God does not wrong people

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Christ I wish I had a warm mud hole like that.
The finer the clay particles the silkier it feels. Getting them really fine is definitely worth the trouble. If that ever got out think of the market for that product when all the hot-tubbers are changing over to 'mud-pit'
 

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Hubby says faith is simply the belief that what you hope to be true actually is true.
Andy Carnegie said, "He that cannot reason is a fool. He that will not is a bigot. He that dare not is a slave."

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Faith that a bridge will hold you up is gained by reading an engineering spec book. Faith in the Bible being literal rather than parable depends on how nicely all the parts of the book fit in with one another. If they do it will answer that question for the reader, each having their own level of understanding.

Gotta admit it is pretty hard for a myth to wrong someone.
Instruction on what to do (back away from) if you see certain things unfolding before your eyes doesn't hurt a person either.
 

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meh Silly idea. Mud baths have been around for ages. I have not seen any hot-tub mud baths. They would be grossly expensive because pumps that are able to pump mud are not cheap.

Faith that a bridge will hold you up is gained by reading an engineering spec book.
Oh? Age and condition have nothing to do with it?
Faith in the Bible being literal rather than parable depends on how nicely all the parts of the book fit in with one another. If they do it will answer that question for the reader, each having their own level of understanding.
Faith in the Bible being literal displays a lack of reasoning abilities.
 

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meh Silly idea. Mud baths have been around for ages. I have not seen any hot-tub mud baths. They would be grossly expensive because pumps that are able to pump mud are not cheap.

Oh? Age and condition have nothing to do with it? Faith in the Bible being literal displays a lack of reasoning abilities.
No pumps needed, fine mud is dried and put through a fine screed. The idea would to be to not use it as a bathroom.

Sure it does, said reference book would tell you that aspect also, a rusty 1" bolt has the same strength as a new 1/2" bolt.
So you say but then your version has a few flaws in it so what is your score when it comes to your reasoning ability??
 

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If a god was merciful and just and all-powerful and all-seeing and all-that-other-hogwash it should have no need of fearful humans. Meh you have a malicious, immature, and unintelligent god who likes punishing babies and children.

Deception used to promote Islam and defeat non-believers. TheReligionofPeace - Islam: Taqiyya and Lying

Hubby says faith is simply the belief that what you hope to be true actually is true.
Andy Carnegie said, "He that cannot reason is a fool. He that will not is a bigot. He that dare not is a slave."

It looks like 3 of us were intended to be Catholic robo.... er people.
I think faith is simply trust. Kinda like when you are a little one you trust that your parents will provide for everything you need. It's just trust. And really if you trust in someone, you don't need to jump through hoops or put on a performance to add to it, because the trust is in your parents, not in yourself or your merits.
 

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No pumps needed, fine mud is dried and put through a fine screed. The idea would to be to not use it as a bathroom.
:roll:Then it would be a dust bath, not a mud bath. If you want a mud bath in a hottub, you need pumps.

Sure it does, said reference book would tell you that aspect also, a rusty 1" bolt has the same strength as a new 1/2" bolt.
Baloney. Oxidation weakens metals. Besides, you are still ignoring the age factor I mentioned. Age also weakens metals.
So you say but then your version has a few flaws in it so what is your score when it comes to your reasoning ability??
My version? lol I do not have a version of the Bible.
My score? Who keeps score? Intelligence and wisdom are not a contest. Besides, quantitative analysis on such things as intelligence, reasoning, wisdom, etc. is quite inaccurate because we humans do not know all the variables involved with the brain and its functions.
 

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I think faith is simply trust. Kinda like when you are a little one you trust that your parents will provide for everything you need. It's just trust. And really if you trust in someone, you don't need to jump through hoops or put on a performance to add to it, because the trust is in your parents, not in yourself or your merits.
Faith, trust, belief without evidence ...... all same critter.

I took that to be the point he/she was making, Anna. :)
Nope. MPutz said a 1" bolt has the same strength whether it is new or rusty. He (I am guessing it is a "he") is wrong, as usual.
 

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So to you, beavers are cape buffalo and mudholes are dams? oooookay then

Not like this, but a member here Da Sleeper inserted a picture of Buffaloes in the mud, of course ridiculing me, because I am savage and he is civilized; and my post was a reply to darkbeaver's comment.

Really? You needed a simple straight forward phrase interpreted? How about this interpretation ss. You are a trial but I have patience.

What is your religion and which deity do you worship?

can't leave the book out

I think you follow some mysterious religion, worshiping Satan and genies?
 
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Not like this, but a member here Da Sleeper inserted a picture of Buffaloes in the mud, of course ridiculing me, because I am savage and he is civilized; and my post was a reply to darkbeaver's comment.



What is your religion and which deity do you worship?



I think you follow some mysterious religion, worshiping Satan and genies?
Just consider me a heathen selfstump
 

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To be God obsessed is to be fanatical God does not intervene anyway
so good luck with that. God does not punish either our actions set out
the measure of punishment in the eyes of the law.
Taking life from a book written by who knows is not my preference in
life. Tyrants are often the people they accuse of being tyrants given the
same level of powers

Don't you see a cause and result in the community and everyday life?
Don't you see the criminal sooner or later be killed, and the thief die poor?
Don't you see the charity doer blessed with more bounties and more provision?

Example: Once one who worked with us in our department; he lived in a rural area; his neighbor came to him and said: I have no car, I have a patient: one of my family; would you please carry us in your car to the hospital, and I give you 1000 coins or as you demand?
Our companion said: "I will carry you without demanding any sum of money; it is for God's sake."
Next day, they told him in the department: Bring our goods to the department, and take these 2000 coins for that.
The man said: This is the reward of my charity to my neighbor."
I said: "You will have more 8000 coins within a short period; because the charity is rewarded 10 folds in the World and 700 folds in the Next Life."

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Another example: Once I gained a sum of money, and I took one fifth of that; the one fifth I divided into six shares, then I gave to Abu abd-Allah 400 dinars at that time. Abu abd-Allah ran to his family and said to them ( to encourage them to spend in God's way): "This is in return of the 40 dinars which I spent in charity, now God gave it to me ten folds."
 
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Don't you see a cause and result in the community and everyday life?
Don't you see the criminal sooner or later be killed, and the thief die poor?
Don't you see the charity doer blessed with more bounties and more provision?

Example: Once one who worked with us in our department; he lived in a rural area; his neighbor came to him and said: I have no car, I have a patient: one of my family; would you please carry us in your car to the hospital, and I give you 1000 coins or as you demand?
Our companion said: "I will carry you without demanding any sum of money; it is for God's sake."
Next day, they told him in the department: Bring our goods to the department, and take these 2000 coins for that.
The man said: This is the reward of my charity to my neighbor."
I said: "You will have more 8000 coins within a short period; because the charity is rewarded 10 folds in the World and 700 folds in the Next Life."

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Another example: Once I gained a sum of money, and I took one fifth of that; the one fifth I divided into six shares, then I gave to Abu abd-Allah 400 dinars at that time. Abu abd-Allah ran to his family and said to them ( to encourage them to spend in God's way): "This is in return of the 40 dinars which I spent in charity, now God gave it to me ten folds."
So in essence what you are saying,,,,selfstoomp, is that you do not help out of a true feeling of empathy for suffering people. It is not their distress you feel the desire to alleviate, it is rather, the idea that if you help another, you'll get a reward. :). Congratulations you pay dues just like the other ones.

You give ,,,,to get. You do not give, out of a pure heart you scoundrel you
 

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To be God obsessed is to be fanatical God does not intervene anyway
so good luck with that. God does not punish either our actions set out
the measure of punishment in the eyes of the law.
Taking life from a book written by who knows is not my preference in
life. Tyrants are often the people they accuse of being tyrants given the
same level of powers

I can tell you more examples of direct answer of prayer, but will you believe, even if I tell you so many examples; and you will say this is by chance, in your insisting on your atheism to which you stick, and you say fanatic while it is the fanatic.

So see this example:
A man whom I know as myself, he told me this:
Once a girl one of my relatives was upset; I asked her and she said a young man one of their neighbors started to embarrass her, and in our communities this is very serious and dishonest; the man told me: I said to her: "I will go to this young man and stop him."
She said: "No, uncle please, because this will cause rumors among the family and neighbors."
So the man was bewildered and perplexed as to what will he do?

He said: So I went to the roof of the house, at night, and it was dark and there was none there, and I hid myself among some barrels there, so that none may see me, then I supplicated God earnestly to rid us from this mean young man.

One or two days later, a gang came and punt the machine gun in their car and killed the driver who was his friend while the boy was crippled and the bullets hit his vertebral column and spinal cord.
The man said: I was very sad for that.
 
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