You remind me of little Chester, the guy on the right.
Colpy is Spike, the big guy on the left
Gun Control is Completely Useless.
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I don't know! Different weapon of choice?
Since when do laws have any effect on the criminal element? And law abiding citizens generally don't need laws as common sense works most of the time.
Gun legislation in Canada is largely about licensing and registration. Handgun registration became law in 1934, and automatic firearms registration was added in 1951. In 1969, laws classified firearms as "non-restricted", "restricted" and "prohibited". Starting in 1979, individuals who wished to acquire firearms were required to obtain a firearms acquisition certificate (FAC) from their local police agency.
Back in the 40's and 50's the world was a different place......kids used the streets of Montreal for hopscotch games, (the actual road) kick the can, rover, rover etc, They were out in the neighborhood until dark from the time they started school without adult supervision from the age of 6 to 7 It is not the same world any more. Most Canadians seemed to know this....where were you that you are unaware of this?
And how would that one woman who might manage to outdraw an armed rapist feel about a law preventing him from getting the gun in the first place??
Finally when was the last time 17 students were killed in minutes by forcing alcohol or drugs on them?
Thank you for this little bit of history. What exactly is your point?
True, I mentioned 35 year ago. However, when I went to school, 2018 minus the 40s is...well it is about 73 years ago....that is a far cry from 35 years ago.
Didn't you read Colpy's article? It clearly stated that as much as 200,000 women per year use firearms to protect themselves from sexual assault. 200k women per year, Bluebyrd! Yet, you continue to be so obtuse that you want to challenge the possibility that even 1 of them can outdraw an armed rapist? Believe me, it has happened. It is happening. And, it will happen again.
when you speak of 'forcing' alcohol or drugs on teens, you do understand that this is certainly open to interpretation. There are people out there that would insist that they are mostly an "accident", and once again that is certainly open to interpretation.
Anyway, here's what a quick google search gave me: 41,731,233 youth 10-19yrs old. drug overdoses 3.7/100k. 1544 teens per year. 4.23 teens per day. Every 4.01 days, 17 teens die of drug overdose.
alcohol is more complicated. the stats are for 21yrs and under. and they include car accidents, drownings, etc, not just alcohol poisoning. Why don't you do the math on this one?
although I strongly support the 2d Amendment, I couldn't help but chuckle at the truth of this meme:
GASP!
Third-graders are selling AR-15 raffle tickets in Missouri
Youth baseball team raffles AR-15 after Florida shooting | The Tribune
Third-graders are selling AR-15 raffle tickets in Missouri
Youth baseball team raffles AR-15 after Florida shooting | The Tribune
Join the 4H and learn to handle, maintain, store and respect a firearm and win prizes in a turkey shoot.
12 and up.
12 and up.
Thanks. Let me tell you what happened to me when I was stationed in Europe.
I was working with some Brits and Americans near a place called Bitburg. We were tasked with keeping an eye on Soviets masquerading as circus performers during the Bitburg BASH. That stands for the Bitburg Annual Summer Hiatus. The nearby base had AF police walking around with dogs. The German police were there in case the locals got into trouble.
We didn't find any Soviets, but we did discover two Czechs and a Romanian posing as carnival people. Needless to say, they got whisked away quite quickly. They had a trailer with surveillance equipment and a pieced together M16. An older one, complete with a wooden stock! I'd never seen one of them.
I was working with some Brits and Americans near a place called Bitburg. We were tasked with keeping an eye on Soviets masquerading as circus performers during the Bitburg BASH. That stands for the Bitburg Annual Summer Hiatus. The nearby base had AF police walking around with dogs. The German police were there in case the locals got into trouble.
We didn't find any Soviets, but we did discover two Czechs and a Romanian posing as carnival people. Needless to say, they got whisked away quite quickly. They had a trailer with surveillance equipment and a pieced together M16. An older one, complete with a wooden stock! I'd never seen one of them.
Jamesbondo "Didn't you read Colpy's article? It clearly stated that as much as 200,000 women per year use firearms to protect themselves from sexual assault. 200k women per year, Bluebyrd! Yet, you continue to be so obtuse that you want to challenge the possibility that even 1 of them can outdraw an armed rapist? Believe me, it has happened. It is happening. And, it will happen again."
Actually I did and it is from an article with nothing to back it up.
Try this one
http://ocrcc.org/guns-rape-prevention-a-dangerous-myth/
For those who will not read anything contrary to their beliefs ---
"The assumption that guns can prevent violence is dangerous and reflects a serious misunderstanding in the media about rape and prevention strategy. Many experts in the anti-violence field have agreed that having a gun only increases your risk of violence. A 1998 study on guns and self-defense found that women who live in a household with a gun are more likely to be killed in their homes than those who do not. Furthermore, using a gun successfully for self-defense is a very rare occurrence. Despite the 300 million guns Americans are estimated to own, a 2012 study found that for every justifiable homicide with a gun, there are another 32 criminal homicides with a gun. Of the justifiable cases of homicide found that year, only 7.7% were committed by women. These numbers don’t even include the numbers of accidental shootings and suicides that take place each year, but taken altogether, these stats reflect a reality that guns usually only make things worse.
Actually I did and it is from an article with nothing to back it up.
Try this one
http://ocrcc.org/guns-rape-prevention-a-dangerous-myth/
For those who will not read anything contrary to their beliefs ---
"The assumption that guns can prevent violence is dangerous and reflects a serious misunderstanding in the media about rape and prevention strategy. Many experts in the anti-violence field have agreed that having a gun only increases your risk of violence. A 1998 study on guns and self-defense found that women who live in a household with a gun are more likely to be killed in their homes than those who do not. Furthermore, using a gun successfully for self-defense is a very rare occurrence. Despite the 300 million guns Americans are estimated to own, a 2012 study found that for every justifiable homicide with a gun, there are another 32 criminal homicides with a gun. Of the justifiable cases of homicide found that year, only 7.7% were committed by women. These numbers don’t even include the numbers of accidental shootings and suicides that take place each year, but taken altogether, these stats reflect a reality that guns usually only make things worse.
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Why do you want to take guns away from people that are trying to defend themselves but you have no concern about criminals having guns?
Yes and all the people that were foolish enough to register their automatics had them stolen by the government when the rules were changed. The funny part is that no criminals had their personal property stolen by the government because they were smart enough not to register anything.
I didn't know that there were M-16s with wooden stocks. I thought that they were all made by Mattel.
Anyway on the same note as your close encounter with SMERSH, this puppy used to practically live in Halifax Habour. "Cosmonauts Tracker" indeed. "Focus the dish at the telephone exchange and listen to everybody on the phone induction current tracker".
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosmonavt_Yuriy_Gagarin
When did the Russians turn YOU, Murphsky?
Was it when you they showed you the photographs of a Moscow hooker urinating on you?
Was it when you saw Putin on his horse?
(By the way, don't accept Rubles. You can't even wipe your bum with those.)
you are quoting very old study that has since been replaced by a new CDC study when Obama issued an executive order after the sandy hook tragedy.
Yes. you've heard me correctly This is a CDC study commissioned by Obama.
The findings of the study were:
1. Armed citizens are less likely to be injured by an attacker:
“Studies that directly assessed the effect of actual defensive uses of guns (i.e., incidents in which a gun was ‘used’ by the crime victim in the sense of attacking or threatening an offender) have found consistently lower injury rates among gun-using crime victims compared with victims who used other self-protective strategies.”
2. Defensive uses of guns are common:
“Almost all national survey estimates indicate that*defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals,*with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year…in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008.”
3. Mass shootings and accidental firearm deaths account for a small fraction of gun-related deaths, and both are declining:
“The number of public mass shootings of the type that occurred at Sandy Hook Elementary School accounted for a very small fraction of all firearm-related deaths. Since 1983 there have been 78 events in which 4 or more individuals were killed by a single perpetrator in 1 day in the United States, resulting in 547 victims and 476 injured persons.” The report also notes, “Unintentional firearm-related deaths have steadily declined during the past century. The number of unintentional deaths due to firearm-related incidents accounted for less than 1 percent of all unintentional fatalities in 2010.”
4. “Interventions” (i.e, gun control) such as background checks, so-called assault rifle bans and gun-free zones produce “mixed” results:
“Whether gun restrictions reduce firearm-related violence is an unresolved issue.” The report could not conclude whether “passage of right-to-carry laws decrease or increase violence crime.”
5. Gun buyback/turn-in programs are “ineffective”*in reducing crime:
“There is empirical evidence that gun turn in programs are ineffective, as noted in the 2005 NRC study*Firearms and Violence: A Critical Review. For example, in 2009, an estimated 310 million guns were available to civilians in the United States (Krouse, 2012), but gun buy-back programs typically recover less than 1,000 guns (NRC, 2005). On the local level, buy-backs may increase awareness of firearm violence. However, in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, for example, guns recovered in the buy-back were not the same guns as those most often used in homicides and suicides (Kuhn et al., 2002).”
6. Stolen guns and retail/gun show purchases account for very little crime:
“More recent prisoner surveys suggest that stolen guns account for only a small percentage of guns used by convicted criminals. … According to a 1997 survey of inmates, approximately 70 percent of the guns used or possess by criminals at the time of their arrest came from family or friends, drug dealers, street purchases, or the underground market.”
7. The vast majority of gun-related deaths are not homicides, but suicides:
“Between the years 2000-2010 firearm-related suicides significantly outnumbered homicides for all age groups, annually accounting for 61 percent of the more than 335,600 people who died from firearms related violence in the United States.”
Why No One Has Heard This
Given the CDC’s prior track record on guns, you may be surprised by the extent with which the new research refutes some of the anti-gun movement’s deepest convictions.
What are opponents of the Second Amendment doing about the new data? Perhaps predictably, they’re ignoring it. President Obama, Michael Bloomberg and the Brady Campaign remain silent. Most suspicious of all, the various media outlets that so eagerly anticipated the CDC research are looking the other way as well. One must wonder how media coverage of the CDC report may have differed, had the research more closely fit an*anti-gun narrative.
Even worse, the few mainstream journalists who did report the CDC’s findings chose to cherry-pick from the data. Most, like NBC News,*reported*exclusively on the finding that gun suicides are up.*Largely lost in that discussion is the fact that the overall rate of suicide—regardless of whether a gun is involved or not—is also up.
Others seized upon the CDC’s finding that, “The U.S. rate of firearm-related homicide is higher than that of any other industrialized country: 19.5 times higher than the rates in other high-income countries.” However, as noted by the*Las Vegas*Guardian Express,*if figures are excluded from such anti-gun bastions as Illinois, California, New Jersey and Washington, D.C., “The homicide rate in the United States would be in line with any other country.”
The CDC report is overall a blow to the Obama Administration’s unconstitutional agenda. It largely supports the Second Amendment, and contradicts common anti-gun arguments. Unfortunately, mainstream media failed to get the story they were hoping for, and their silence on the matter is a screaming illustration
https://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/1
