Enough farting around on Iran & Nukes
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When it comes to Asia, South America and Africa they completely dropped the ball.
Only until those beautiful, righteous and holy Asian, South American and African countries need help after any and all natural and man-made disaster. That is when hypocrisy rears its beautiful head and should the United States (which according to our resident genius, dropped the ball) refuse any aid to these free-loading bastards, those who loudly condemn the United States now would cry foul even louder.
Right, petros?
Doesn't bother me any and when you get flooded out in Winnipeg this spring you can be a freeloader too but I'll still help you even if you are a freeloader.
You were aware that "aid" comes in the form of loans right? Pakistan has to pay $50 million in interest come Jan 1 for their "aid".
There is no hyphen in freeloader. Back to ESL for you! Even though I'll probably have to fund that too.
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Is that the only fault aside from the title. Really, you're going to have to work on that.
petros, my flood insurance is fully paid. I promise I will not cost you a single penny.
When it comes to spelling you are a nit-picker. Or is there a hyphen there? Oh, God, worthy for a pathetically unilingual person to criticize the language of another who was not lucky enough to inherit a language to abuse as you do.
Neither you nor any citizen paid for my learning English. I learned it the hard way, you know, supporting myself, to survive. Something a free-loader who got all his advantages from his parents, like you, could never understand.
Note that I used the hyphen again just to irritate you. So, call me a troll.
Colpy, you've never commented on Israel's well documented war crimes. Here they are again:
The IDF deliberately targeting civilians are war crimes.
The IDF pounding densely populated urban areas with heavy artillery and chemical weapons are war crimes.
The IDF deliberating targeting ambulances, medics, hospitals, nurses and doctors are war crimes.
The IDF abduction of civilians and use as human shields to block gunfire and shield IDF soldiers from explosive devices are war crimes.
The IDF deliberating attacking civilian infrastructure (schools and universities, bomb shelters, water and sewage treatment, power generation, farms, food processing centers...) without any military objective are war crimes.
Israel's ongoing humanitarian aid blockade which restricts food and medicine for 1.4 million Gazans and leads to malnutrition and people dying of easily treated diseases is a crime against humanity because of the level of suffering and number of people affected.
The IDF deliberately targeting civilians are war crimes.
The IDF pounding densely populated urban areas with heavy artillery and chemical weapons are war crimes.
The IDF deliberating targeting ambulances, medics, hospitals, nurses and doctors are war crimes.
The IDF abduction of civilians and use as human shields to block gunfire and shield IDF soldiers from explosive devices are war crimes.
The IDF deliberating attacking civilian infrastructure (schools and universities, bomb shelters, water and sewage treatment, power generation, farms, food processing centers...) without any military objective are war crimes.
Israel's ongoing humanitarian aid blockade which restricts food and medicine for 1.4 million Gazans and leads to malnutrition and people dying of easily treated diseases is a crime against humanity because of the level of suffering and number of people affected.
There is no indication from that article - other than the Dark Tower imagery and an unqualified statement - that Iran has any motive or even the means to take on the U.S. or France or whatever western state.
The entire article hinges on the expertise of an Israeli Defence head - and it's no surprise. If Iran is to make some sort of move it's not because they are a direct threat to the U.S. It's because they will eventually pull in the U.S. by attacking Israel. And Israel should have no problem taking them on - in fact, they could have taken care of them and Palestine a looooong long time ago. They're just waiting to get the U.S. to help them go in and run over their comparatively powerless state.
This is possibly a holy war where christians and jews are getting together to snuff out muslims. And all they need to do is make these muslim nations look like they are some sort of legitimate threat when the reality is that they're pitifully primitive compared to us.
The fact that Iran could have the balls to even launch a nuke on anyone would result in their quick and decisive annihilation. It's not even a contest. Same goes for Pakistan or Korea. We have the power to murder these nations in the blink of an eye just like we destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
There is no real threat to the U.S.
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In the mean time China's borders keep growing and it's influence runs rampant....
''same planet'' ??
Joke of the millenium!
Who invaded Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam? Who led ''incursions'' into the Caribbean, Mexico, and Central America? Whose CIA toppled more governments (including democratically elected governments) than any other country? Who has propped up more bloodletting dictators?
Colpy, once again your ignorance and bias is showing so take off the rose colored glasses and lay off the bong water.
Joke of the millenium!
Who invaded Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam? Who led ''incursions'' into the Caribbean, Mexico, and Central America? Whose CIA toppled more governments (including democratically elected governments) than any other country? Who has propped up more bloodletting dictators?
Colpy, once again your ignorance and bias is showing so take off the rose colored glasses and lay off the bong water.
Well I see you have come out of your burrow and see the light - Why is it that when i rebut - meaning tear your points apart you burrow long and deep - i know that it is not for a well informed or even well thought out reply. Guess i scare you with those seemingly hard questions.
I did. And even if I actually cared to add up the numbers (Which in no way is meant to excuse US involvement in atrocities), the US pales in comparison to Socialist dictators, they didn't install.
For someone that tries to pretend they're well balanced. You keep tipping your ideological cards, too carelessly.
"zionists" "conservative zombies".
Your ideology is showing MF.
I really don't know what planet you're living on, when you whitewash the misdeeds of other nations, or ignore historical death tolls that paint a far darker picture of other forms of Gov't. Instead expending an inordinate amount of energy and time, trying to make yourself feel better, by taking easy shots at the US.
As are a great many of your posts.
France, Soviet Russia, to name two.
You like the rest of the bobble heads, fail to realise that a nation will expend whatever it can to protect its own interests. It just so happens that the US has a great deal of resources at its disposal.
If I were to use yours and the rest of your ilk's logic. I could just as easily blame France for the atrocities committed by the US, for their involvement in her birth.
I don't, because I'm not prone to faulty logic and playing fast and loose with "connect the dots" like some.
Directed at all those that like to sit at their monitors and bleat on endlessly about the Great Satan, the US.
Get off the net, sell your car, start chopping down trees to heat your homes, stop watching TV.
You have the life you have and live in the relative security you do, because the US exists in the capacity it does.
That's not to say that the US hasn't brought its fair share of misery upon itself. But rather, we enjoy a standard of living and safety, because the US is the US it is. And before you cry about terrorism, remember all the posts you people have posted about it being made up. So please try not to sell yourselves out to easily.
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Ah, we are talking about Iran. The US is threatening to nuke the place because it doesn't want Iran to join their exclusive little club. I don't see any other country, besides Israel, threatening Iran except maybe whoever the US can arm twist into joining their little hate on. Why would I bother mentioning what other despotic countries are doing when they are not part of the debate here?
Really? I couldn't tell with all the childish, typical anti Americanism going on.
Please show me where the US has said it is considering a nuclear strike or even military intervention. Because they aren't, that's just your version of fear mongering.
You people have swallowed so much tripe and BS, while pointing fingers and accusing anyone that disagrees with an tyrannical country like Iran, run by a mentally imbalanced loon, possessing the ability to expunge entire nations in a single act, of being neo cons, war mongers and so on. While using the same tactics as Faux News.
The ironic humour is palpable.
You too should do some more research.
Neither is the pathetic little connect the dots game the usual suspects, such as yourself, are playing. But that's besides the point, I was eluding to your displaced, and disproportional anti Americanism, in general.
Everyone gets a pass, but the US. Or Israel.
Good grief, the hypocrisy is so thick, it's chocking off the logical thought processes of you people.
My experience is that 40% of liberals and 90% of conservatives are morons. Statsfloss.ca. Admittedly, the sample size isn't that large and this is all based on anecdotal evidence, but until we get a more objective outlook, I'd be willing to be I'm not that far off.
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''Well I see you have come out of your burrow and see the light - Why is it that when i rebut - meaning tear your points apart you burrow long and deep - i know that it is not for a well informed or even well thought out reply. Guess i scare you with those seemingly hard questions.''
Nothing in your answer even remotely addresses or fails to refute the fact that it is the USA that has exported more terrorism and imperialism. We have had innumerable discussions about this on this forum for many years with your side coming out as perennial losers in these arguments. You can continue to live in the dream world you and others continue to live in. But nothing you and your fellow dreamers ever say will refute the truth.
Dream on.
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Angola's flag is socialist inspired?
Well, that's no surprise considering that it is Wall Street's Republican club of elites who pushed for communism throughout the world:
A picture that brings great delight into the hearts of every Republican on this forum.
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Nothing in your answer even remotely addresses or fails to refute the fact that it is the USA that has exported more terrorism and imperialism. We have had innumerable discussions about this on this forum for many years with your side coming out as perennial losers in these arguments. You can continue to live in the dream world you and others continue to live in. But nothing you and your fellow dreamers ever say will refute the truth.
Dream on.
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Angola's flag is socialist inspired?
Well, that's no surprise considering that it is Wall Street's Republican club of elites who pushed for communism throughout the world:
A picture that brings great delight into the hearts of every Republican on this forum.
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Communist is not socialist but yeah that is Angola's flag.
Luanda the capital even has a Chinatown.
They don't a have a leader that makes the Conservatives nervous so we hear jack **** about the take over of Africa by China.
Luanda the capital even has a Chinatown.
They don't a have a leader that makes the Conservatives nervous so we hear jack **** about the take over of Africa by China.
''Communist is not socialist but yeah that is Angola's flag.''
Both communism and socialism were both funded by Wall Street Republicans:
The Hidden Evil: Wall Street funded Communists
Wall Street funded Communists
Professor Sutton stated, "Western textbooks on Soviet economic development omit any description of the economic and financial aid given to the 1917 Revolution and subsequent economic development by Western Firms and banks." "In the Bolshevik Revolution we have some of the world's richest and most powerful men financing a movement which claims its very existence is based on the concept of stripping of their wealth," declared Allen. "[M]en like the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Schiffs, Warburgs, Morgans, Harrimans, and Milners."
Perloff agreed, "Jacob Schiff, the head of Kuhn, Loeb and Co., heavily bankrolled the [Communist] revolution. This was reported by White Russian General Arsine de Goulevitch in his book Czarism and the Revolution." "According to his grandson John," described Allen, "Jacob Schiff ... long-time associate of the Rothschilds, financed the Communist Revolution in Russia to the tune of $20 million." He continued, "According to a report on file with the State Department, his firm, Kuhn Loeb and Co. bankrolled the first five year plan for Stalin," and added, "Schiff's descendents are active in the Council on Foreign Relations today."
Referring to the emergence of a communist dictatorship which resulted from the Bolshevik Revolution in 1917, Professor Marrs wrote that they were funded by "Germany and America. ... Their repugnant campaign to purify and cleanse Mother Russia and to seek world domination resulted in ... [millions of] human beings wiped out and brutally purged..." He attested, "Brown Brothers Harriman" helped finance it with "money made possible by it and the affiliated Guaranty Trust Company." Professor Sutton agreed, writing "W. Averell Harriman was a director of Guaranty Trust Company" and "was involved in the Bolshevik Revolution."
On February 3, 1949, the New York Journal-American stated, "Today it is estimated even by Jacob's grandson, John Schiff, a prominent member of New York Society, that the old man sank about $20,000,000 for the final triumph of Bolshevism in Russia. Other New York banking firms also contributed."
Referring to a June 15, 1933, Congressional Record, Allen wrote "Congressman Louis McFadden, chairman of the House Banking Committee, maintained in a speech to his fellow Congressman: "The Soviet government has been given United States Treasure funds by the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks acting through the Chase Bank and the Guaranty Trust Company and other banks in New York City. ... Open up the books of Amtorg, the trading organization of the Soviet government in New York, and of Gostorg, the general office of the Soviet Trade Organization, and of the State Bank of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and you will be staggered to see how much American money has been taken from the United States' Treasury for the benefit of Russia."
"Now our textbooks tell us that the Nazis and Soviets were bitter enemies and their systems are opposites," observed Professor Sutton. But in the "1920s, W. Averell Harriman was a prime supporter of the Soviets with finance and diplomatic assistance ... [and] participated in RUSKOMBANK," which was "the first Soviet commercial bank. Furthermore, Max May, the Vice President of Guaranty Trust, which was dominated by Harriman and Morgan, became the first Vice-President of Ruskombank." However, declared Professor Sutton, "Averell Harriman, his brother Roland Harriman, and ... E.S. James and Knight Woolley, through the Union Bank ... were prime financial backers of Hitler." He asked, "How could a rational man support Soviets and Nazis at the same time?"
A curious dilemma arises when faced with the documented fact that Wall Street funded both Communists and Nazis. First, it would seem these two forms of government are at opposite ends of the political spectrum. And that capitalists would see them as a threat to their growth. Allen provides a possible answer, writing, "But obviously these men have no fear of international Communism. It is only logical to assume that if they financed it, and are willing--even eager--to cooperate with it, it must be because they control it. Can there be another explanation that makes sense?" He adds, "Remember that for over 100 years it has been a standard operating procedure of the Rockefellers and their allies to control both sides of every conflict."
Before Winston Churchill became Prime Minister of Great Britain, he acknowledged a conscious effort of wealthy people to install a communist dictatorship in Russia. He wrote in the February 18th, 1920 issue of the London Illustrated Sunday Herald, that "From the days of Spartacus [Adam] Weishaupt ... to those of Karl Marx, to those of Trotsky, Bella Kuhn, Rose Luxembourg, and Emma Goldman, this world-wide conspiracy has been steadily growing." He affirmed, "It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th century; and now at last, this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically undisputed masters of that enormous empire."
After the Bolshevik Revolution, Wall Street ensured the communists would retain control of Russia. Professor Sutton described this effort when he wrote, "On may 1st, 1918, when the Bolsheviks controlled only a small fraction of Russia (and were to come near to losing even that fraction in the summer of 1918), the American League to Aid and Cooperate with Russia was organized in Washington, D.C to support the Bolsheviks. This was not a 'Hands off Russia' type of committee formed by the Communist Party U.S.A or its allies. It was a committee created by Wall Street with George P. Whalen of Vacuum Oil Company as Treasurer and Coffin and Oudin of General Electric, along with Thompson of the Federal Reserve System, Willard of the Baltimore and Ohio Railroad, and assorted socialists."
"The Bolsheviks were not a visible political force at the time the Czar abdicated," Allen wrote. "And they came to power not because of the downtrodden masses of Russia called them back, but because very powerful men in Europe and the United States sent them in. "They [Lenin and Trotsky] joined up, and, by November, though bribery, cunning, brutality and deception, they were able (not to bring the masses rallying to their cause, but) to hire enough thugs and make enough deals to impose out of the gun barrel what Lenin called 'all power to the Soviets.'"
"Having created their colony in Russia," said Allen, "the Rockefellers and their allies have struggled mightily ever since to keep it alive. Beginning in 1918 this clique has been engaged in transferring money and, probably more important, technical information to the Soviet Union." Perloff agreed, writing, "Probably no name symbolized capitalism more than Rockefeller. Yet that family has for decades supplied trade and credit to Communist nations. After the Bolsheviks took power, the Rockefellers' Standard Oil of New Jersey bought up Russian oil fields, while Standard Oil of New York built the soviets a refiner and made an arrangement to market their oil in Europe. During the 1920's the Rockefellers' Chase Bank helped found the American-Russian Chamber of Commerce, and was involved in financing Soviet raw material exports and selling Soviet bonds in the U.S."
According to Senator Barry Goldwater, Chase Manhattan built a truck factory in Russia which could also be used to produce armored vehicles such as tanks and even rocket launchers. Perloff echoed, "American technology helped the Soviets construct the $5 billion Kama River truck factory ... [which was] successfully converted by the Kremlin to military purposes."
Wall Street continued to aid the Russian communists as they supplied the Vietnamese communists that Americans were fighting in Vietnam, says Allen. In the late 60s Rockefeller and other industrialists built synthetic rubber plants and an aluminum factory totaling about 250 million dollars. Professor Sutton observed, "these American capitalists were willing to finance and subsidize the Soviet Union while the Vietnam War was underway, knowing that the Soviets were supplying the other side."
An article appeared in the New York Times on January 16, 1967, which carried the headline, Eaton Joins Rockefellers to Spur Trade with Reds. Perloff summed up the story, "The ensuing story noted that the Rockefellers were teaming up with tycoon Cyrus Eaton, Jr., who was financing for the Soviet block the construction of a $50 million aluminum plant and rubber plants valued at over $200 million." He added, "The Chase, which maintains a branch office at 1 Karl Marx Square in Moscow, has gained notoriety for financing projects behind the Iron Curtain."
Pictured left is Averill Harriman of the CFR (center) with Stalin (right) & Winston Churchill.(*) W. Averill Harriman was made U.S. Ambassador to the USSR in 1941. Allen wrote, "Sutton quotes a report by Averell Harriman to the State Department in June, 1944 as stating: 'Stalin paid tribute to the assistance rendered by the United States to Soviet industry before and during the war.'" "It is not an exaggeration to say that the USSR was made in the USA," observed Allen.
Referring to Professor Sutton's book, Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution, he wrote, "No one has even attempted to refute Sutton's almost excessively scholarly works. They can't. But the misinformation machines that compose our mediacracy can ignore Sutton. And they do." The book, added Perloff, "is based on assiduous research, including a deeper probe into State Department files."
Professor Sutton warned, "The synthesis sought by the Establishment is called the New World Order. Without controlled conflict this New World Order will not come about. ... And this is being done with the calculated, managed, use of conflict. ... This explains why the International bankers backed the Nazis, the Soviet Union, [and] North Korea ... against the United States. The 'conflict' ... [builds] profits while pushing the world ever closer to One World Government. The process continues today."
Summary
The evidence that these researchers present, which includes mainstream news and State Department records, suggests that Communist Russia was not only heavily funded by Wall Street, but was the actual creation of Wall Street. The Communist Revolution was instigated by Wall Street. Wall Street continued to build Russia even as they supplied aid to a country that America was at war with. Because they created communist Russia, they must have known about the millions of people being murdered.
[Footnotes]
* Photo taken from the Shadows of Power, by James Perloff.
All the deluded right wingers on this forum love to blame Democrats for the spread of left wing ideology but it is their fellow Republicans who are the ones responsible for that and for the Cold War. Professor Anthony Sutton who is referenced above and who wrote on this more than anyone else was a CONSERVATIVE.
Both communism and socialism were both funded by Wall Street Republicans:
The Hidden Evil: Wall Street funded Communists
Wall Street funded Communists
Professor Sutton stated, "Western textbooks on Soviet economic development omit any description of the economic and financial aid given to the 1917 Revolution and subsequent economic development by Western Firms and banks." "In the Bolshevik Revolution we have some of the world's richest and most powerful men financing a movement which claims its very existence is based on the concept of stripping of their wealth," declared Allen. "[M]en like the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Schiffs, Warburgs, Morgans, Harrimans, and Milners."
Perloff agreed, "Jacob Schiff, the head of Kuhn, Loeb and Co., heavily bankrolled the [Communist] revolution. This was reported by White Russian General Arsine de Goulevitch in his book Czarism and the Revolution." "According to his grandson John," described Allen, "Jacob Schiff ... long-time associate of the Rothschilds, financed the Communist Revolution in Russia to the tune of $20 million." He continued, "According to a report on file with the State Department, his firm, Kuhn Loeb and Co. bankrolled the first five year plan for Stalin," and added, "Schiff's descendents are active in the Council on Foreign Relations today."
Referring to the emergence of a communist dictatorship which resulted from the Bolshevik Revolution in 1917, Professor Marrs wrote that they were funded by "Germany and America. ... Their repugnant campaign to purify and cleanse Mother Russia and to seek world domination resulted in ... [millions of] human beings wiped out and brutally purged..." He attested, "Brown Brothers Harriman" helped finance it with "money made possible by it and the affiliated Guaranty Trust Company." Professor Sutton agreed, writing "W. Averell Harriman was a director of Guaranty Trust Company" and "was involved in the Bolshevik Revolution."
On February 3, 1949, the New York Journal-American stated, "Today it is estimated even by Jacob's grandson, John Schiff, a prominent member of New York Society, that the old man sank about $20,000,000 for the final triumph of Bolshevism in Russia. Other New York banking firms also contributed."
Referring to a June 15, 1933, Congressional Record, Allen wrote "Congressman Louis McFadden, chairman of the House Banking Committee, maintained in a speech to his fellow Congressman: "The Soviet government has been given United States Treasure funds by the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks acting through the Chase Bank and the Guaranty Trust Company and other banks in New York City. ... Open up the books of Amtorg, the trading organization of the Soviet government in New York, and of Gostorg, the general office of the Soviet Trade Organization, and of the State Bank of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and you will be staggered to see how much American money has been taken from the United States' Treasury for the benefit of Russia."
"Now our textbooks tell us that the Nazis and Soviets were bitter enemies and their systems are opposites," observed Professor Sutton. But in the "1920s, W. Averell Harriman was a prime supporter of the Soviets with finance and diplomatic assistance ... [and] participated in RUSKOMBANK," which was "the first Soviet commercial bank. Furthermore, Max May, the Vice President of Guaranty Trust, which was dominated by Harriman and Morgan, became the first Vice-President of Ruskombank." However, declared Professor Sutton, "Averell Harriman, his brother Roland Harriman, and ... E.S. James and Knight Woolley, through the Union Bank ... were prime financial backers of Hitler." He asked, "How could a rational man support Soviets and Nazis at the same time?"
A curious dilemma arises when faced with the documented fact that Wall Street funded both Communists and Nazis. First, it would seem these two forms of government are at opposite ends of the political spectrum. And that capitalists would see them as a threat to their growth. Allen provides a possible answer, writing, "But obviously these men have no fear of international Communism. It is only logical to assume that if they financed it, and are willing--even eager--to cooperate with it, it must be because they control it. Can there be another explanation that makes sense?" He adds, "Remember that for over 100 years it has been a standard operating procedure of the Rockefellers and their allies to control both sides of every conflict."
Before Winston Churchill became Prime Minister of Great Britain, he acknowledged a conscious effort of wealthy people to install a communist dictatorship in Russia. He wrote in the February 18th, 1920 issue of the London Illustrated Sunday Herald, that "From the days of Spartacus [Adam] Weishaupt ... to those of Karl Marx, to those of Trotsky, Bella Kuhn, Rose Luxembourg, and Emma Goldman, this world-wide conspiracy has been steadily growing." He affirmed, "It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th century; and now at last, this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically undisputed masters of that enormous empire."
After the Bolshevik Revolution, Wall Street ensured the communists would retain control of Russia. Professor Sutton described this effort when he wrote, "On may 1st, 1918, when the Bolsheviks controlled only a small fraction of Russia (and were to come near to losing even that fraction in the summer of 1918), the American League to Aid and Cooperate with Russia was organized in Washington, D.C to support the Bolsheviks. This was not a 'Hands off Russia' type of committee formed by the Communist Party U.S.A or its allies. It was a committee created by Wall Street with George P. Whalen of Vacuum Oil Company as Treasurer and Coffin and Oudin of General Electric, along with Thompson of the Federal Reserve System, Willard of the Baltimore and Ohio Railroad, and assorted socialists."
"The Bolsheviks were not a visible political force at the time the Czar abdicated," Allen wrote. "And they came to power not because of the downtrodden masses of Russia called them back, but because very powerful men in Europe and the United States sent them in. "They [Lenin and Trotsky] joined up, and, by November, though bribery, cunning, brutality and deception, they were able (not to bring the masses rallying to their cause, but) to hire enough thugs and make enough deals to impose out of the gun barrel what Lenin called 'all power to the Soviets.'"
"Having created their colony in Russia," said Allen, "the Rockefellers and their allies have struggled mightily ever since to keep it alive. Beginning in 1918 this clique has been engaged in transferring money and, probably more important, technical information to the Soviet Union." Perloff agreed, writing, "Probably no name symbolized capitalism more than Rockefeller. Yet that family has for decades supplied trade and credit to Communist nations. After the Bolsheviks took power, the Rockefellers' Standard Oil of New Jersey bought up Russian oil fields, while Standard Oil of New York built the soviets a refiner and made an arrangement to market their oil in Europe. During the 1920's the Rockefellers' Chase Bank helped found the American-Russian Chamber of Commerce, and was involved in financing Soviet raw material exports and selling Soviet bonds in the U.S."
According to Senator Barry Goldwater, Chase Manhattan built a truck factory in Russia which could also be used to produce armored vehicles such as tanks and even rocket launchers. Perloff echoed, "American technology helped the Soviets construct the $5 billion Kama River truck factory ... [which was] successfully converted by the Kremlin to military purposes."
Wall Street continued to aid the Russian communists as they supplied the Vietnamese communists that Americans were fighting in Vietnam, says Allen. In the late 60s Rockefeller and other industrialists built synthetic rubber plants and an aluminum factory totaling about 250 million dollars. Professor Sutton observed, "these American capitalists were willing to finance and subsidize the Soviet Union while the Vietnam War was underway, knowing that the Soviets were supplying the other side."
An article appeared in the New York Times on January 16, 1967, which carried the headline, Eaton Joins Rockefellers to Spur Trade with Reds. Perloff summed up the story, "The ensuing story noted that the Rockefellers were teaming up with tycoon Cyrus Eaton, Jr., who was financing for the Soviet block the construction of a $50 million aluminum plant and rubber plants valued at over $200 million." He added, "The Chase, which maintains a branch office at 1 Karl Marx Square in Moscow, has gained notoriety for financing projects behind the Iron Curtain."
Referring to Professor Sutton's book, Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution, he wrote, "No one has even attempted to refute Sutton's almost excessively scholarly works. They can't. But the misinformation machines that compose our mediacracy can ignore Sutton. And they do." The book, added Perloff, "is based on assiduous research, including a deeper probe into State Department files."
Professor Sutton warned, "The synthesis sought by the Establishment is called the New World Order. Without controlled conflict this New World Order will not come about. ... And this is being done with the calculated, managed, use of conflict. ... This explains why the International bankers backed the Nazis, the Soviet Union, [and] North Korea ... against the United States. The 'conflict' ... [builds] profits while pushing the world ever closer to One World Government. The process continues today."
Summary
The evidence that these researchers present, which includes mainstream news and State Department records, suggests that Communist Russia was not only heavily funded by Wall Street, but was the actual creation of Wall Street. The Communist Revolution was instigated by Wall Street. Wall Street continued to build Russia even as they supplied aid to a country that America was at war with. Because they created communist Russia, they must have known about the millions of people being murdered.
[Footnotes]
* Photo taken from the Shadows of Power, by James Perloff.
All the deluded right wingers on this forum love to blame Democrats for the spread of left wing ideology but it is their fellow Republicans who are the ones responsible for that and for the Cold War. Professor Anthony Sutton who is referenced above and who wrote on this more than anyone else was a CONSERVATIVE.
You're preaching to the choir. The only way something would be done in Africa is if there was an uprising with riots and pogroms.
Bull****.
The USA has only threatened to nuke Iran in your fevered imagination.
Not even close. Get real.