Donald Trump Announces 2016 White House Bid
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Nope. The Supreme Court has held that the list of qualifications for Federal office in the Constitution is exclusive. No qualifications can be added without Constitutional amendment.
"Decency" ain't on the list.
So that might make the list suspect.
And thick skull too, you think?
Trump for President? The tragedy/comedy continues. Personally, I think Galbraith was correct and precise when he said, "this is a time when corporations have taken over the basic process of governing." And governments are simply sometimes useful and sometimes stumbling block to that machine. Galbraith also said, "Regulatory bodies, like the people who comprise them…mellow, and in old age…they become, with some exceptions, either an arm of the industry they are regulating or senile." and I believe that governments' (at lpartial mandate is to regulate on behalf of the public that employs them.
hehe hawhaw,,,hoohoo,,,real kneeslapper there bout pissed meself cackling oyn that one.
Yank trash spreak. What's new.
GOP Candidates Jump on Bandwagon to Criticize Trump - Breitbart
Donald Trump continues to take fire from his competitors for the Republican nomination for president after controversial comments he made about Fox News Channel’s Megyn Kelly. Carly Fiorina and former Gov. George Pataki (R-NY) chimed in late Friday evening, and several other candidates added their voices on Saturday.
Trump was unhappy with some of the questions Kelly asked him when she moderated Thursday evening’s GOP Debate and posted a series of aggressive tweets through the wee hours Friday morning. Then, as Breitbart News reported, in a Friday evening appearance on CNN Tonight, Trump said that Kelly had “blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever.” Many interpreted this comment as inappropriate or even sexist.
Fiorina, the only female among the Republican presidential candidates, was the first to criticize Trump’s comments, tweeting that there was “no excuse” for what Trump said and that she stood with Kelly. Pataki tweeted that the “outrage” at his fellow New Yorker was “long overdue” and called it a “sad but predictable meltdown from Trump.”
Late Friday, RedState Editor-in-Chief Erick Erickson disinvited Trump from the RedState Gathering, currently taking place in Atlanta, Georgia. Erickson praised Trump for being a “blunt talker” who “connects with so much of the anger of the Republican base” but said that his “inappropriate” comment had crossed “real lines of decency.”
“It is unfortunate to have to disinvite him,” said Erickson. “But I just don’t want someone on stage who gets a hostile question from a lady and his first inclination is to imply it was hormonal. It just was wrong.”
Trump fired back with a statement of his own, calling Erickson a “total loser,” and tweeting, “Political correctness is killing our country.” He also claimed that he meant blood coming out of Kelly’s nose.
Re Megyn Kelly quote: "you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever" (NOSE). Just got on w/thought
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 8, 2015
Many were not buying Trump’s belated excuse, including Fox News’ Greg Gutfeld, as well as more of the Republican presidential candidates. Beginning on Saturday morning, several others joined the “Shame on Trump” bandwagon, similar to how they had denounced his previous controversial attacks on Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)43%
and his time as a POW during the Vietnam War.
Former Gov. Rick Perry (R-TX), who has been one of the loudest critics of Trump, previously calling him a “cancer on conservatism” and saying he should withdraw from the race, released a statement that Trump’s attack on Kelly “proves once again that he does not have the temperament to be President.”
Donald Trump has proven once again that he doesn’t have the temperament to hold our nation’s highest office. Attacking veterans, Hispanics and women demonstrates a serious lack of character and basic decency, and his comments distract from the serious issues facing our country.
Gov. Scott Walker (R-WI) weighed in as well with a pair of tweets stating he agreed with Fiorina that “there’s no excuse for Trump’s comments,” and while Kelly was a “tough interview,” being president was “tougher.” Republican candidates and the media “need to get back to how we’re going to turn the US around.”
I agree with @CarlyFiorina, there's no excuse for Trump's comments. Stand with @MegynKelly. -SW
— Scott Walker (@ScottWalker) August 8, 2015
.@MegynKelly is a tough interview. Being POTUS is tougher. @GOP candidates & media need to get back to how we're going to turn US around.-SW
— Scott Walker (@ScottWalker) August 8, 2015
Former Gov. Jeb Bush, speaking at the RedState Gathering Saturday afternoon, mentioned that several candidates had complained about “tough questions” at the debate, clearly referring to Trump, although he did not mention him by name. “You think that’s tough?” Bush asked. “How about dealing with [Russian President Vladimir] Putin?”
Later during a Q&A with Erickson, Bush was more pointed in his criticism. Responding to a quip by Erickson that he was in hot water with Trump, Bush replied, “You’re on the side of women. Come on, give me a break.”
“Do we want to win? Do we want to insult fifty-three percent of voters?” Bush continued, commending Erickson for making the “right” decision to disinvite Trump. “What Donald Trump said is wrong. That is not how we win elections. Worse yet, that is not how you bring people together to solve problems. That is not the way to do it. So your decision, I think, was the right one. Mr. Trump ought to apologize.”
Gov. John Kasich (R-OH) did not mention Trump or Kelly by name but tweeted a statement that he was “grateful for the strong women in my family, in my office, in my cabinet and on my campaign.” Added Kasich: “You don’t tear people down just because they disagree with you or stand up to you or question you.”
Gov. Kasich on recent statements about @megynkelly of FOX News. pic.twitter.com/DtmXsgzsgn
— John Kasich (@JohnKasich) August 8, 2015
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC)47%
posted a string of Tweets attacking Trump’s “unrelenting and offensive comments” about Kelly, which he said “are not worthy of the office he is seeking nor consistent w/the leadership we should expect from [the President of the United States].” He also applauded Erickson for disinviting Trump and warned the Republican Party that it was “better to risk losing without [Trump] than trying to win with him.”
.@RealDonaldTrump unrelenting & offensive comments about @MegynKelly puts the @GOP at a crossroads w/Mr. Trump
— Lindsey Graham (@LindseyGrahamSC) August 8, 2015
I applaud Erick Erickson & @RedState for doing the right thing when they disinvited @RealDonaldTrump
— Lindsey Graham (@LindseyGrahamSC) August 8, 2015
.@GOP – it is better to risk losing w/out @RealDonaldTrump than trying to win w/him
— Lindsey Graham (@LindseyGrahamSC) August 8, 2015
.@RealDonaldTrump comments are not worthy of the office he is seeking nor consistent w/the leadership we should expect from POTUS
— Lindsey Graham (@LindseyGrahamSC) August 8, 2015
National Review reported that Gov. Bobby Jindal (R-LA) had emailed them a statement calling Trump a “coward.”
“Coarse language and degrading comments are for cowards,” said Jindal. “Where I come from we don’t treat people like that.”
Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)96%
offered perhaps the most measured of comments from the candidates so far. During a press gaggle at the RedState Gathering, Cruz praised Kelly as “a terrific journalist” who “did a very good job moderating the debate” but added that he was “not going to engage in the back and forth on personalities” and then changed the subject to topics that were “more important than the momentary bickering between different political candidates.”
So far, no polls have been released that include opinions after Thursday’s GOP Debate or Trump’s comments about Kelly. Some are predicting that these past few days will be the straw that finally breaks Trump’s lead in the polls, but previous controversies that were predicted to derail him have failed to do so.
Republican attacks on one another have started already. It's a good bet that the best is yet to come ...
Donald Trump continues to take fire from his competitors for the Republican nomination for president after controversial comments he made about Fox News Channel’s Megyn Kelly. Carly Fiorina and former Gov. George Pataki (R-NY) chimed in late Friday evening, and several other candidates added their voices on Saturday.
Trump was unhappy with some of the questions Kelly asked him when she moderated Thursday evening’s GOP Debate and posted a series of aggressive tweets through the wee hours Friday morning. Then, as Breitbart News reported, in a Friday evening appearance on CNN Tonight, Trump said that Kelly had “blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever.” Many interpreted this comment as inappropriate or even sexist.
Fiorina, the only female among the Republican presidential candidates, was the first to criticize Trump’s comments, tweeting that there was “no excuse” for what Trump said and that she stood with Kelly. Pataki tweeted that the “outrage” at his fellow New Yorker was “long overdue” and called it a “sad but predictable meltdown from Trump.”
Late Friday, RedState Editor-in-Chief Erick Erickson disinvited Trump from the RedState Gathering, currently taking place in Atlanta, Georgia. Erickson praised Trump for being a “blunt talker” who “connects with so much of the anger of the Republican base” but said that his “inappropriate” comment had crossed “real lines of decency.”
“It is unfortunate to have to disinvite him,” said Erickson. “But I just don’t want someone on stage who gets a hostile question from a lady and his first inclination is to imply it was hormonal. It just was wrong.”
Trump fired back with a statement of his own, calling Erickson a “total loser,” and tweeting, “Political correctness is killing our country.” He also claimed that he meant blood coming out of Kelly’s nose.
Re Megyn Kelly quote: "you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever" (NOSE). Just got on w/thought
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 8, 2015
Many were not buying Trump’s belated excuse, including Fox News’ Greg Gutfeld, as well as more of the Republican presidential candidates. Beginning on Saturday morning, several others joined the “Shame on Trump” bandwagon, similar to how they had denounced his previous controversial attacks on Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)43%
and his time as a POW during the Vietnam War.
Former Gov. Rick Perry (R-TX), who has been one of the loudest critics of Trump, previously calling him a “cancer on conservatism” and saying he should withdraw from the race, released a statement that Trump’s attack on Kelly “proves once again that he does not have the temperament to be President.”
Donald Trump has proven once again that he doesn’t have the temperament to hold our nation’s highest office. Attacking veterans, Hispanics and women demonstrates a serious lack of character and basic decency, and his comments distract from the serious issues facing our country.
Gov. Scott Walker (R-WI) weighed in as well with a pair of tweets stating he agreed with Fiorina that “there’s no excuse for Trump’s comments,” and while Kelly was a “tough interview,” being president was “tougher.” Republican candidates and the media “need to get back to how we’re going to turn the US around.”
I agree with @CarlyFiorina, there's no excuse for Trump's comments. Stand with @MegynKelly. -SW
— Scott Walker (@ScottWalker) August 8, 2015
.@MegynKelly is a tough interview. Being POTUS is tougher. @GOP candidates & media need to get back to how we're going to turn US around.-SW
— Scott Walker (@ScottWalker) August 8, 2015
Former Gov. Jeb Bush, speaking at the RedState Gathering Saturday afternoon, mentioned that several candidates had complained about “tough questions” at the debate, clearly referring to Trump, although he did not mention him by name. “You think that’s tough?” Bush asked. “How about dealing with [Russian President Vladimir] Putin?”
Later during a Q&A with Erickson, Bush was more pointed in his criticism. Responding to a quip by Erickson that he was in hot water with Trump, Bush replied, “You’re on the side of women. Come on, give me a break.”
“Do we want to win? Do we want to insult fifty-three percent of voters?” Bush continued, commending Erickson for making the “right” decision to disinvite Trump. “What Donald Trump said is wrong. That is not how we win elections. Worse yet, that is not how you bring people together to solve problems. That is not the way to do it. So your decision, I think, was the right one. Mr. Trump ought to apologize.”
Gov. John Kasich (R-OH) did not mention Trump or Kelly by name but tweeted a statement that he was “grateful for the strong women in my family, in my office, in my cabinet and on my campaign.” Added Kasich: “You don’t tear people down just because they disagree with you or stand up to you or question you.”
Gov. Kasich on recent statements about @megynkelly of FOX News. pic.twitter.com/DtmXsgzsgn
— John Kasich (@JohnKasich) August 8, 2015
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC)47%
posted a string of Tweets attacking Trump’s “unrelenting and offensive comments” about Kelly, which he said “are not worthy of the office he is seeking nor consistent w/the leadership we should expect from [the President of the United States].” He also applauded Erickson for disinviting Trump and warned the Republican Party that it was “better to risk losing without [Trump] than trying to win with him.”
.@RealDonaldTrump unrelenting & offensive comments about @MegynKelly puts the @GOP at a crossroads w/Mr. Trump
— Lindsey Graham (@LindseyGrahamSC) August 8, 2015
I applaud Erick Erickson & @RedState for doing the right thing when they disinvited @RealDonaldTrump
— Lindsey Graham (@LindseyGrahamSC) August 8, 2015
.@GOP – it is better to risk losing w/out @RealDonaldTrump than trying to win w/him
— Lindsey Graham (@LindseyGrahamSC) August 8, 2015
.@RealDonaldTrump comments are not worthy of the office he is seeking nor consistent w/the leadership we should expect from POTUS
— Lindsey Graham (@LindseyGrahamSC) August 8, 2015
National Review reported that Gov. Bobby Jindal (R-LA) had emailed them a statement calling Trump a “coward.”
“Coarse language and degrading comments are for cowards,” said Jindal. “Where I come from we don’t treat people like that.”
Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)96%
offered perhaps the most measured of comments from the candidates so far. During a press gaggle at the RedState Gathering, Cruz praised Kelly as “a terrific journalist” who “did a very good job moderating the debate” but added that he was “not going to engage in the back and forth on personalities” and then changed the subject to topics that were “more important than the momentary bickering between different political candidates.”
So far, no polls have been released that include opinions after Thursday’s GOP Debate or Trump’s comments about Kelly. Some are predicting that these past few days will be the straw that finally breaks Trump’s lead in the polls, but previous controversies that were predicted to derail him have failed to do so.
Republican attacks on one another have started already. It's a good bet that the best is yet to come ...
Donald Trump's narcissism - CNN.com
(CNN)Donald Trump's behavior on stage Thursday night and in the days that have followed strike many as unfathomable: How can anyone act so arrogantly and meanly in public life? But in fact, there is a large body of academic and other work that helps to explain. Just Google the literature on "narcissistic leadership" and you will instantly recognize Trump -- both his bright and dark sides.
Narcissists have been called out since ancient times, of course. A Greek myth told the story of a proud young man who disdained those who loved him and instead fell in love with his own reflection in a pool. Unable to leave his reflection, he drowned. His name: Narcissus.
A century ago, Sigmund Freud famously identified three basic personality types: erotics (those who love and need to be loved), obsessives (more inner-directed), and narcissists (those fixated with themselves and who crave adoration, not love).
More recently, Michael Maccoby, a psychoanalyst and anthropologist who has counseled governments and corporations for decades, has written the most accessible and popular work on narcissistic leaders. In my view, his article in the Harvard Business Review in 2004 remains the best short essay on the subject in the past several years.
Maccoby recognizes that Freud's three types overlap in many of us and that all of us have a degree of narcissism. Self-esteem helps us survive and meet our basic needs in life. Maccoby goes on to argue that in turbulent, uncertain times, societies actually need narcissistic leaders. They tend to be strong people like Trump with large vision, lots of charisma, oratorical magnetism and a powerful drive to get results. They are less concerned with dangers in the future than with transforming it.
He calls these "productive narcissists" and includes among their ranks Mahatma Gandhi, Winston Churchill and Franklin Roosevelt, as well as recent corporate leaders like Jack Welch, Bill Gates and Steve Jobs. (He doesn't name but presumably would include Eleanor Roosevelt, Indira Gandhi and Golda Meir.)
But there are traps for "productive narcissists" -- and here's where the Trump saga gets interesting. As narcissistic leaders experience one success after another, they face a danger of believing more and more in their own infallibility and less in the judgment of others.
Freud argues, and Maccoby agrees, that narcissistic leaders can become increasingly isolated and distrustful of others. They develop thin skin and lash out when questioned. Apple co-founder Steve Jobs, for all his brilliance, publicly humiliated his subordinates. In more extreme cases, they become relentless and ruthless; their response to critics turns into apparent vengeance. Sound familiar?
Experience shows, says Maccoby, that productive narcissists can best avoid these traps by adopting a series of measures. One is to have a sidekick who can keep them anchored. Another is to seek therapeutic help. Above all, one has to learn self-understanding and find methods of self-restraint.
Sadly, those who know Trump well have witnessed how productive a narcissistic leader he can be. In his divorce from Trump this past weekend, political strategist Roger Stone spoke glowingly of him in a way that made the point. That was the Donald Trump a class of mine at the Harvard Kennedy School also experienced when we visited him in New York City: He was charismatic, had a large vision and won over followers. I was grateful to him.
But the Donald Trump we've seen on the political stage has fallen deeply into the narcissist's trap -- he has become someone who indeed seems self-isolated, distrustful and deeply angry. He may hold followers for now, but he apparently can't see how many others are appalled. Stone, who was his chief strategist, tried to get him back on track. Rejecting that advice and letting Stone get away only underscores how differently he sees reality from most others.
A candidate who stays up well past 3 a.m. writing vengeful tweets about Megyn Kelly is not the man the country will want answering the red phone at that hour.
Trump, I would like to believe, is better than that. He would be wise to step back, catch his breath, and seek help from others -- starting with Michael Maccoby.
(CNN)Donald Trump's behavior on stage Thursday night and in the days that have followed strike many as unfathomable: How can anyone act so arrogantly and meanly in public life? But in fact, there is a large body of academic and other work that helps to explain. Just Google the literature on "narcissistic leadership" and you will instantly recognize Trump -- both his bright and dark sides.
Narcissists have been called out since ancient times, of course. A Greek myth told the story of a proud young man who disdained those who loved him and instead fell in love with his own reflection in a pool. Unable to leave his reflection, he drowned. His name: Narcissus.
A century ago, Sigmund Freud famously identified three basic personality types: erotics (those who love and need to be loved), obsessives (more inner-directed), and narcissists (those fixated with themselves and who crave adoration, not love).
More recently, Michael Maccoby, a psychoanalyst and anthropologist who has counseled governments and corporations for decades, has written the most accessible and popular work on narcissistic leaders. In my view, his article in the Harvard Business Review in 2004 remains the best short essay on the subject in the past several years.
Maccoby recognizes that Freud's three types overlap in many of us and that all of us have a degree of narcissism. Self-esteem helps us survive and meet our basic needs in life. Maccoby goes on to argue that in turbulent, uncertain times, societies actually need narcissistic leaders. They tend to be strong people like Trump with large vision, lots of charisma, oratorical magnetism and a powerful drive to get results. They are less concerned with dangers in the future than with transforming it.
He calls these "productive narcissists" and includes among their ranks Mahatma Gandhi, Winston Churchill and Franklin Roosevelt, as well as recent corporate leaders like Jack Welch, Bill Gates and Steve Jobs. (He doesn't name but presumably would include Eleanor Roosevelt, Indira Gandhi and Golda Meir.)
But there are traps for "productive narcissists" -- and here's where the Trump saga gets interesting. As narcissistic leaders experience one success after another, they face a danger of believing more and more in their own infallibility and less in the judgment of others.
Freud argues, and Maccoby agrees, that narcissistic leaders can become increasingly isolated and distrustful of others. They develop thin skin and lash out when questioned. Apple co-founder Steve Jobs, for all his brilliance, publicly humiliated his subordinates. In more extreme cases, they become relentless and ruthless; their response to critics turns into apparent vengeance. Sound familiar?
Experience shows, says Maccoby, that productive narcissists can best avoid these traps by adopting a series of measures. One is to have a sidekick who can keep them anchored. Another is to seek therapeutic help. Above all, one has to learn self-understanding and find methods of self-restraint.
Sadly, those who know Trump well have witnessed how productive a narcissistic leader he can be. In his divorce from Trump this past weekend, political strategist Roger Stone spoke glowingly of him in a way that made the point. That was the Donald Trump a class of mine at the Harvard Kennedy School also experienced when we visited him in New York City: He was charismatic, had a large vision and won over followers. I was grateful to him.
But the Donald Trump we've seen on the political stage has fallen deeply into the narcissist's trap -- he has become someone who indeed seems self-isolated, distrustful and deeply angry. He may hold followers for now, but he apparently can't see how many others are appalled. Stone, who was his chief strategist, tried to get him back on track. Rejecting that advice and letting Stone get away only underscores how differently he sees reality from most others.
A candidate who stays up well past 3 a.m. writing vengeful tweets about Megyn Kelly is not the man the country will want answering the red phone at that hour.
Trump, I would like to believe, is better than that. He would be wise to step back, catch his breath, and seek help from others -- starting with Michael Maccoby.
This is what I called three weeks ago
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/u...rump-announces-2016-white-12.html#post2138419
It took just a few minutes for the first GOP 2016 debate to get testy. Fox News' Bret Baier started off the night by asking the 10 Republicans on the main-stage event whether they would pledge to support whoever wins the Republican nomination and guarantee that they wouldn't run an independent bid next fall.
Everyone knew the answer in advance. When Wallace asked the candidates to raise their hand if they wouldn't take that pledge, current frontrunner Donald Trump—who has previously said he would consider a third-party presidential bid if he lost the GOP nomination—predictably raised his hand. "I cannot say I have to respect the person if it's not me," Trump said.
"I want to run as the Republican nominee," he continued, saying he wouldn't run as an independent—just so long as he's the one who wins the nomination, an outcome that he sees as a foregone conclusion.
Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) quickly pounced. "He buys and sells politicians of all stripes," Paul jumped in, noting Trump's past donations to Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation.
The moderators were teed up to put Trump in the hot seat from the start. Soon after that first question, Fox's Megyn Kelly questioned Trump on whether he could run against Hillary Clinton in the general election given his litany of disparaging comments against women. "It was only Rosie O'Donnell," Trump tried to interrupt Kelly, earning loud applause from the crowd in Cleveland. And even then, it was all just "fun" and "kidding," in Trump's assessment. "I don't have time for total political correctness," Trump said. "To be honest with you, this country doesn’t either."
Donald Trump Won't Say If He'll Support the Republican Nominee—Unless It's Him | Mother Jones
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/u...rump-announces-2016-white-12.html#post2138419
It took just a few minutes for the first GOP 2016 debate to get testy. Fox News' Bret Baier started off the night by asking the 10 Republicans on the main-stage event whether they would pledge to support whoever wins the Republican nomination and guarantee that they wouldn't run an independent bid next fall.
Everyone knew the answer in advance. When Wallace asked the candidates to raise their hand if they wouldn't take that pledge, current frontrunner Donald Trump—who has previously said he would consider a third-party presidential bid if he lost the GOP nomination—predictably raised his hand. "I cannot say I have to respect the person if it's not me," Trump said.
"I want to run as the Republican nominee," he continued, saying he wouldn't run as an independent—just so long as he's the one who wins the nomination, an outcome that he sees as a foregone conclusion.
Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) quickly pounced. "He buys and sells politicians of all stripes," Paul jumped in, noting Trump's past donations to Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation.
The moderators were teed up to put Trump in the hot seat from the start. Soon after that first question, Fox's Megyn Kelly questioned Trump on whether he could run against Hillary Clinton in the general election given his litany of disparaging comments against women. "It was only Rosie O'Donnell," Trump tried to interrupt Kelly, earning loud applause from the crowd in Cleveland. And even then, it was all just "fun" and "kidding," in Trump's assessment. "I don't have time for total political correctness," Trump said. "To be honest with you, this country doesn’t either."
Donald Trump Won't Say If He'll Support the Republican Nominee—Unless It's Him | Mother Jones
I wonder if Bill Clinton asked the Donald to run to try to split the vote giving Hillary a better chance at a win?Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 6h6 hours ago Today I officially declared my candidacy for President of the United States. Watch the video of my full speech- https://youtu.be/q_q61B-DyPk
Sheila_T @_FreeMarketeer
.@realDonaldTrump Wink, wink; nudge, nudge... Are you #ReadyForHillary?
If Trump runs as an Indy that is exactly what will happen.
If Sanders runs as an Indy the same thing only in reverse. However Sanders has clearly said that he would not do that. Trump will hang that over the GOPs head for the duration I'd say.
You guys should just dispense with your primaries and head straight to a general election with all 500 names on the ballot.
You guys should just dispense with your primaries and head straight to a general election with all 500 names on the ballot.
It would cut down on a lot of unnecessary expense and hoopla!