Could Canada survive.....

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No ... it could go back to being an elite six team league where REAL hockey was played. It was too much money that watered it down, made it big business and ruined the game

Good Day l.w.,

You know I haven't watched hockey on a regular basis since 1967. Your statement is true.
I was drafted by the Habs in 1964 and went on to play for the now rejuvenated Junior Canadiens.
The original six was hockey at its finest. Thursday games followed by a lot of home & home series on the following Saturday and Sunday nights.
There were great rivalries like the Habs and the Buds. Detroit & Chicago, Rangers and Bruins.
It was part of our every day lives, our heritage.

...but some-one saw money and it all changed....some-one saw fighting and made it a side show with the law involved....bushwa I say...fighting was part of the game...will always be.

Like everything else that gets buggered up...the `Roos are involved.

We'll never see that again. I have been watching the Habs though this year and it is close to the Habs of old...superior goaltending...speed....goals. But it's not MY HOCKEY and probably NOT YOURS.

It's been revamped for the `Roos...what a sickening demise of a once honourable sport.

Bunch of `ladies` now on skates. Helmets, face masks, body armour and sticks that are not even wood.

Netting In the offensive zones above the glass or what once was tantamount to fencing.

A lot of unjustifiable record breaking is going on in the name of money.

Sad...sick...pathetic.

Bet you the `Roos don't know that basketball is a Canadian invention. Like they know anything.

That era is gone for good. But as good as Gretzky was he was no `Rocket` or `Bobby Hull` or `Gordie Howe`.

The world has moved on for the worse and we are lost in our memories.

Sincerely,
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What's with all the ad crap on the boards and on the ice.

Guys wearing badges of the equipment they wear. Sick.

What happened to the tough guys like Ferguson et al.

The guys were tough, not pansies. Thank you Betman.

Flying wasn't big then, but training to the next city or buses.

This is not evolution but the dissolution of a great sport.

May the American teams (not the ORIGINAL four) rot in hell.

Amen.
 

Praxius

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Additional comment:

What's with all the ad crap on the boards and on the ice.

Guys wearing badges of the equipment they wear. Sick.

What happened to the tough guys like Ferguson et al.

The guys were tough, not pansies. Thank you Betman.

Flying wasn't big then, but training to the next city or buses.

This is not evolution but the dissolution of a great sport.

May the American teams (not the ORIGINAL four) rot in hell.

Amen.

Don't forget there are a load of other hockey leagues.... just in Canada alone, and they get plenty of attention as it currently stands.

If the NHL went tits up, oh well.... there's plenty of more leagues to watch.....

And then there's lecross..... gotta love the swearing and violence in that game.
 

lone wolf

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Additional comment:

What's with all the ad crap on the boards and on the ice.

Guys wearing badges of the equipment they wear. Sick.

What happened to the tough guys like Ferguson et al.

The guys were tough, not pansies. Thank you Betman.

Flying wasn't big then, but training to the next city or buses.

This is not evolution but the dissolution of a great sport.

May the American teams (not the ORIGINAL four) rot in hell.

Amen.

That's why a lot of old-timers who remember real hockey - hockey from the King Clancey and Red Kelly eras refer to it as the Grand Trunk League
 

TenPenny

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I think Betman might regret granting teams to cities like that though as they aren't exactly market leaders. There is ongoing talk of Jim Basile trying to buy Nashville's team and moving it to Hamilton, Ontario which is a pretty big market.

Never going to happen, because Toronto has veto rights on any new team within x miles of Toronto. That's the legacy of the original six.
 

scratch

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Never going to happen, because Toronto has veto rights on any new team within x miles of Toronto. That's the legacy of the original six.

When did Toronto get the rights over Hamilton. Aren't the Hamilton Bulldogs a Montreal Canadien farm team?
 

DurkaDurka

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Never going to happen, because Toronto has veto rights on any new team within x miles of Toronto. That's the legacy of the original six.

Well, Basile seems to think he can pull it off. With all the billions he has I'm sure he could pay off the Leafs. It's not like a Hamilton team would affect the Leafs anyways... the GTA is sorely lacking another team.
 

DurkaDurka

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TenPenny, you are incorrect.

http://www.competitionbureau.gc.ca/epic/site/cb-bc.nsf/en/02641e.html

"The Bureau's investigation established that under the NHL's rules and procedures, the proposed relocation of a franchise to Southern Ontario would require a majority vote by the NHL Board of Governors. The NHL would not permit any single team to exercise a veto to prevent a franchise from entering into Southern Ontario. "
 

Northboy

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Could Canada survive without the U.S.?

Nicely, in my opinion.

Your thoughts?

Thank you.
Regards,
scratch

If it came down to issues regarding trade, we still have a large market through the Commonwealth of Nations which could be tapped into. The trade agreements are in place and ready to go; a few well thought out trade missions, a few deals and we'd be a'cookin'
 

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If it came down to issues regarding trade, we still have a large market through the Commonwealth of Nations which could be tapped into. The trade agreements are in place and ready to go; a few well thought out trade missions, a few deals and we'd be a'cookin'

Well put.
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EagleSmack

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I have been hearing the "turn the tap off" and "the yanks are going to invade" and "we'll trade with China" for years now... words, words, words.

As they say in the South...

"Ya'll ain't din it yit! Y'aint gona do it!"
 

Avro

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I have been hearing the "turn the tap off" and "the yanks are going to invade" and "we'll trade with China" for years now... words, words, words.

As they say in the South...

"Ya'll ain't din it yit! Y'aint gona do it!"

The question was could we survive without you?

The answer is yes.
 

EagleSmack

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I think Betman might regret granting teams to cities like that though as they aren't exactly market leaders. There is ongoing talk of Jim Basile trying to buy Nashville's team and moving it to Hamilton, Ontario which is a pretty big market.

Hamilton Ont- Metro pop is 692,000

Nashville, TN- Metro pop is 1.5 Million

I don't care how many Canadian players play in the NHL...without the US cities...the NHL dies or is just another Canadian Hockey League.
 

Avro

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Quoting EagleSmack Of the 30 NHL teams there are only 6 teams in Canadian cities...SIX. You think Canada could support an additional 24 teams and be profitable? Not likely...not at all.

The profitable teams are the Canadian teams who have to share that with your welfare cases down in the Uass.:lol:
 

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No ... it could go back to being an elite six team league where REAL hockey was played. It was too much money that watered it down, made it big business and ruined the game

Now that would be something. Six teams... a real ALL Star game every night.
 

EagleSmack

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Drop the player salaries by half and the southern American teams will survive and there will be at least 4 more Canadian teams maybe 5. Regina/Saskatoon, Winnipeg, Hamilton, Quebec City, and even Halifax might be able to do it. The least talented rookie makes 30 times the average national salary, 15 times would still be a lot of dough!

Should this be split and moved to the Hockey forum?

NHL players are the lowest payed athletes of the major sports as it is. They have simply no leverage at all over the league. They could bring in a whole slew of other players nightly and not many would know the difference.
 

Avro

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Hamilton Ont- Metro pop is 692,000

Nashville, TN- Metro pop is 1.5 Million

I don't care how many Canadian players play in the NHL...without the US cities...the NHL dies or is just another Canadian Hockey League.


BS, you could get rid of all but maybe six US teams and make buckets of money and that would include adding more Canadian teams. You'd increase the talent on each team and the ones that couldn't make it can go and play in Europe while you jerk offs watch the excitement of baseball.....yawn.
 

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Avro...if you notice I and many others on this forum do not respond to you because you are not very well liked. Your opinion and thoughts are pretty much ignored as many of us have agreed to do so.
 

Avro

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NHL players are the lowest payed athletes of the major sports as it is. They have simply no leverage at all over the league. They could bring in a whole slew of other players nightly and not many would know the difference.

Try making a comment that shows you have an idea what you are talking about.

I know you guys in the US don't like hockey, it's to fast for you, which is why fox had to highlight the puck during games so you fat headed slow pokes knew where the puck was. Stick to golf and baseball or even football if you want geezer pace.:roll: