Gun Control is Completely Useless.

JamesBondo

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Maybe, we don't have kids with AR-15s (and the rest of the family of similar arms) walking about, here.

That is what I said the last time someone wanted to register the dairy farmer's duckgun but the Cuckier-wannabes wouldn't listen.

We also don't have the NRA . Thank God.

yes. agreed. you need to point this out to your leftard friends.
 
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Colpy

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You can serve in our military at 17. I did it.

Yeah....and according to the US Code you are a member of the unofficial militia at age 16, if you are male.

I was trying to avoid giving Hoid a stroke.

You can serve in the military at 17 in the U.S. So much for that theory.

The NRA is not a civil rights organization, whatever that is.

Does not the Bill of Rights set out the rights of Americans?

From Wikipedia *Civil and political rights are a class of rights that protect individuals' freedom from infringement by governments, social organizations, and private individuals. They ensure one's ability to participate in the civil and political life of the society and state without discrimination or repression*.

If the NRA defends the Second Amendment, then it is a civil rights organization, the way I read it anyway.
 

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ON that veteran's home stand off thing the guy was a 36 year old Afghan war vet who had recently been kicked out of the PTSD program, came back armed to a going away party and killed three woman and himself.

Sort of like the American Sniper thing.

A lot of these guys are coming home broken.

Yep. They are.

They don't get the recognition they deserve.

As well, something I read by Lt. Col Dave Grossman spoke of the group of men with shared experience being the best counter to PTSD, that today, when men often come home and are released, or move often between units, that buffer is missing in too many cases.

I read Carol Off's "Ghosts of the Medak Pocket" about Canadians returning from Bosnia, and being immediately released and put on a plane home (mostly they were reservists) Their contribution was not even recognized for ten years. An immensely high number of them developed serious mental and physical problems.

But I digress.....and have nothing else to say.
 

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Yeah....and according to the US Code you are a member of the unofficial militia at age 16, if you are male.

I was trying to avoid giving Hoid a stroke.



Does not the Bill of Rights set out the rights of Americans?

From Wikipedia *Civil and political rights are a class of rights that protect individuals' freedom from infringement by governments, social organizations, and private individuals. They ensure one's ability to participate in the civil and political life of the society and state without discrimination or repression*.

If the NRA defends the Second Amendment, then it is a civil rights organization, the way I read it anyway.

There's no such thing as a "civil rights organization." Or rather, it's an undefined term. The Klan can also call itself a "civil rights organization."

One of the problems of Bill of Rights worship that Auslaender don't understand is that the very first thing you do is cloak whatever crackpot notion you have in the holy garb of mah rahts!
 

bluebyrd35

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i love it when people start talking like bluebyrd. They demonstrate their inability to stay calm and rational.
Twit.....Appears you cannot distinguish between sarcasm and calm and rational. Geez I was just touching on the highlights of the morning news here in Florida. It has been a very violent place this year and that was nowhere near the worst morning news this visit. There were worse ones ....Like last night's news....a man shot a young mother & child and then himself in a nearby park. He survives at the moment I believe. Didn't put on the news this am.
 
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JamesBondo

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Twit.....Appears you cannot distinguish between sarcasm and calm and rational. Geez I was just touching on the highlights of the morning news here in Florida. It has been a very violent place this year and that was nowhere near the worst morning news this visit. There were worse ones ....Like last night's news....a man shot a young mother & child and then himself in a nearby park. He survives at the moment I believe. Didn't put on the news this am.

it looks like you live in an area full of real shitbag people that need to be locked up. I don't know what your problem is but it certainly isnt the guns.
you said that you grew up with guns, did it make you a shitbag person?
 

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it looks like you live in an area full of real shitbag people that need to be locked up. I don't know what your problem is but it certainly isnt the guns.
you said that you grew up with guns, did it make you a shitbag person?
LOL No I live in very quiet section of Florida with many retirees. It is on the peninsula between the Halifax River & the Ocean.

It is the prevalence of guns available during arguments and disputes that is the problem. If you want to check out what the really violent areas are, google daily news in Orlando or Miami. Mostly on the local station, it gives only the local area unless it is absolutely horrific. Take a look at Orlando or Miami daily news almost any day and see what really happens.

PS as well as being a twit you are a rude insulting one.
 

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Twit.....Appears you cannot distinguish between sarcasm and calm and rational. Geez I was just touching on the highlights of the morning news here in Florida. It has been a very violent place this year and that was nowhere near the worst morning news this visit. There were worse ones ....Like last night's news....a man shot a young mother & child and then himself in a nearby park. He survives at the moment I believe. Didn't put on the news this am.

My sister-in-law works in a school in Broward County and there were some tense moments a few weeks ago. I haven't asked her what she thinks of taking weapons training, yet but I can say that she's REALLY not the type ... nor would most others be who have chosen to work with children. The gun slingers can't even imagine how sensitive, empathic people think.
 

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My sister-in-law works in a school in Broward County and there were some tense moments a few weeks ago. I haven't asked her what she thinks of taking weapons training, yet but I can say that she's REALLY not the type ... nor would most others be who have chosen to work with children. The gun slingers can't even imagine how sensitive, empathic people think.
Most teachers, from what I gather do NOT want to be armed guards. As a rule they are the more rational and peaceful group.
 

Curious Cdn

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Most teachers, from what I gather do NOT want to be armed guards. As a rule they are the more rational and peaceful group.

...which is why they became teachers in the first place. The Rambo wannabees who are driving all of this can't imagine how or why anyone would think like that. They sure wouldn't respect how "peaceful" people think, either.
 

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With all due respect to the Commander in Chief, I think he goofed on his thoughts about arming teachers and even if they are armed, it's not something the whole wide world should know about. Hire a couple of ex military as "teachers' aides" and arm them. They would probably have more sense than teachers! (Wasn't Trudeau a 'teacher' in some capacity?) Would you want him armed and lurking around the school?
 

JamesBondo

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LOL No I live in very quiet section of Florida with many retirees. It is on the peninsula between the Halifax River & the Ocean.

It is the prevalence of guns available during arguments and disputes that is the problem. If you want to check out what the really violent areas are, google daily news in Orlando or Miami. Mostly on the local station, it gives only the local area unless it is absolutely horrific. Take a look at Orlando or Miami daily news almost any day and see what really happens.

PS as well as being a twit you are a rude insulting one.

your reading comprehension suffers. I made a point that they were shitbags, and you weren't.

With all due respect to the Commander in Chief, I think he goofed on his thoughts about arming teachers and even if they are armed, it's not something the whole wide world should know about. Hire a couple of ex military as "teachers' aides" and arm them. They would probably have more sense than teachers! (Wasn't Trudeau a 'teacher' in some capacity?) Would you want him armed and lurking around the school?

Yes, arming an adult whose job it is to protect our kids, that would be a major goof.

Most teachers, from what I gather do NOT want to be armed guards. As a rule they are the more rational and peaceful group.

As a vounteer that takes youth out camping, wanting to protect our youth is a top priority for me. We have first aid kits, food, shelter, rules against horseplay, the buddy rule, etc. If there is a risk of grizzly bear, we act accordingly.

In the USA, there is a risk of shooters in their public schools, I believe the adults protecting the children should act accordingly.
 

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There is now always a risk of shooting in an American school.

It has become part of the culture.

So the real answer is to change the culture.
 

Curious Cdn

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There is now always a risk of shooting in an American school.

It has become part of the culture.

So the real answer is to change the culture.

You are competing against 3/4 of a century of shoot-'em-up Hollywood that has taught the American people to shoot first and ask questions later.

(I bet that you thought that Westerners wore big Stetsons and belt buckles in the 1880s).
 

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LOL No I live in very quiet section of Florida with many retirees. It is on the peninsula between the Halifax River & the Ocean.

It is the prevalence of guns available during arguments and disputes that is the problem. If you want to check out what the really violent areas are, google daily news in Orlando or Miami. Mostly on the local station, it gives only the local area unless it is absolutely horrific. Take a look at Orlando or Miami daily news almost any day and see what really happens.

PS as well as being a twit you are a rude insulting one.
Another gunshot murder in Surrey B.C. last night .
 

Hoid

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You are competing against 3/4 of a century of shoot-'em-up Hollywood that has taught the American people to shoot first and ask questions later.

(I bet that you thought that Westerners wore big Stetsons and belt buckles in the 1880s).
indeed the gun culture is a real thing, but so is the change we are seeing in Florida.