Lets be clear, Obama commissions a study, you don't like the conclusions because they don't fit your preconceived beliefs. Get over it.
Gun Control is Completely Useless.
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Lets be clear, Obama commissions a study, you don't like the conclusions because they don't fit your preconceived beliefs. Get over it.
Ideologue know better than you and believe only what fits their ideology, you're wasting your time trying to convince that one of anything that doesn't fit her narrow field of view....
The amusing part is that whenever anybody else brings up U.S. laws, statistics, articles, stories, &c. on guns, bluebyrd screeches that we're talking about CANADA, not the U.S.
Could it be that there are far more influential issues to homicide rates than how permissive firearms are?
Could it be that 88 guns per 100 people ( USA ) does not support the anti-gun myth that more guns equals more murders by guns?
You cannot compare states and provinces of your choice for one thing. Stats are usually rigged and you are taking internet figures. There are more gun murders per capita in the USA than in Canada and sadly, most are done by kids who innocently get ahold of a carelessly stored gun. Gun controls do work.
A kid who gets hold of a carelessly stored gun and shoots somebody isn't murder.
You better get a handle on definitions if you want to play here.
Well, no, I take that back. There's plenty of players here whose grasp of English and logic is minimal. But if you want to be anything besides a laughing stock, best to be careful and accurate with your terms.
Personally, I find his/her claim to be out in left field. While safe storage is important, it is not a driving factor to homicide rates.
Yeah, less than two percent.
Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence – Gun Law Information Experts
Now I'm gonna have to chastize you, too. Accidents aren't homicides. Homicide requires some level of intent. Just sayin'.
You certainly didn't use the emotionally and legally loaded term "murder." And your error, insofar as it was an error, was just technical, not propaganda.
Still, if I give VanIsle a hard time for bad terminology, fairness dictates, y'know?
Well, how about the local news??. It is not unusual to hear of 4 to 5 deaths or serious injuries in just the range of THE local station. There is rarely reports of other similar sized shootings from other places. However, I notice on route to and from Canada & the US, the local stations do the same & publish only their own local cases.
I remember in large Baltimore hotel watching from about the 10 floor, a gun fight in the parking lot after arriving in my room. No mention of that on the news even locally. It takes a mass shooting to make the national news these days.
All I can say is the reports of defensive gun use, is either manufactured or extrapolated to a ridiculous degree. Adding those stats to the actual reported shootings actually reported puts the incidence of gun violence completely out of the ball park. Claiming defensive gun use in order to reduce such violence is ludicrous.
So the local news is anecdotal these days?? Stack it up against the down right dishonest and obvious fiddling with the statistic gathering entities such as the NRA and other invested entities are doing, and you better believe it!!
One "this happened to me one day" story or one news station story .....damn right, it's anecdotal !
Combine hundreds or thousands of them and analyze them properly and you have statistics....
And you just don't believe statistics that don't support YOUR views!
Combine hundreds or thousands of them and analyze them properly and you have statistics....
And you just don't believe statistics that don't support YOUR views!
Actually if you subscribed to a local station in the US (and this easy) and listen for yourself, I do not think you will call it anecdotal. Now, I suspect that if you did this for several stations, you would be way over the daily reported national gun violence on any day you choose to compare to.