In a choice between spending a couple of years in a Swedish prison.. with a reputation for 'soft time'.. or spending the rest of my life in Ecuador.. i don't know if it's even a toss up. I'd go and face the music.
Ecuador grants asylum to WikiLeaks founder Assange
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There are several politicians who have enetered and left the UK while having pending charges. Apparently exceptions can be made.
Well if the brits gestapo attack the vehicle(s) that will carry him to Ecuador,we'll see how evil they are
"and i mean the system,not the citizens"
That's a simple solution, and would set an interesting precedent when other countries did that to the UK, or to Canada, simply rounded up our embassy staff and arrested them for whatever reason.
Might just as well do away with the whole concept of embassies.
Indeed. So far as I can tell only horrible war torn places have done something like that.
I did, you just quoted it.
What on earth makes you think that one idiot is worth violating embassy rules? Would you be happy when the tables get turned, and it's our people who get nabbed?
I thought you studied history, did you think about what you studied? Why would you be so willing to toss out embassy rules so easily?
So you've already, charged, tried and convicted him and now are ready for the execution! :lol::lol:
Assange broke his bail conditions.
BBC News - Wikileaks' Julian Assange seeks asylum in Ecuador embassy
He fears that if he is sent to Sweden it may lead to him being sent to the US to face charges over Wikileaks for which he could face the death penalty.
Mr Assange denies any wrongdoing.
Swedish authorities have said the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) would intervene if Mr Assange was to face the prospect of "inhuman or degrading treatment or an unfair trial" in the US.
The UK Foreign Office - which said that as Mr Assange was now in the embassy he was "on diplomatic territory and beyond the reach of the police" - added that it would work with Ecuador to resolve the situation.
In 2010, Mr Assange - whose Wikileaks website has published a mass of leaked diplomatic cables that embarrassed several governments and international businesses - was briefly offered Ecuadorean residency.
But the offer from the country's deputy foreign minister - who said he was acting because Ecuador wanted to allow Mr Assange to freely present the information he had - was dismissed by President Rafael Correa who said he had not approved it.
Swedish prosecutors want to question Mr Assange over allegations of rape and sexual assault while he was in Stockholm to give a lecture.
The claims were made by two female former Wikileaks volunteers in mid-2010. No charges have been filed.
The Australian anti-secrecy campaigner, who claims the sex was consensual, could still take his case against extradition to the ECHR and has until 28 June to make the move, or extradition proceedings will begin.
Mr Assange is on £200,000 bail which was provided by several high-profile supporters including socialite Jemima Khan and Ken Loach, who each offered £20,000 as surety.
The EU does not have the death penalty- Those extradited to the US from the EU are guaranteed by agreement with the US that if convicted they cannot receive the death penalty. Same when Canada extradites to the US.
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With that thinking they could do the same in Ecuador now could they not. Much easier to do in Ecuador than if and I say if he ended up in the US and convicted of a crime.
If it got to that point. Why would they attack? Simply pull them over. He's got to get out of the car at some point to get on a plane.
Just because you are granted asylum doesn't mean you get a free ride to the airport and the host country can't touch you.
Perhaps Ecuador can build him a permanent residence at their embassy.
Or Iran
Where did the death penalty and Manning come into this?
He is under indictment from Sweden on rape charges. What about the alleged victims in this case or does Assange get a free pass because he released confidential US material?
And Manning, he's not going to get the death penalty. He'll most likely go to jail forever but he won't get the needle.
Coincidence or what
Finished reading this then headed back to the forum
Julian Assange will not be allowed safe passage out of Britain | World | News | National Post
Ok I am back. Interesting article. I am sure that is the next step... How can they sneak him out of the country. The far fetched plan is to grant him full citizenship and make him an Ambassador... but it would be funny if they tried.
Just looking at the Ecuadorian embassy I would think it would be tricky to sneak him out of the building let along the country. Diplomatic immunity doesn't mean you can be allowed to commit a crime or continue to commit a crime. You can't just walk into a store and rob it and hold up your immunity card and walk by the police.
The UK would have to accept that status- which they would not. They have the right to refuse accreditation.
Easier to get him on an Ecuadorian freighter passing in international waters. That is what??? 12-14 miles from the coast.
I'm of two minds about that, I maintain if you break the law while in another country you should be willing to accept whatever punishment they mete out without whining about it. That tends to make people do more serious thinking before they commit crimes while abroad. I don't think it's up to us to tell other countries what penalties to impose. We sure as hell wouldn't want them dictating to us.
Well wasn't that the purpose of your simple solution? Cease foreign relations with another sovereign nation so that you can arrest someone inside?
What other purpose is there to your solution?
Right. They wouldn't accept that status.
I doubt if they can get him out of the building. Now it is a case of pride. Ecuador wants to get him out and the UK wants him in their custody. It may not be so easy to sneak away or else he would have done so before he got into the Ecuadorian Embassy. JMO