common sense" or the "will of Gawd" means you've run out of arguments.






Editing facts to AVOID TRUTH...................................................


is a favorite LIE-beral habit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


T-bonesforbrains = LIE-beral!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And too often: lawyer = liar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Curious Cdn

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Maybe it's time you started listening to some common sense instead of chirping your banal responses!
Arming the population is not a "common sense" approach to anything.

That's what this thread is about, Gomer.
 

Curious Cdn

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Compulsory gun ownership for everybody over 10 and let Darwin sort it out.
Let's extend that thought and say that every nation on Earth should be given an allotment of nuclear weapons and that will make this a safer world.
 

spilledthebeer

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So you are really just trying to tie him up in knots . Is that called trolling ?
OH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


SEMANTICS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Word games!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Is it TROLLING if the one being tied up is a WORSE TROLL..................................................


than the one doing thec tying up???????????????????????????????????


I know a guy who went back home to Texas with his wife a few years back...........................


after an absence of many decades......................................................


and of course the guy has been in Canada so long now....................................


that he has adjusted..................................


but there he was back in his place of birth...............................................


sitting in a bar with the wife.......................................



shaking his head and observing to his wife......................................


that "we are the ONLY PEOPLE IN HERE who are NOT ARMED"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He did go on to point out that fights in Texas bars................................


or any other place in the Lone Star State....................................


ARE RATHER RARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


GUNS ARE AN INHIBITING FACTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Any time you are in a situation where you are QUITE SURE.........................................


that PEOPLE WILL SHOOT BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



The BIG PROBLEM we Cdns have..........................................



is that OUR COPS are not allowed to shoot............................................


thanks to LIE-beral hug a thug judges!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And WE CITIZENS are not allowed to step up to defend ourselves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Thanks to those same LIE-beral hug a thug judges!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


MOST CDNS like the idea of our COPS doing the regulating.................................................


to bad LIE-berals think justice AND MERCY.......................


is ONLY FOR GANGS LIKE Lavalin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello,
Please stop wasting bandwidth with super size fonts in every reply. We understand that you, at times want to add emphasis on certain points, which is ok, but stop including the entire posts.

Thank you, Mod Team
 
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Let's extend that thought and say that every nation on Earth should be given an allotment of nuclear weapons and that will make this a safer world.


Well, not EVERY nation, but far too many of them have nukes. And it is getting worse.


But MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) works............until some real psycho decides to start WWIII.
 

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]Hello,
Please stop wasting bandwidth with super size fonts in every reply. We understand that you, at times want to add emphasis on certain points, which is ok, but stop including the entire posts.
Thank you, Mod Team

I wonder how much of the $600 million the Mod Team got?
 

Danbones

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Arming the population is not a "common sense" approach to anything.
That's what this thread is about, Gomer.
Yes, tell that to the half billion disarmed dead you have made already yorgie. That's a lot of murder to be an accomplice to bub.
 

spilledthebeer

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I wonder how much of the $600 million the Mod Team got?






That is a GOOD QUESTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But.........................full disclosure here...................................


I did let ONE POST get away from me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I snagged a CBC article illustrating just how many of our "leaders" have DOUBLE OR EVEN TRIPLE CITIZENSHIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yes- I was in a hurry- under the gun for various things.......................................


and did not expect the photos contained in the article to load to my post....................................................


and then I SIMPLY COULD NOT find out how to delete the photos from the post ..................................


without also deleting the text that I felt NEEDED TO BE SEEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So I ran out of time and decided SCREW IT.................................................


leave the photos in - which made for a LARGE POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And drew a little ire from the Mods................................


Oh well - those who actually read my posts will know that I VIRTUALLY NEVER INCLUDE photos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And I have now figured out how to edit out such photos............................


not all web sites are made equal and I dont normally have such a problem..............................


just a one off quirk in this case!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But you are QUITE RIGHT that LIE-beral loving news media IS HELL BENT ON CENSORSHIP...........................


of ALL DISSENTING VIEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



For instance - LIE-berals say IT IS A LIE that Toronto RED Star is getting $115 grand per week...........................


from that LIE-beral media SLUSH FUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


BUT THEY REFUSE TO SAY..............................


JUST HOW MUCH THE STAR IS GETTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

spilledthebeer

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Works in Switzerland. Their crime rate is much lower than ours.




Probably has more to do with NOT ELECTING idiot Boys like Justin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And NEVER having been foolish enough to elect Pierre Trudope............................


or Jean Chretien either!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


SIX TERMS in office between the two of them and no wonder the country is BROKE AND DIVIDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!














Here is an article illustrating yet again how POOR a job the LIE-beral hug a thug legal system is doing to protect us!! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Meat theft: The strange new crime trend taking over Winnipeg grocery stores

By Shannon Vanraes, McLean`s Magazine

Published: Sept 24, 2019

Some stores are hiring security guards and training staff to watch for suspicious behaviour—a challenge, because, well, there’s no stereotypical meat thief.

Munther Zeid pages an employee at one of his Winnipeg grocery stores and instructs him to bring the object Zeid keeps hidden on top of an old ice cream freezer to his office. A minute later, the young man returns with a metal baseball bat.

“Our friendly weapon,” says Zeid. “I’m not going to allow my store, my staff, to be threatened and lose all that money. I’m not a multi-million-dollar company that can afford stuff like this.”

The problem? A seemingly growing number of brazen thefts targeting meat, as well as cheese, at his five Food Fare locations. At some of his stores, staff foil as many as eight or nine attempted meat thefts in a day.

And he’s not alone: grocery stores across Winnipeg are struggling to deal with shoplifters targeting meat coolers, as well as organized gangs complete with diversionary tactics and getaway drivers.

This spring, someone tunnelled through the wall of an east end butcher’s shop—not to empty a vault, but to clean out the sausage counter.

(Apparently Vanraes is not well informed and does not know of the equally brazen LCBO thetfs here in Ontari-owe last winter- in which brazen thieves would go into local liquor stores, take stock off shelves and walk out without paying - and would threaten violence if confronted by staff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(The LIE-beral tie in is that Our idiot Boy Justin has told us- in relartion to the Toronto gun violence - “that we cannot simply arrest our way out of this problem” - but Our idiot Boy offers no other solution!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(And is it not ODD that once LCBO started putting paid duty cops into their stores - AND MADE SOME ARRESTS - the brazen thetfs of LCBO stock ENDED!! The LCBO experience makes mockery of Trudopes comments!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

RELATED: Quality wigs are in high demand—and prone to theft

(Yes- I know a teenage girl who was called as a witness in a Toronto case from 15 years back in which an organized gang used distraction to get around the high end clothing store staff where she worked - and the gang made off with a pile of stolen merchandise- fleeing in a conveniently locate d getaway car!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Such thefts have always occurred but it is only under LIE-berals that it has been re-classified from CRIME - down to minor nuisance - but this fits in with ALL LIE-beral policy on crime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(In order to save on legal costs - so LIE-berals will have more gravy for themselves- LIE-berals have been using Plea Bargaining to speed up the legal proceedings!! The problem is that LIE-berals have turned our legal system into an ineffectual JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(With plea bargaining, major crimes become minor crimes and minor crimes disappear entirely and then LIE-berals make mockery of sentencing with their early release crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(LIE-berals have completely gutted the legal system!! Thye do not punish inm order to deter, cannot rehabilitate in order to turn criminals away from crime and LIE-berals REFUSE to jail career criminals so they cannot continue their lives of crime!! LIE-berals offer NO SOLUTIONS because REAL SOLUTIONS might cost them money or votes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Our property and safety are SECONDARY to LIE-beral wants and convenience!)
Winnipegger Ed White was at his local Safeway store when he saw his first meat heist eight months ago. A man ran out the front door pushing an overflowing cart, but abandoned the meat haul when frustrated customers gave chase. A few months later, White saw the same scene unfold, only this time a van was waiting and the thief escaped.

“Then, a few months later, at the exact same Safeway, I saw three big guys steal a bunch of Safeway roast chickens,” says White. “It was pretty crazy.”

(The Toronto Sun did an article about several down town stores that were going bankrupt and closing up shop due to the wild raqsh of brazen thefts!! Drug addicts just walking in and grabbing stuff off shelves and running out to sell their stolen stuff for the next drug hit- and these small family businesses could not afford paid duty cops!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Or we could talk about the Toronto Lucky Moose Supermarket where the owner got so sick of the same addict grabbing stuff and fleeing on his bicycle that the owner arranged an ambush and caught the addict!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(The market owner had the addict tied up with duct tape in the back of a cargo van when cops showed up thanks to a tip from an ill informed neighbour who did not like the appearance of kidnapping!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(The store owner claimed at trial that he only planned to drive the addict out of town and drop him off - making it harder for the guy to rob his store!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Sadly the addict story turned out to be a black eye for LIE-beral legal eagles- the addict had 86 previous convictions for brazen thefts - all to support his drug habit -and in order to ensure the addict would show up and testify at the “kidnapping trial” he was granted immunity from the theft charges caught on security video right before being caught and stuffed into the van!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(This is LIE-beral justice at its finest- a brazen drug addicted moron gets coddled and an frustrated store owner who cannot afford repeated robberies is dragged into court to face kidnapping and assault charges for trying to deal with a thief that the LIE-beral legal system was IGNORING AND EXCUSING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

But the stolen meat isn’t being eaten—at least not by the those who steal it. Much of it ends up on the black market, either hawked to local businesses or sold online. Ryan Kochie, an administrator for the Buy/Sell Winnipeg Facebook group, knows the problem all too well.

“It was really bad in our group a year ago, but seems less frequent since we implemented some more monitoring and began asking for proof of purchase,” he says. However, those looking to fence stolen meat have hundreds of online options to choose from, including less scrupulous Facebook groups and sites like Kijiji.

(Restaurants dealing in meat from suspect sources is nothing new!! Over 20 years ago Toronto Red Star did an article exposing the illegal trade in improperly slaughtered meat for ethnic restaurants!! The Star described unlicensed butchers slaughtering animals in unhygienic conditions- and without having any govt inspection - with the meat being sold under the table to hide revenue and business activities from the tax man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(In another case, a truck driver delivering frozen chicken for various Walmart stores was waylaid at a Bowmanville truck stop And the robbery went badly and the driver was kidnapped at gun point- taken to a deserted field and shot in the head - and the thieves then made off with his load of $30,000 dollars worth of chicken - which they planned to sell at a local ethnic owned independent supermarket!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(After a MASSIVE AND COSTLY year long cop investigation - one gang member was arrested in his Quebec home - a second was arrested in his native India and the third guy vanished!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(IN related news- Toronto Star told us about 10 years ago that the AVERAGE defense lawyer in a murder trial gets paid half a million dollars - with a crown prosecutor getting at least that much again- so that trial alone with its tow defendants cost us at least $2 million dollars - then throw in a million or two more for the investigation on multiple continents and you have a TAX BIG BILL!!!!!!)

(Then of course we need to consider the $300 grand per year that it costs to jail such hard core killers and consider that it will cost MILLIONS just to impose the legal slap on the wrist that the killers are getting!! Many Cdns consider that the death penalty is not unreasonable for such cold hearted thugs!! But LIE-berals do not approve of DETERRENCE or of punishment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(But LIE-berals do not offer us any alternatives!! LIE-berals want us to be cowed and complaisant and enduring of outrageous garbage - for the sake of LIE-beral VOTE BUYING!! A more aggressive legal system would please many ordinary Cdns but would enrage many ethnic voters who belong to bigoted anti white groups like Black Lives Matter and Idle No More!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Property crime in Winnipeg is on the rise—theft under $5,000 rose 28 per cent over the five-year average in 2018, and 22 per cent the year before that, according to city police data. Shoplifting, in particular, has spiked: Winnipeg saw a 77 per cent increase last year in the theft of store merchandise under $5,000.

No one tracks how much of that is meat theft, and Zeid notes the phenomenon is not unique to Winnipeg. Still, he says, “it just seems like it’s more out of control here.”

Frank Cormier heads the University of Manitoba’s department of sociology and criminology, and—while he hasn’t studied the problem—suspects the explanation for it could be simple. “There are times where certain kinds of behaviour just kind of catch on,” he says. “Whether they’re legitimate behaviours or recreational things or criminal behaviours, that is a possibility. Someone hears about it being done and they think, well, seems like an interesting way to make a few bucks, maybe I’ll do that.”

(The reality we see is that such behaviour “catches on” when it is NOT OPPOSED in any real legal fashion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Meat is also a soft, untraceable, high-value target. Small electronics are high value as well, but Cormier notes they aren’t sitting in freely accessible coolers. That, however, is beginning to change.

Some Winnipeg grocery stores are engaged in target-hardening, putting high-value products behind counters, hiring security guards and changing store configurations. Trevor Houston, grocery manager at Sobey’s Cash & Carry in the city’s North End, says his location no longer carries small, easily concealable packages of meat, and closes two hours earlier than it used to on Saturdays to avoid what was a high-theft period. Staff are also trained to watch for suspicious behaviour—a challenge, because there’s no stereotypical meat thief.

(In other words- the cost of deterring crime has been dumped on store owners and on the general public - letting LIE-berals off the hook for their negligence!!!!!!!!)
 

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Probably has more to do with NOT ELECTING idiot Boys like Justin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And NEVER having been foolish enough to elect Pierre Trudope............................


or Jean Chretien either!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


One of Chretien's strong points was he never got overly excited or went off the deep end - pretty much the exact opposite of Trump and yet a lot of people bad mouth him too!
 

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One of Chretien's strong points was he never got overly excited or went off the deep end - pretty much the exact opposite of Trump and yet a lot of people bad mouth him too!
Well he did give that protester a Shawingigan hand shake . Or was that head shake ?
 

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One of Chretien's strong points was he never got overly excited or went off the deep end - pretty much the exact opposite of Trump and yet a lot of people bad mouth him too!




IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Chretien was minister of Indian Affairs under Pierre Trudeau!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Chretien HELPED get all the native land claims and Sovereign Nation CRAP started!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And Chretien spent so WILDLY that our Cdn dollar/northern PESO dropped to 63 cents U.S.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Chretien HELPED POISONOUS PIERRE TRUDOPE run the SECOND MOST COSTLY GOVT IN OUR HISTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And it was under Chretien that the LIE-beral ADSCAM OCCURRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


YOU RECALL THAT SURELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


THREE BILLION DOLLARS OF OUR TAX MONEY............................................


walked out of the Ministry of Human Resources in the dark of night.............................................


right past all the LIE-berals NOT STANDING ON GUARD FOR US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And all that money ended up being passed around in brown paper bags!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Chretien has MUCH TO ANSWER FOR............................................


AND NOTHING TO POINT TO AS REDEEMING VIRTUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!