Freeman creating policing problems here too

Goober

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People who believe in UFOs feel that UFOs are a threat to humanity. Does that make it a truth?

Anti-government? That is a threat to whom? If Government is on the up and up what do they have to worry about.

Anybody can set up an armed police force or security agency, there are no restrictions prohibiting it and they don't have to be run by a Government.

Well I keep answering and keep on asking- Is this a one way conversation- You ask I answer but I cannot ask????
The above has not been answered yet
 

damngrumpy

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There is a provision for a citizens arrest somewhere but that does not include
the same powers as a police officer. Besides it would be risky in today's
society to attempt that. I know if someone thought I did something, a stranger
and came at me I would drop him and worry about the consequences later.
Today if you are under any kind of threat its best to make it quick and make it
hurt.
As for other powers i don't believe we have the same arrest powers as a cop.

The problem today is everyone thinks freedom applies to them with no responsibility
In Canada like it or not you can't there is no property rights and the laws apply to all.
These freeman of the land are about to get a message from the government and it
won't be nice. It is time to clamp down on these folks, yes there is democracy and
freedom but society, meaning the people as a whole have agreed to a set of rules
and that applies to all. If you want to change the rules or laws you have to do it through
the system, I would bet for example within a few years the pot laws will change because
people are beginning to understand they don't work and the National Community as a whole
does not support the governments position on them, even in America prohibition laws are
changing.
 

JLM

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Society is a loose term. Do any of us have a card that say we are part of society?

I suppose I could have said "populace", but it means the same thing!-:)

We sure do. Nobody in Canada is above or below another Person.


The pecking order goes :
God
You and I
Queen
And last but not least, Government.

I suppose excepting the likes of Pickton, Bernardo and possible a couple of dozen others!
 

petros

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I suppose I could have said "populace", but it means the same thing!-:)
If 'society" or "populace" were straight across the board, we wouldn't have any legal variances from province to province, region to region or township to township.

I suppose excepting the likes of Pickton, Bernardo and possible a couple of dozen others!
How are they exceptions? How do their rights differ than yours or mine?
 

JLM

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If 'society" or "populace" were straight across the board, we wouldn't have any legal variances from province to province, region to region or township to township.


How are they exceptions? How do their rights differ than yours or mine?

You're getting too "deep" for my feeble mind, Petros!-:)
 

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Its hard not to agree that government oversteps beyond its boundaries on many levels every day.
 

petros

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Its hard not to agree that government oversteps beyond its boundaries on many levels every day.
The "Government" is just an agency that works on behalf of and for the People. They are not the end all be all with unlimited powers deciding what is right and wrong or who can or can't do things. IF People understood that, then maybe Govt wouldn't be seemingly overstepping it's boundaries on many levels everyday.

Well I keep answering and keep on asking- Is this a one way conversation- You ask I answer but I cannot ask????
The above has not been answered yet
It hasn't?

Since i don't recognize any god or royalty I guess it is
You and I
Government
Right. Still below you and I.
 

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The "Government" is just an agency that works on behalf of and for the People. They are not the end all be all with unlimited powers deciding what is right and wrong or who can or can't do things. IF People understood that, then maybe Govt wouldn't be seemingly overstepping it's boundaries on many levels everyday.

I don't blame people for wanting to break free.
Law Makers have no idea where to draw the line.

Count how many law's you knowingly break everyday.
I can think of 5 already , and that's only
my morning drive in.

Its total horse shiit
 
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Freethinkr

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It is astounding how many of you know not of which you speak.
I too was a nay sayer, until I did thorough research.

"They" have solid points, but are often misrepresented by a few glaring cases.
One should look into the woman who started a big movement in B.C.
She's certainly not a crack pot. And look into what gone birth certificate is about. Read and understand things like Section 2 of the Charter is about, and how ones rights cannot.be waived...unless you waive them.

One should also look carefully into the history of "jurisdiction", and things like oaths, and taxes from the feudal days...and who freemen originally we're. Some later called them Quakers.
There is a plethora of info to go over before you gloss this over as a bunch of loser dissidents...or anarchists. I've seen some pretty nescient comments here...like complete ignorance as to what anarchy is...as opposed to a Freeman, for example. I can't really accredit any validity to an opinion that doesn't even know what It it they are discrediting.
 

DaSleeper

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It is astounding how many of you know not of which you speak.
I too was a nay sayer, until I did thorough research.

"They" have solid points, but are often misrepresented by a few glaring cases.
One should look into the woman who started a big movement in B.C.
She's certainly not a crack pot. And look into what gone birth certificate is about. Read and understand things like Section 2 of the Charter is about, and how ones rights cannot.be waived...unless you waive them.

One should also look carefully into the history of "jurisdiction", and things like oaths, and taxes from the feudal days...and who freemen originally we're. Some later called them Quakers.
There is a plethora of info to go over before you gloss this over as a bunch of loser dissidents...or anarchists. I've seen some pretty nescient comments here...like complete ignorance as to what anarchy is...as opposed to a Freeman, for example. I can't really accredit any validity to an opinion that doesn't even know what It it they are discrediting.
Great reflection on your own post....8O
 

CDNBear

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Law Makers have no idea where to draw the line.
That's why we have the Charter.

Count how many law's you knowingly break everyday.
I can think of 5 already , and that's only
my morning drive in.
So?

Its total horse shiit
Not really.

It is astounding how many of you know not of which you speak.
I too was a nay sayer, until I did thorough research.

"They" have solid points, but are often misrepresented by a few glaring cases.
One should look into the woman who started a big movement in B.C.
She's certainly not a crack pot. And look into what gone birth certificate is about. Read and understand things like Section 2 of the Charter is about, and how ones rights cannot.be waived...unless you waive them.

One should also look carefully into the history of "jurisdiction", and things like oaths, and taxes from the feudal days...and who freemen originally we're. Some later called them Quakers.
There is a plethora of info to go over before you gloss this over as a bunch of loser dissidents...or anarchists. I've seen some pretty nescient comments here...like complete ignorance as to what anarchy is...as opposed to a Freeman, for example. I can't really accredit any validity to an opinion that doesn't even know what It it they are discrediting.
I've researched it too, since I come from a long line of live off the land, by the blood sweat and tears of it, free type men.

But having an excellent grasp of the law and reality, I was forced to come to the conclusion that the Freeman movement is nuttier than squirrel shyte.
 

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Seems the Freeman isin't the only such concept floating around........




Clarke and Mary Margaret Webster believed that taxes were unconstitutional and that the federal government created a parallel legal system based on the Hollywood movie The Matrix that allowed them to opt out from paying them.

On Monday, those beliefs landed the couple on house arrest, facing a $342,407 tax bill that will likely cost them their home, and left them in personal and professional ruin.

Clarke Webster, a 63-year-old Ottawa dentist and grandfather, admitted to failing to declare income from his dental practice over a six-year period beginning in 2004, the same year he became a follower of B.C. man Russ Porisky and his Paradigm tax evasion scheme.

His wife failed to declare income from her position as his office manager over a similar, five-year period.

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