God does not wrong people

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To be God obsessed is to be fanatical God does not intervene anyway
so good luck with that. God does not punish either our actions set out
the measure of punishment in the eyes of the law.
Taking life from a book written by who knows is not my preference in
life. Tyrants are often the people they accuse of being tyrants given the
same level of powers

Quran 17: 33
{33. And kill not the soul which God has forbidden save by a right [cause] d.

Whoso is slain wrongfully [and undeservedly], We have given power to his heir [on the murderer by means of retaliation], but let the [heir] not commit excess in slaying e; surely, he will be helped to overcome [his opponent, so let him not hasten and then he may kill one who is not the murderer.]}
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d It means: except the one deserving the killing because he committed a crime.

e So that he may kill two instead of one, or he might kill a man, else than the murderer.

I once heard a nice tale which I tell you here:

A few policemen went from Baghdad [in the middle of Iraq] to Mosul [in the north of Iraq] taking with them some arrested men, to hand them over to the Mosul police.

Afterwards, when they intended to return to Baghdad, they saw a man in the railway station, intending also to go to Baghdad, but his money were not sufficient to buy the ticket for the journey by the train; so they said to him: “Come with us in the train, and we put the handcuffs on your hands, then when the collector comes, we shall say to him: This is a prisoner sent by the court to Baghdad, so he will leave you and go his way. Then we shall unlock the handcuffs from your hands after he leaves us.”

So the man agreed about that, and they put the handcuffs on his hands and locked it. Then the train moved and their plan succeeded.

Later on, the policeman, who carried the key, protruded his head from the window of the train to see something in the desert, while the train was quickly moving, and the key fell from his hand in the desert, so the hands of the man remained bound with the locked handcuffs. They tried to unlock it without the key, but they did not succeed in that, so the police said to him: “When we arrive at Baghdad, we shall go to a blacksmith to unlock the handcuffs for you.”

Then when they arrived at Baghdad, they took him to a blacksmith, and said to him: “Unlock the handcuffs for this man.”

But when the blacksmith saw him, he recognized and siezed him, and said to the police: “This man killed my father and escaped few years ago, and I searched about him and could not find him; and he has now come to me upon his feet. Now, take us to the police officer and don’t unlock his handcuffs.”

So they took them both to the police detective, and the blacksmith proved his claim about the man in the court and retaliated of him.

Therefore, this incident confirms His saying – be glorified – in this aya, which means:
(Whoso is slain wrongfully [and undeservedly], We have given to his heir power [on the murderer by means of retaliation])

The interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.

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Moreover, it is narrated from Prophet Mohammed - salam to him - that he said:
"God says: I swear by My Majesty and Might, I will take revenge against the wrong-doer for the behalf of the wronged one, even though after a while."
 

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So in essence what you are saying,,,,selfstoomp, is that you do not help out of a true feeling of empathy for suffering people. It is not their distress you feel the desire to alleviate, it is rather, the idea that if you help another, you'll get a reward. :). Congratulations you pay dues just like the other ones.

You give ,,,,to get. You do not give, out of a pure heart you scoundrel you

Eeeh; I cannot reach to you in your helping the poor and the needy: how many many of them you helped out of your kindness!

I don't believe you; if you had been with such kindness, God might have guided you.
 

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Eeeh; I cannot reach to you in your helping the poor and the needy: how many many of them you helped out of your kindness!

I don't believe you; if you had been with such kindness, God might have guided you.
Cut loose with some coin you stingy bastid .Your peoples need some help stop layin up on that couch and get something done like your Zakat tells you to do infidel.
 

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I surprise why some people insist on some lies; they are unlucky.
Ludlow, do you worship Lucifer? And if not, tell us about your diety. Are you a communist or what?
 

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I surprise why some people insist on some lies; they are unlucky.
Ludlow, do you worship Lucifer? And if not, tell us about your diety. Are you a communist or what?
God does not harm anybody but those that believe in god do. When Allah is on your side you are capable of justifying all sorts of atrocities in the name of your god. This applies to Muslims, Christians and Jews. Religion produces psychopaths.
 

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God is never wrong. At what age is a baby responsible for his or her own death by a so called act of God? Are all the dead buried under volcanic ash sinners? Of course they are, God did not make them build thier cities on volcanic plains they did that from thier own ignorance which if we remember correctly is one of the big unforgivable sins. So if God did not smite the ignorant who would ever learn the do nots. So what appears at first to be a vengeful murdering deity has really patiently instructed by example and consequently saved the millions of unborn from the sins of thier fathers. God is innocent of any wrong as the title Supreme Being expresses right up front from day one.
 

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Stop shifting the focus harlot I asked you why you don't help your Arab brothers ,

You cheap superficial tramp you. LOL.:).

You evade the answer. OK say I don't help my people.
Now tell us: do you worship Lucifer? And if not: which deity do you worship? And if not: are you a communist or what?
Because in one of your posts, you said that you don't worship my God, but another god! Which god is that you worship?
If you don't answer, it will be obvious that you follow some mysterious religions of Satan worship!!

God is never wrong. At what age is a baby responsible for his or her own death by a so called act of God? Are all the dead buried under volcanic ash sinners? Of course they are, God did not make them build thier cities on volcanic plains they did that from thier own ignorance which if we remember correctly is one of the big unforgivable sins. So if God did not smite the ignorant who would ever learn the do nots. So what appears at first to be a vengeful murdering deity has really patiently instructed by example and consequently saved the millions of unborn from the sins of thier fathers. God is innocent of any wrong as the title Supreme Being expresses right up front from day one.

When a generalized punishment settles, e.g. an earthquake, hurricane, epidemic ..etc, then this generalized punishment will involve all people in that location .. men, women, old, young or children in addition to their cattle and crops.
Such punishment will include the believer + the disbeliever.
The believers, that are silent about the corruption, will be involved; or if they carry out their duty, God will spare them by letting them depart from that region. Like Lot's family: God ordered them to leave that region by night and let none of them return back, while his betraying woman returned and was involved and buried under the wreckage of the earthquake.

Quran 8: 25
{And ward off a trial d which shall surely not afflict in particular the wrong-doers among you e}
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d With an affliction.
e But it will involve all people.

It means: when the affliction comes it will involve all people, and not confined to the wrong-doers alone, but will involve the believers (that are silent about the corruption!)
 

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You evade the answer. OK say I don't help my people.
Now tell us: do you worship Lucifer? And if not: which deity do you worship? And if not: are you a communist or what?
Because in one of your posts, you said that you don't worship my God, but another god! Which god is that you worship?
If you don't answer, it will be obvious that you follow some mysterious religions of Satan worship!!



When a generalized punishment settles, e.g. an earthquake, hurricane, epidemic ..etc, then this generalized punishment will involve all people in that location .. men, women, old, young or children in addition to their cattle and crops.
Such punishment will include the believer + the disbeliever.
The believers, that are silent about the corruption, will be involved; or if they carry out their duty, God will spare them by letting them depart from that region. Like Lot's family: God ordered them to leave that region by night and let none of them return back, while his betraying woman returned and was involved and buried under the wreckage of the earthquake.

Quran 8: 25
{And ward off a trial d which shall surely not afflict in particular the wrong-doers among you e}
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d With an affliction.
e But it will involve all people.

It means: when the affliction comes it will involve all people, and not confined to the wrong-doers alone, but will involve the believers (that are silent about the corruption!)
Shut it Selfstump ye bother me. Ye can only answer a question with stupid questions of your own, Folks can't be bothered with the likes of you . Ya disloyal harlot.