For The Record, I Think This Is A Stupid Idea

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Don't be silly. You only see me as morally superior because you're an admitted psychopath. You should understand that you are responsible for how you see the world.
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I guess if we can't have you produce positively to the forum then we'll keep you arround to have someone to laugh at.
 
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Should women be offered paid menstrual leave?

Published Wednesday, December 10, 2014 11:16AM EST
Last Updated Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:06PM EST
For many women, "that special time of the month" -- their menstrual period -- brings such pain and discomfort, they simply stay home from work. But what if women were allowed to take a few days off each month for menstrual leave, separate from their sick leave, without worrying about losing their jobs?
It's an idea that isn't new: several other east Asian countries have had menstrual leave policies and laws in place for decades. But the idea has become a hot point of discussion in the U.K. after being raised again at the Festival of Ideas, in Cambridge, last month.
Gynecologist Dr. Gedis Grudzinskas, who was on that panel, says he likes the idea of menstrual leave. He says the patients who come to him are often struggling with their reproductive health and are worried that their positions at work may be jeopardized if they take time off work to address their problems.




"I don't think that's fair. It's time to look at this again," he told CTV News Channel Wednesday from London.
Grudzinskas says the idea is not so much about giving special status to women with menstrual problems or helping them earn more money, but ensuring that employers be more sensitive to their workers' health needs.
Japan was the first country to enact menstrual leave laws into their labour standards. That was back in 1947, when women were flooding into the workplace and where decent washroom facilities were unavailable to them.
Under the Japanese law, women are allowed to stay home from work during their periods without fear of losing their jobs, although companies do not need to pay them for the days off. The law does not limit how many days off a month they can take.
In South Korea, women are entitled to one day of menstrual leave a month and can get additional pay from their employers if they choose not to take it. Indonesian women are entitled to two days a month of menstrual leave.
Taiwan brought in menstrual leave legislation only recently, in 2013, guaranteeing women three days of menstrual leave a year on top of the 30 days of half-paid sick leave all workers receive.
Some have criticized the laws as unfair to men, or furthering the mistaken belief that women are weak and controlled by their hormones. But the reality is that in many areas, the laws are now rarely used.
A report in the Korea Times found that few women take the menstrual leave they're entitled to, particularly if they work in male-dominated workplaces. Some women are too embarrassed to ask for the time from their bosses, others say they are too busy to stay home.
Emily Matchar writes in The Atlantic that the number of women taking menstrual leave in Japan plummeted over the second half of the 20th century.
But given that so many women suffer real, debilitating pain during their periods, Grudzinskas told the Mail Online that he thinks menstrual leave is an idea worth exploring further.
"Menstrual leave will make people feel more happy and comfortable in the workplace, which is a positive thing," he said.

Read more: Should women be offered paid menstrual leave? | CTV News

The last thing we need to be doing is catering to more whining. If things are truly that bad, seek medical intervention because for probably 99% of us, we can manage just fine.
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Oh suck it up ladies.................... thousands upon thousands of women have somehow managed to get through the discomfort and carry on with their lives.
 
petros

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It's an idea that isn't new: several other east Asian countries have had menstrual leave policies and laws in place for decades
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. Why? Why do some Asian countries allow women to skip work? The same reason my Native buddy sends his wife and daughter to stay at his sister's? To give them a break because of their cramps and pains? LMFAO
 
Twila

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Using pms as an excuse to not be responsible for your health or emotional state is unacceptable.

If you are one of those rare unfortunate women who suffer excruciating pain, they would/should have a prescription for the appropriate pain killers and can still take a sick day. No need for special treatment sick days.

I think this further sets women up to NOT be competitive in the work place.
 
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phone in sick and then smoke a joint,it is not your employers business on knowing what your ailments are,just don't go to work if one is in such discomfort,don't tell your employer anything about your health.(I think they snoop,no big deal with the snooping,i don't really care)
 
JLM

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personal touch said:
phone in sick and then smoke a joint,it is not your employers business on knowing what your ailments are,just don't go to work if one is in such discomfort,don't tell your employer anything about your health.(I think they snoop,no big deal with the snooping,i don't really care)
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I'm a little old fashioned (reasonably honest) but I think if the boss is paying your wages when you are sick, you should be honest with him/her. You don't have to give details of your illness, just be unable to perform your job in a safe and effective manner without infecting others. Booking off sick to gain an extra holiday is just F**king everyone around!
 
MHz

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How much does it pay, I might have some cramps coming on. Any disease I can catch that gives me two a month? I'm thinking all posters on this thread could take advantage of the offer, lol.

I Think I need a t-shirt that says 'Really?'

JLM said:
(reasonably honest)
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You going to lie about what that actually means?
 
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MHz said:
You going to lie about what that actually means?
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Why would I? It means being honest to the point of doing no harm to anyone. It means not screwing people around who have a "need to know". It means operating within the realm of "minding one's own business", like if I see my neighbour who lives on welfare, earning $10 a week cutting grass, I don't feel obligated to report him. Savvy?
 
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Every time I see this issue come up in my FB feed my first thought is "Im not going to touch that one." No matter what side you pick you will be b*tched at.
 
MHz

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JLM said:
Why would I? It means being honest to the point of doing no harm to anyone. It means not screwing people around who have a "need to know". It means operating within the realm of "minding one's own business", like if I see my neighbour who lives on welfare, earning $10 a week cutting grass, I don't feel obligated to report him. Savvy?
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Not that difficult to understand. How about the old guy who gets a big dog in case things go wrong, who do you thing is the last meal for whom, if you picked dog eats man that is the correct answer as the dog has a better chance at surviving. Clear or not that is a solution to possible situation. Your own dog will wait till you're dead, strange dogs don't have those kinds of table manors.
 
Twila

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JLM said:
I'm a little old fashioned (reasonably honest) but I think if the boss is paying your wages when you are sick, you should be honest with him/her. You don't have to give details of your illness, just be unable to perform your job in a safe and effective manner without infecting others. Booking off sick to gain an extra holiday is just F**king everyone around!
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Sometimes they call them mental health days. You're not contagious sick, you could go to work and not infect anybody but you wouldn't be productive. You would be well served by a day off for mental health and the next day be twice as productive. If you're being honest, mind you.

I think sick days are like a gift. You don't get to decide what the person does with the gift you've given.
 
Dixie Cup

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A woman I work with has horrific menstrual cramps and she suffers for over a week each month. She'd end up missing a lot of time from work of they brought something like that in.


However, after suffering for years, she and her doctor have finally found a medical procedure that she hopes will work and relieve her of her pain every month. I hope it works for her. She rarely misses work but I'm sure it must be very hard for her during this time.


I, on the other hand, suffered each month as well but only for a couple of days. It wasn't fun!! A couple of days was one thing but over a week?? I'd have killed myself me thinks!


JMO
 
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Interesting thing about government workers and sick days in that they can bank them and at retirement get cashed out for unused ones. Which makes it an entitlement, not an insurance policy.
 
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