Do The Conservatives Deserve Another Chance?
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The price of the jets...over how many decades???? Any less than the best in a weapons system that is expected to last at least 30 years is just a complete waste of cash.
BTW, do you not think we need effective military capability, and if not, where did you buy your crystal ball????
i agree lowering the corporate tax rate seems silly, although economists argue that the revenue loss is more than compensated for by new business.......that admittedly sounds like voodoo to me. But I'm not an economist.
I do know that no matter what the corporate tax rate, it is ultimately paid by the consumer. That is only good sense.
Every single thing that Harper has done has either been demanded by, or approved by the Liberals and/or NDP. It was a minority gov't, remember?
Soooooo....I guess we all wear that, don't we?????
Hell I'm the least Conservative person in Canada and even I want these jets, not to mention 3 aircraft carriers to go along with them and a sattelite that covers the far Arctic.
Is math really that vexing to you? First magic wands, and now crystal balls?
Nope, never said that. Just explaining one method in which math can be used. It has nothing to do with magic wands. If you decrease spending on one policy item, and increase revenue, then you have money which can be used for other purposes.
We absolutely should have effective capability. That's not something I'd argue against. It's also a red herring to whether or not Ignatieff has costed out his proposals.
Canada's economy can easily afford 90 jets and as many socialist gifts as you can imagine...IF you really really want them.
But then again if someone wipes you off the fricken map, none of it will matter anyway, the jets we didn't buy or the other stuff we didn't get a chance to buy. :lol:
It's only money- if you run short I'm sure the boys at the mint won't mind doing a little O.T. :lol:
First the current stock of F-18's are more than adequate for another 10-15 years, and if you want the best the F-22 is a superior platform and the Typhoon is a great plane at a much more economical price.
We already have a reasonably effective military. This trying to keep up with big-brother down south is ridiculous. Canada has always been proud of our reputation as non-aggressive, almost neutral, and we should keep it that way.
You are right about the corporate tax rates...it is voodoo! The most effective way to stimulate and grow any economy is to put the money in the hands of the consumer. Increased consumer spending increases demand. Increasing the supply when there is no consumer spending is a recipie for failure.
That is only because the corporate culture demands that there is never enough profit. No-one can settle for a 20% return when they could achieve 30%. It is really a sad commentary on society as a whole that this has become the standard.
We could indeed afford a whole lot of things if we got rid of the debt-based monetary system in favor of a true FIAT currency. Instead of issuing interest bearing bonds as the base for printing money we can just print the money. This has already been done quite successfuly in Gurnsey.
to the jets, an expert in military aircraft commented on as it happens a week ago that the jets they want to buy are mediocre at best. They do no one job good and the costs are dramatically low estimate of actual cost. According to the interview the actual cost for these planes will exceed 155 million per unit. thats a long way from what we are told. He also said there are better, more cost effective aircraft available now. We do not need Raptors or stealth aircraft. We need reliable, versatile ones. These ones are neither. Do the research, then the math and find our government has no real clue of what they are trying to buy as they do not put their voters ahead of themselves. Maybe they should take the time to hire a specialist that is not paid by the manufacturers to do the research for them. But then who are we, people often vote by what they may one day get and not to the benefit of the country as a whole. If our polititions had to really answer for how poorly they manage our country and our tax dollars we as a country would be in far better shape.
few polititions ever keep their promises, they sugar coat what little they have done to get you to think they tried. But a career parliamentarian has but one goal, to be re-elected. Nothing more, nothing less.Our country has been sold out, our natural resources exported raw and we have been left with the remnants of a once rich nation.
Nah they lay out policy and where the money will go if they're elected. Harper is telling people that if they vote for him they will get to write off their sports programs on their income taxes. It's a bribe.
of course it's a bribe, Harper wants re-election.If anyone was ever in a position to ACTUALLY see what our books look like few in Ottawa would escape a jail term.
It's already tax law, has been for two years. Are you sure you're following THIS election?
Is a funny thing that most promises are old things reworked. Income splitting was available years ago.
yes, well we all know that even though they say the eyesight goes first, not true, it's the memory
Beside being full of contempt and hatred, you don't appear to have any savvy either. Most readers would have noticed (and understood) the "smiley" at the end of my comment". I have a rough idea how money works. :roll::roll::roll:
Hatred?
Contempt?
No, not really....lack of respect and disappointment perhaps.
Even you can admit that unions are out dated and out moded but here you are defending them.
We all know that they are rightfully a dying breed.
Heck, you even hate the idea of minimum wage.
I can fully agree with you on that....let the market determine the minimum.