George Zimmerman -Trial begins

Goober

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Clearly, the Zimmerman Defence Fund didn't get many contributions.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57587877-504083/george-zimmerman-trial-defense-fund-up-$77k-in-one-week-for-man-accused-of-murdering-trayvon-martin/

Trayvon Martin Murder Trial: George Zimmerman’s Defense Fund Is Almost Broke | TIME.com

On Wednesday, Zimmerman’s attorneys posted on their website that the defense fund now contains less than $5,000. In early January, the George Zimmerman Defense Fund had raised over $314,000 through an appeal on the crowdfunding site Kickstarter.
 

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Hmmm. . . would this mean that your "character" is of the type that tries to tell an entire country of people how they should think?

Why limit myself to an entire country? I assume on this forum I am addressing Canadians, but I'd just as soon tell all Americans to stop treating this murder trial like a political contest between Democrats and Republicans.
 

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Why limit myself to an entire country? I assume on this forum I am addressing Canadians, but I'd just as soon tell all Americans to stop treating this murder trial like a political contest between Democrats and Republicans.

Why? This is great stuff!

Hell, I think we should crowd-source it.
 

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Why limit myself to an entire country? I assume on this forum I am addressing Canadians, but I'd just as soon tell all Americans to stop treating this murder trial like a political contest between Democrats and Republicans.

Not only politics- race as well.
And we have a number of members from the US.
 

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Why limit myself to an entire country? I assume on this forum I am addressing Canadians, but I'd just as soon tell all Americans to stop treating this murder trial like a political contest between Democrats and Republicans.


It must be why so many people KNOW what they can't possibly know. I think you've got to fall in one of those political camps to have decided this trial ahead of time.
 

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Personally, this will be a show trial with lots of theatre and whatnot (they need a better comedian as the opening act). The jury will deliberate and hopefully come to a reasonable verdict based ONLY on the evidence presented and then deliver a verdict one way or the other. No matter what the verdict is, there will be considerable number of people who will rally or protest or riot because they feel the jury got it wrong. It won't be like OJ where a killer goes free to search golf courses for the mysterious real killer.

But does anybody actually believe this trial will in any way shape of form uncover the truth?
 

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Personally, this will be a show trial with lots of theatre and whatnot (they need a better comedian as the opening act). The jury will deliberate and hopefully come to a reasonable verdict based ONLY on the evidence presented and then deliver a verdict one way or the other. No matter what the verdict is, there will be considerable number of people who will rally or protest or riot because they feel the jury got it wrong. It won't be like OJ where a killer goes free to search golf courses for the mysterious real killer.

But does anybody actually believe this trial will in any way shape of form uncover the truth?
Truth? Ski, the whole purpose of the rules of evidence is to obscure the truth.
 

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Reference the non DNA transfer from Zimmerman to Martin. From the defense

Zimmerman trial prosecutors want to admit 911 and other calls - World - CBC News

Zimmerman's story disputed

West said the idea that Martin was unarmed is untrue: "Trayvon Martin armed himself with a concrete sidewalk and used it to smash George Zimmerman's head."

The prosecutor, however, disputed elements of Zimmerman's story, including his claim that Martin put his hands over Zimmerman's mouth and reached for the man's gun. Guy said none of Zimmerman's DNA was found on Martin's body, and none of the teenager's DNA was on the weapon or the holster.

But West said that doesn't prove anything, arguing that crime-scene technicians didn't properly protect Martin's hands from contamination.

Two police dispatch phone calls that could prove to be important evidence for both sides were played for the jury by the defence. Martin's mother, Sybrina Fulton, left the courtroom before the second recording, which has the sound of the gunshot that killed Martin.
 

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The prosecutor, however, disputed elements of Zimmerman's story, including his claim that Martin put his hands over Zimmerman's mouth and reached for the man's gun. Guy said none of Zimmerman's DNA was found on Martin's body, and none of the teenager's DNA was on the weapon or the holster.

But West said that doesn't prove anything, arguing that crime-scene technicians didn't properly protect Martin's hands from contamination.

West is a lawyer, not a scientist. Improper crime scene procedures with respect to Martin's hands wouldn't have contaminated any evidence already on Zimmerman's weapon and holster. Unless the crime scene technicians washed Martin's hands with some organic solvents, it's inconceivable that there would be no DNA left behind if Zimmerman's side of the story is true. Twenty-four punches to the face after breaking a man's nose with a sucker punch is going to leave a lot of DNA on Martin. It would be in the fabric of Martin's clothes, and under his finger nails.

It's laughable nonsense that the DNA would have been washed away by the rain. If that were true, why I could just soak all my lab instruments in water. Heck, I could spray my equipment down with water and there would be no need for expensive disinfecting solutions.

Ridiculous! Can't wait to hear the expert testimony on how the rain washed away all of that DNA.
 

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