Fed up with Islam Yet???
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I just got this in my email this morning which sums up Islam succinctly in a nutshell. Wish more people had the same guts as this woman.
"Written by a housewife, to her daily newspaper. This is one ticked off lady.
'Are we fighting a war on terror or aren't we? Was it or was it not started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores in July 2002, and in New York Sept 112001 and have continually threatened to do so since?
Were people from all over the world, not brutally murdered that day in Washington , and in downtown Manhattan , and in a field in Pennsylvania ?
Did nearly three thousand men, women and children die a horrible, burning or crushing death that day, or didn't they?
And I'm supposed to care that a few Taliban were claiming to be tortured by a justice system of the nation they come from and are fighting against in a brutal insurgency.
I'll care about the Koran when the fanatics in the Middle East start caring about the Holy Bible, the mere belief of which is a crime punishable by beheading in Afghanistan
I'll care when these thugs tell the world they are sorry for hacking off Nick Berg's head while Berg screamed through his gurgling slashed throat.
I'll care when the cowardly so-called 'insurgents' in Afghanistan come out and fight like men instead of disrespecting their own religion by hiding in mosques and behind women and children.
I'll care when the mindless zealots who blow themselves up in search of Nirvana care about the innocent children within range of their suicide bombs.
I'll care when the British media stops pretending that their freedom of speech on stories is more important than the lives of the soldiers on the ground or their families waiting at home to hear about them when something happens.
In the meantime, when I hear a story about a British soldier roughing up an Insurgent terrorist to obtain information, know this:
I don't care.
When I see a wounded terrorist get shot in the head when he is told not to move because he might be booby-trapped, you can take this to the bank:
I don't care.
When I hear that a prisoner - who was issued a Koran and a prayer mat, and 'fed special food' that is paid for by my taxes - is complaining that his holy book is being 'mishandled,' you can absolutely believe in your heart of hearts:
I don't care.
And oh, by the way, I've noticed that sometimes it's spelled 'Koran' and other times 'Quran.' Well, believe me!! You guessed it ......
I don't care!!
If you agree with this viewpoint, pass this on to all your E-mail friends. Sooner or later, it'll get to the people responsible for this ridiculous Behaviour!
If you don't agree, then by all means hit the delete button. Should you choose the latter, then please don't complain when more atrocities committed by radical Muslims happen here in our great country! And may I add:
'Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. Our soldiers don't have that problem.'
I have another quote that I would like to add, AND.......I hope you forward all this.
Only six defining forces have ever offered to die for you:
1. Jesus Christ
2. The British Soldier.
3. The Canadian Soldier.
4. The US Soldier,
5. The New Zealand Soldier
6. The Australian Soldier
One died for your soul, the other 5 for your freedom.
YOU MIGHT WANT TO PASS THIS ON, AS MANY SEEM TO FORGET ABOUT ALL OF THEM.
AMEN!"
"Written by a housewife, to her daily newspaper. This is one ticked off lady.
'Are we fighting a war on terror or aren't we? Was it or was it not started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores in July 2002, and in New York Sept 112001 and have continually threatened to do so since?
Were people from all over the world, not brutally murdered that day in Washington , and in downtown Manhattan , and in a field in Pennsylvania ?
Did nearly three thousand men, women and children die a horrible, burning or crushing death that day, or didn't they?
And I'm supposed to care that a few Taliban were claiming to be tortured by a justice system of the nation they come from and are fighting against in a brutal insurgency.
I'll care about the Koran when the fanatics in the Middle East start caring about the Holy Bible, the mere belief of which is a crime punishable by beheading in Afghanistan
I'll care when these thugs tell the world they are sorry for hacking off Nick Berg's head while Berg screamed through his gurgling slashed throat.
I'll care when the cowardly so-called 'insurgents' in Afghanistan come out and fight like men instead of disrespecting their own religion by hiding in mosques and behind women and children.
I'll care when the mindless zealots who blow themselves up in search of Nirvana care about the innocent children within range of their suicide bombs.
I'll care when the British media stops pretending that their freedom of speech on stories is more important than the lives of the soldiers on the ground or their families waiting at home to hear about them when something happens.
In the meantime, when I hear a story about a British soldier roughing up an Insurgent terrorist to obtain information, know this:
I don't care.
When I see a wounded terrorist get shot in the head when he is told not to move because he might be booby-trapped, you can take this to the bank:
I don't care.
When I hear that a prisoner - who was issued a Koran and a prayer mat, and 'fed special food' that is paid for by my taxes - is complaining that his holy book is being 'mishandled,' you can absolutely believe in your heart of hearts:
I don't care.
And oh, by the way, I've noticed that sometimes it's spelled 'Koran' and other times 'Quran.' Well, believe me!! You guessed it ......
I don't care!!
If you agree with this viewpoint, pass this on to all your E-mail friends. Sooner or later, it'll get to the people responsible for this ridiculous Behaviour!
If you don't agree, then by all means hit the delete button. Should you choose the latter, then please don't complain when more atrocities committed by radical Muslims happen here in our great country! And may I add:
'Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. Our soldiers don't have that problem.'
I have another quote that I would like to add, AND.......I hope you forward all this.
Only six defining forces have ever offered to die for you:
1. Jesus Christ
2. The British Soldier.
3. The Canadian Soldier.
4. The US Soldier,
5. The New Zealand Soldier
6. The Australian Soldier
One died for your soul, the other 5 for your freedom.
YOU MIGHT WANT TO PASS THIS ON, AS MANY SEEM TO FORGET ABOUT ALL OF THEM.
AMEN!"
Prudent advice.
If someone needs to see what someone else is up to, see what the newest and latest vile posting is that will offend them and send them retali-posting, best to just grow a set, thicken your skin or pass the thread up entirely. You've been here before, know the score, the smell and all like that. Save yourself while you can m'kay.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/17/o...?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20121217&_r=0
We have our own Terry Jones.
We have our own Terry Jones.
When was the last time a Muslim went into an elementary school and shot 20 children and 6 teachers?
Funny how when a non-Muslim commits a horrendous crime, religion isn't a factor, yet whenever a Muslim commits a crime, religion is always the main cause.... at least according to this thread.
Based on the line of thought in this thread, if all Muslims stopped observing their religion, the entire Muslim world would be crime free.
In general most Muslims like more non-Muslims are law abiding citizens who love their families and contribute positively to society. Individuals from any religion can be evil...
No, they were too busy flying into three buildings and killing 2800 people- kind of trumps Connecticut, don't you think?
Mercaz HaRav massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Ma'alot massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Ahhh......that would be because Islam IS the main cause when a Muslim goes on a shooting spree.......they are encouraged by the religion and by their leaders to kill Jews.
American Trial Attorneys in Defense of Israel: MEMRI: Egyptian children's television show: 'We must liberate Jerusalem from the hands of the disgusting Jews'
MEMRI: Egyptian Child Preacher Muhammad Osama Recounts Antisemitic Hadith: Jews Hide Behind the Gharqad Tree When Muslims Come to Kill Them on Judgment Day
ya but the difference is that the animal that killed the children did not do it in the name of his God, which makes it isolated, when it is done in a name of a God it becomes a threat.
9/11 is a direct consequence of a US foreign policy based greed and religious superiority. Considering the level of suffering and death resulting from US foreign policy, a 9/11 event was inevitable, regardless of region.
March 1997
REPORTER: Mr. Bin Ladin, you've declared a jihad against the United States. Can you tell us why? And is the jihad directed against the US government or the United States' troops in Arabia? What about US civilians in Arabia or the people of the United States?
BIN LADIN: We declared jihad against the US government, because the US government is unjust, criminal and tyrannical. It has committed acts that are extremely unjust, hideous and criminal whether directly or through its support of the Israeli occupation of the Prophet's Night Travel Land (Palestine). And we believe the US is directly responsible for those who were killed in Palestine, Lebanon and Iraq. The mention of the US reminds us before everything else of those innocent children who were dismembered, their heads and arms cut off in the recent explosion that took place in Qana (in Lebanon). This US government abandoned even humanitarian feelings by these hideous crimes. It transgressed all bounds and behaved in a way not witnessed before by any power or any imperialist power in the world. They should have been considerate that the qibla (Mecca) of the Muslims upheaves the emotion of the entire Muslim World. Due to its subordination to the Jews the arrogance and haughtiness of the US regime has reached, to the extent that they occupied the qibla of the Muslims (Arabia) who are more than a billion in the world today.
REPORTER: Let's go to the bombings of United States troops in Riyadh and Dhahran. Why did they happen and were you and your supporters involved in these attacks?
BIN LADIN: We ask about the main reason that called for this explosion. This explosion was a reaction to a US provocation of the Muslim peoples, in which the US transgressed in its aggression until it reached the qibla of the Muslims in the whole world. So, the purpose of of the two explosions is to get the American occupation out (of Arabia). So if the U.S. does not want to kill its sons who are in the army, then it has to get out. ...
Transcript of Osama Bin Ladin interview by Peter Arnett
Bin Laden refers to this incident which resulted in the deaths of 106 civilians and wounding hundreds more. More than half of the dead were children.:
Factsheet: Qana and Belhas v. Ya'alon | Center for Constitutional Rights
and to US support of the brutal and oppressive Saudi Dictatorship.
During the years which preceded 9/11, the US used its bases in Saudi Arabia to bomb Iraq repeatedly and support a US led embargo against Iraqi which was killing about 4000 Iraqi children per month at the time of Bin Laden's interview... Sanctions which remained in placed long after Iraq had renounced WMDs and demonstrated cooperation with UN Weapon Inspectors.
But I don't really expect Islamaphobes to care about dead Iraqi children as most Islamaphopbes don't really consider Muslims to be people deserving of fundamental human rights... or at least I've never heard an Islamaphobe acknowledge Muslim suffering.
Madeleine Albright - 60 Minutes - YouTube
Lesley Stahl on U.S. sanctions against Iraq: We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?
Secretary of State Madeleine Albright: I think this is a very hard choice, but the price--we think the price is worth it.
--60 Minutes (5/12/96)
While Americans didn't loose any sleep over hundreds of thousands of starving Iraqi children, most of the Muslim world was outraged.
By 1996, Iraq no longer possessed a WMD capability, yet the sanctions remained in place until 2003, probably about a decade after the destruction of Iraq's WMD capability and about 6 years after Iraq had tried to lift the embargo through cooperating with UN weapon inspections. By 1998, UN weapon inspectors had stopped looking for WMDs in Iraq and instead acted as spies for the US. This article will clear up many misconceptions Canadians have regarding sanctions against the Iraqi people:
Iraqi Sanctions: Myth and Fact
This video describes the situation of Iraqi children as a direct consequence of the US led embargo:
WARNING: GRAPHIC IMAGES. However, the video accurately portrays the situation in Iraq prior to 2003 and anyone who watches this documentary will understand why a 9/11 attack against the US was inevitable, regardless of religion.
March 1997
REPORTER: Mr. Bin Ladin, you've declared a jihad against the United States. Can you tell us why? And is the jihad directed against the US government or the United States' troops in Arabia? What about US civilians in Arabia or the people of the United States?
BIN LADIN: We declared jihad against the US government, because the US government is unjust, criminal and tyrannical. It has committed acts that are extremely unjust, hideous and criminal whether directly or through its support of the Israeli occupation of the Prophet's Night Travel Land (Palestine). And we believe the US is directly responsible for those who were killed in Palestine, Lebanon and Iraq. The mention of the US reminds us before everything else of those innocent children who were dismembered, their heads and arms cut off in the recent explosion that took place in Qana (in Lebanon). This US government abandoned even humanitarian feelings by these hideous crimes. It transgressed all bounds and behaved in a way not witnessed before by any power or any imperialist power in the world. They should have been considerate that the qibla (Mecca) of the Muslims upheaves the emotion of the entire Muslim World. Due to its subordination to the Jews the arrogance and haughtiness of the US regime has reached, to the extent that they occupied the qibla of the Muslims (Arabia) who are more than a billion in the world today.
REPORTER: Let's go to the bombings of United States troops in Riyadh and Dhahran. Why did they happen and were you and your supporters involved in these attacks?
BIN LADIN: We ask about the main reason that called for this explosion. This explosion was a reaction to a US provocation of the Muslim peoples, in which the US transgressed in its aggression until it reached the qibla of the Muslims in the whole world. So, the purpose of of the two explosions is to get the American occupation out (of Arabia). So if the U.S. does not want to kill its sons who are in the army, then it has to get out. ...
Transcript of Osama Bin Ladin interview by Peter Arnett
Bin Laden refers to this incident which resulted in the deaths of 106 civilians and wounding hundreds more. More than half of the dead were children.:
Factsheet: Qana and Belhas v. Ya'alon | Center for Constitutional Rights
and to US support of the brutal and oppressive Saudi Dictatorship.
During the years which preceded 9/11, the US used its bases in Saudi Arabia to bomb Iraq repeatedly and support a US led embargo against Iraqi which was killing about 4000 Iraqi children per month at the time of Bin Laden's interview... Sanctions which remained in placed long after Iraq had renounced WMDs and demonstrated cooperation with UN Weapon Inspectors.
But I don't really expect Islamaphobes to care about dead Iraqi children as most Islamaphopbes don't really consider Muslims to be people deserving of fundamental human rights... or at least I've never heard an Islamaphobe acknowledge Muslim suffering.
Madeleine Albright - 60 Minutes - YouTube
Lesley Stahl on U.S. sanctions against Iraq: We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?
Secretary of State Madeleine Albright: I think this is a very hard choice, but the price--we think the price is worth it.
--60 Minutes (5/12/96)
While Americans didn't loose any sleep over hundreds of thousands of starving Iraqi children, most of the Muslim world was outraged.
By 1996, Iraq no longer possessed a WMD capability, yet the sanctions remained in place until 2003, probably about a decade after the destruction of Iraq's WMD capability and about 6 years after Iraq had tried to lift the embargo through cooperating with UN weapon inspections. By 1998, UN weapon inspectors had stopped looking for WMDs in Iraq and instead acted as spies for the US. This article will clear up many misconceptions Canadians have regarding sanctions against the Iraqi people:
Iraqi Sanctions: Myth and Fact
This video describes the situation of Iraqi children as a direct consequence of the US led embargo:
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You don't know that the actions of 9/11 were based on greed, and lets not forget that a portion of US foreign policy was strongly supported by the ruling body(s) in a number of ME nations.
Much of the above is based on individual and subjective interpretation by those that seek to justify the actions... None of the above speaks for ALL Muslims.
You'll also notice that there is no mention of the violent actions that these folks have perpetuated against their own. In the end, they have an agenda just like everyone else
Many of those brutal ME dictators who cruelly oppress their people were created and are supported by the US or Western colonizing powers. Mubarak of Egypt and the Saudi Royal family are two examples. Bin Laden was able to tap into widespread anger and rage to recruit militants. 9/11 was an inevitable consequence of US foreign policies.
I fully agree it is unfair to tar all Muslims with the same brush, BUT we do know that in Muslim nations human rights are curtailed, ESPECIALLY with regards to women. They have very few rights as far as education, freedom of movement, freedom to dress as they want, freedom to form relationships. That would tell me that it is more than a minority of Muslims advocating this, otherwise there would be a major revolution.
The difference is that in the west we try as much as we can to separate church and state, because everyone knows that religion is the main reason for wars and killing and hatred, and has a very long history of persecution and injustice in the name of their Gods and beliefs.
The risk I see with the Muslim religion is that their religion comes before state, it is their law, and their religion and law are one. Not only that, then want it to supersede our own laws and use our constitutions as grounds to implement their own religious agenda.
But by saying this we are considered to not being politically correct, and we certainly would not want to offend anyone.
The risk I see with the Muslim religion is that their religion comes before state, it is their law, and their religion and law are one. Not only that, then want it to supersede our own laws and use our constitutions as grounds to implement their own religious agenda.
But by saying this we are considered to not being politically correct, and we certainly would not want to offend anyone.