Democratic Annexation of Canada into the United States

Cliffy

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Annexation? You might get a more favourable response if you used the term "union." But no, I don't think being part of a semi-fascist state would be of any benefit to Canada. Thanks to Canada's geographic proximity to the US Canadians are already Americanized enough.
semi-fascist state! You are too kind. The part that seems democratic is just an illusion but their propaganda is much more sophisticated than ours.
 

Cliffy

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Curse the facism that is the Electoral College.




That was sarcasm.
Votes are bought and sold in the electoral college. Have you ever noticed that you don't have a say in who you get to vote for. And you have the most complicated and unworkable voting system I have ever seen. Besides, you have two parties that are indistinguishable except for their rhetoric. That smacks of corporate dictatorship because both parties are financed by the same money.
 

Icarus27k

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I like the Electoral College. It prevents the most populous states from having unreasonably more influence in presidential elections than less populous states. Sometimes complexity is needed, yo.
 

TenPenny

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I like the Electoral College. It prevents the most populous states from having unreasonably more influence in presidential elections than less populous states. Sometimes complexity is needed, yo.

Yes, there's certainly no need to rush into anything crazy like 'one person, one vote' or anything.
 

The Old Medic

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The ONLY way that any portion of Canada would ever join the USA would be if Quebec were to leave and become independent.

If that happened, the Maritime Provinces would be likely to join the US within a very few years.

I suspect that the Prairie provinces would resent the domination of Ontario even more than they do now, and they would quickly follow. BC, Nunavit, the territories and Ontario would hold out as long as possible, but eventually (35-60 years) they would be financially forced to either join, or become essentially irrelevant.
 

The Old Medic

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Oh yes, to those "proud Canadians" that claim that THEY won when the US invaded Canada in the War of 1812. Canada won nothing. Canada did not "torch the white shack". It was the BRITISH Navy, and the BRITISH Army troops that did that. Canada had a militia that was overrun. I know, several of my family members were a part of that Militia. (See the Wright's of Durham County in the Militia list. All but 1 of them were in my family.)

So don't be so proud of what "Canada" accomplished, because there was no such entity as Canada back then, it was just a part of Great Britain. In fact, all Canadians, including me, were simply "British Subjects" until 1 January 1947, when Canada became the first commonwealth country to establish its own separate citizenship. No country is truly a country, until it has its own citizenship.
 

CDNBear

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Oh yes, to those "proud Canadians" that claim that THEY won when the US invaded Canada in the War of 1812. Canada won nothing. Canada did not "torch the white shack". It was the BRITISH Navy, and the BRITISH Army troops that did that.
Mostly Irish conscripts actually, but to avoid an argument I concede they were considered British.
 
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karrie

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Why would we want that many diverse regions under one single government? Seems like it would be a massive cluster**** to govern with anyone being able to even remotely get what they need.
 

AnnaG

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The ONLY way that any portion of Canada would ever join the USA would be if Quebec were to leave and become independent.

If that happened, the Maritime Provinces would be likely to join the US within a very few years.

I suspect that the Prairie provinces would resent the domination of Ontario even more than they do now, and they would quickly follow. BC, Nunavit, the territories and Ontario would hold out as long as possible, but eventually (35-60 years) they would be financially forced to either join, or become essentially irrelevant.
Um, it never occurred to you that BC could well become its own country and choke off ON and the rest from a lot of trade with other countries around the Pacific? lol
 

petros

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Um, it never occurred to you that BC could well become its own country and choke off ON and the rest from a lot of trade with other countries around the Pacific? lol
We already grow our own weed and forest products. What would we lose?
 

AnnaG

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Oh yes, to those "proud Canadians" that claim that THEY won when the US invaded Canada in the War of 1812. Canada won nothing. Canada did not "torch the white shack". It was the BRITISH Navy, and the BRITISH Army troops that did that. Canada had a militia that was overrun. I know, several of my family members were a part of that Militia. (See the Wright's of Durham County in the Militia list. All but 1 of them were in my family.)
1812 was simply the most serious breach in relations. There have been others.

So don't be so proud of what "Canada" accomplished, because there was no such entity as Canada back then, it was just a part of Great Britain. In fact, all Canadians, including me, were simply "British Subjects" until 1 January 1947, when Canada became the first commonwealth country to establish its own separate citizenship. No country is truly a country, until it has its own citizenship.
If Canada isn't a country, then neither is the USA because it depends upon Canada just as much as Canada depends on it. And we do not depend upon Britain for much anymore. Canada ? United States relations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

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Votes are bought and sold in the electoral college. Have you ever noticed that you don't have a say in who you get to vote for. And you have the most complicated and unworkable voting system I have ever seen. Besides, you have two parties that are indistinguishable except for their rhetoric. That smacks of corporate dictatorship because both parties are financed by the same money.

How are they bought and sold? The formula is simple. If the state votes for the Democrat candidate they get all the electoral votes from that state.

You may not like it but that is how we do it and Icarus explained why we do it rather well.
 

AnnaG

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Why would we want that many diverse regions under one single government? Seems like it would be a massive cluster**** to govern with anyone being able to even remotely get what they need.
lol It seems to me that each of our countries is a cluster**** to govern as it is now.