George Zimmerman -Trial begins

[Locutus]

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CNN Panel Agrees: “Black Manhood” On Trial In Zimmerman Case…



Or something.

Via Daily Caller:

In an article posted on The Nation’s website last week, Mychal Denzel-Smith suggested that in the George Zimmerman trial underway for the murder of Trayvon Martin, it isn’t Zimmerman who is on trial, but Martin and black manhood.

Denzel-Smith made an appearance on Sunday’s “CNN Newsroom” to back up that claim and accuse Zimmerman of depicting Martin as a “very cartoonish version” of a 17-year-old black boy.

“To believe Zimmerman’s story, I think, because to me it reads like a very cartoonish version of what a 17-year-old black boy would say and do in this situation,” Denzel-Smith said. “I think you know, to believe that Trayvon Martin was to jump out of the bushes and to approach George Zimmerman and to strike him in the face without any type of provocation sounds to me like you have to believe that there is an inherent criminality and inherent violence in 17-year-old black boys that you see.” [...]

Joining Denzel-Smith for the segment was Rod Vereen, attorney for the prosecution’s witness Rachel Jeantel. Vereen agreed with Denzel-Smith’s suggestion that black manhood was on trial in the case.

“Of course it is,” Vereen said. “People have a tendency to want to believe that young black men are growing up in these urban neighborhoods to be violent. And that is absolutely not the case. They want to make it appear Trayvon Martin comes in a broken home and that he lacks parental guidance and youthful guidance and therefore, was more apt to be the aggressor in the situation with Mr. Zimmerman, without any evidence to support that inference.”

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[petros]

TV event of the summer.

When does the Hallmark movie come out? August?

What great way to sell Priuses ,burgers, and pills.

 

[Locutus]

Gunshot wound expert: Evidence supports Zimmerman - The Washington Post


Zimmerman Trial | Live video | Defense Witnesses

 

[Colpy]

Gunshot wound expert: Evidence supports Zimmerman - The Washington Post


Zimmerman Trial | Live video | Defense Witnesses

The prosecution's entire case was slowly, precisely, and thoroughly destroyed by this man.

 

[B00Mer]

Florida Sheriff Prepares for Riots After Zimmerman Verdict


This is a show trial full of Liberal bios.. Fukking PC'ers

Martin was charged with drug offenses and fighting.. he was far from an innocent bi-standard.

Suspects in Cobb Co. beating, fatal hit-and-run in court - Atlanta News, Weather, Traffic, and Sports | FOX 5

 

[lone wolf]

I doesn't matter what happened before, during or after. It's going to boil down to racial tension.

 

[Corduroy]

That's the best evidence for Zimmerman's case yet. In fact, most of the evidence has been too inconclusive to justify the staunchly held opinions of both sides. It's disturbing to see so many people take and defend sides so vehemently in a case in situation where we have no idea what actually happened. It's not surprising though.

 

[Colpy]

That's the best evidence for Zimmerman's case yet. In fact, most of the evidence has been too inconclusive to justify the staunchly held opinions of both sides. It's disturbing to see so many people take and defend sides so vehemently in a case in situation where we have no idea what actually happened. It's not surprising though.

The point being that if " we have no idea what actually happened", then Zimmerman must be found not guilty.

 

[Goober]

That's the best evidence for Zimmerman's case yet. In fact, most of the evidence has been too inconclusive to justify the staunchly held opinions of both sides. It's disturbing to see so many people take and defend sides so vehemently in a case in situation where we have no idea what actually happened. It's not surprising though.

So far the evidence presented by the DA has not shown motive or where Zimmerman lied to police.
The DNA evidence was ruined due to the fact that the Police use plastic bags, vice paper and the evidence was then contaminated due to bacteria/ mold.

The Police did a piss poor job of gathering and protecting DNA evidence in this case.

The AG is under indictment for falsifying evidence so as to have the ability to lay a charge.

Hope she does substantial digger time if convicted. I would say it would be fair that if found guilty she serve the average time that Zimmerman would be subject if found guilty.

Tired of Officials like that lying, cheating and perjuring themselves for a conviction.

 

[Corduroy]

The point being that if " we have no idea what actually happened", then Zimmerman must be found not guilty.

Zimmerman isn't claiming he didn't kill Martin. Claiming self-defense throws the burden of proof back on the killer. Of course, charging Zimmerman with 2nd degree murder shifts it slightly back. The whole trial is a mess muddled up by politics and media irresponsibility.

 

[Zipperfish]

This is all just sound and fury. Nobody knows what the verdict is going to be, but the 24/7 media machine exhaustively analyzes every aspect. There's probably been a thousand homicides in the US since that one.

 

[Goober]

Zimmerman isn't claiming he didn't kill Martin. Claiming self-defense throws the burden of proof back on the killer. Of course, charging Zimmerman with 2nd degree murder shifts it slightly back. The whole trial is a mess muddled up by politics and media irresponsibility.

I disagree- The burden of proof is with the DA to prove that self defense was not reasonable. Innocent first and always in a trial.

 

[Colpy]

Zimmerman isn't claiming he didn't kill Martin. Claiming self-defense throws the burden of proof back on the killer. Of course, charging Zimmerman with 2nd degree murder shifts it slightly back. The whole trial is a mess muddled up by politics and media irresponsibility.

That is absolutely incorrect.

There is no onus on Zimmerman to prove his innocence.

In Canada the onus is on the Crown to prove that the defense does not apply.

I looked, and the same applies in US states.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

That is absolutely incorrect.

There is no onus on Zimmerman to prove his innocence.

In Canada the onus is on the Crown to prove that the defense does not apply.

I looked, and the same applies in US states.

Wrong. Self-defense is an "affirmative defense," which means it has to be proved by the party presenting it (i.e., Zimmerman).

 

[Colpy]

Wrong. Self-defense is an "affirmative defense," which means it has to be proved by the party presenting it (i.e., Zimmerman).

Your interpretation of an "affirmative defense" is taken a step too far. All that means is that Zimmerman is expected to produce some evidence that he was acting in self-defense (such as a broken nose and a bruised, battered, split and bleeding scalp)

Zimmerman does not have to prove it was self-defense.

The onus is still on the state to prove it was not self-defense, and the advantage of reasonable doubt still rests with Zimmerman.

 

[Corduroy]

That is absolutely incorrect.

There is no onus on Zimmerman to prove his innocence.

In Canada the onus is on the Crown to prove that the defense does not apply.

I looked, and the same applies in US states.

How hard did you look?

 

[Colpy]

How hard did you look?

I didn't have to look in the Canadian case.........I taught this stuff to armed guards.

The USA is a little different. Surprisingly, in some states it is harder to use by reason of self defense than it is in Canada....probably because Canadians juries are less sympathetic to self defense as an argument, and more likely to convict despite a self-defense plea. (that last bit is complete speculation on my part)

I googled onus self defense Florida

and then had to shuffle through a pile of crap to get to a statement of actual onus (on the state) and an explanation of an "affirmative defense", specifically for Florida.

 

[EagleSmack]

The USA is a little different. Surprisingly, in some states it is harder to use by reason of self defense than it is in Canada....probably because Canadians juries are less sympathetic to self defense as an argument, and more likely to convict despite a self-defense plea. (that last bit is complete speculation on my part)
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In Massachusetts the government and authorities encourage you to throw yourself at the mercy of the criminals over self-defense.

 

[BaalsTears]

(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watchannounced today that it has obtained documents in response to local, state, and federal records requests revealing that a little-known unit of the Department of Justice (DOJ), the Community Relations Service (CRS), was deployed to Sanford, FL, following the Trayvon Martin shooting to help organize and manage rallies and protests against George Zimmerman.

Documents Obtained by Judicial Watch Detail Role of Justice Department in Organizing Trayvon Martin Protests | Judicial Watch

 

[Colpy]

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