Canadians prefer Trump over trudeau

davesmom

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Trudeau is the biggest disaster to ever hit Canada. The nerve of him calling Canadians 'racists' because they don't like the influx of illegal immigrants! Trudeau doesn't appear to have a functioning brain at all. He is using his position as PM to live out his childish fantasies, hasn't done anything of substance and can't even make an intelligent statement. He is selling Canada down the tube to Muslims and won't stop until we are under Islamic law. He is an embarrassment to Canada. That there are still people who would support him and vote for him says it all about what our society has become - a bunch of nitwits who cannot think for themselves and can't recognize the speeding train coming straight at us. At the rate the Liberals are moving to destroy Canada, this will be a third world country within 2 years and our rights and freedoms will be gone forever.
 

JLM

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Trudeau is the biggest disaster to ever hit Canada. The nerve of him calling Canadians 'racists' because they don't like the influx of illegal immigrants! Trudeau doesn't appear to have a functioning brain at all. He is using his position as PM to live out his childish fantasies, hasn't done anything of substance and can't even make an intelligent statement. He is selling Canada down the tube to Muslims and won't stop until we are under Islamic law. He is an embarrassment to Canada. That there are still people who would support him and vote for him says it all about what our society has become - a bunch of nitwits who cannot think for themselves and can't recognize the speeding train coming straight at us. At the rate the Liberals are moving to destroy Canada, this will be a third world country within 2 years and our rights and freedoms will be gone forever.


We probably have a hundred thousand Indigenous people in the country who need help and most of them were born here. Anyway I'm glad to see you're back...............this forum can use all the sensible people it can get.
 

gerryh

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Trudeau is the biggest disaster to ever hit Canada. The nerve of him calling Canadians 'racists' because they don't like the influx of illegal immigrants! Trudeau doesn't appear to have a functioning brain at all. He is using his position as PM to live out his childish fantasies, hasn't done anything of substance and can't even make an intelligent statement. He is selling Canada down the tube to Muslims and won't stop until we are under Islamic law. He is an embarrassment to Canada. That there are still people who would support him and vote for him says it all about what our society has become - a bunch of nitwits who cannot think for themselves and can't recognize the speeding train coming straight at us. At the rate the Liberals are moving to destroy Canada, this will be a third world country within 2 years and our rights and freedoms will be gone forever.



You're a racist.
 

Cliffy

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Trudeau is the biggest disaster to ever hit Canada. The nerve of him calling Canadians 'racists' because they don't like the influx of illegal immigrants! Trudeau doesn't appear to have a functioning brain at all. He is using his position as PM to live out his childish fantasies, hasn't done anything of substance and can't even make an intelligent statement. He is selling Canada down the tube to Muslims and won't stop until we are under Islamic law. He is an embarrassment to Canada. That there are still people who would support him and vote for him says it all about what our society has become - a bunch of nitwits who cannot think for themselves and can't recognize the speeding train coming straight at us. At the rate the Liberals are moving to destroy Canada, this will be a third world country within 2 years and our rights and freedoms will be gone forever.
We are all gonna die!!!!
 

gerryh

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Aren't we all to some degree? When it's a toss up between one race and another and all else is fairly equal, I'll pick the race who was born &/or lives here! :)


We are all definitely bigoted to a certain degree. But we aren't all as stupid and useless as she is. Hard core, right wing, supremacist like her are definitely racists.
 

spilledthebeer

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We are all definitely bigoted to a certain degree. But we aren't all as stupid and useless as she is. Hard core, right wing, supremacist like her are definitely racists.

Here is a post illustrating that Our idiot Boy Justin is trying to kill NAFTA! Consider:


Here is an article that illustrates that Our idiot Boy Justin is so bigoted against Yankees that he is prepared to tear up NAFTA and let our economy take a big hit- just so he can sneer at Trump over Muslim terror issues! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Canadian NAFTA demands confront D.C. reality. Canadian Press
Alexander Panetta.THE CANADIAN PRESS/Sean Kilpatrick


For many young Canadians, home won’t be a house

WASHINGTON - Some of Canada's key demands in the upcoming NAFTA renegotiation will be a tough sell in the United States, according to former American trade officials who say they will be difficult to achieve in the climate of a Donald Trump, America First-themed presidency.

The Canadian government has just released priorities for the talks which begin Wednesday and they include a broad desire for four new chapters, and two specific demands: fewer Buy American rules for public contracts and freer movement of professionals.

It's the latter two some see as a long shot.

(Yeah- especially when the Cdn “professionals” may be members of a terrorist organization- and I don’t NOT necessarily mean Muslims! Chinese military is desperately seeking out technology of all sorts from better jet engines for their fighters to electronic warfare clues to stealth technology for THEIR version of f-117! It was Yankee hater Pierre Trudope who told us “Canada has no secrets” so we don’t need to watch for spies here”!)

(But Our Pet LIED! WE DO have secrets! As part of NORAD- the North American defense system, we have access to all sorts of secrets Yankees want to hide! Chinese and others regard Canada as the quiet back door into Yankee society! Either we get with the picture and cooperate with Yankees for our MUTUAL defense or we get CUT OUT-with Nafta hanging in the balance! Our idiot Boy does not worry about China any more than his communist father worried about Stalin and Soviet Union. If North Korean nutbars shoot nuclear missiles at United States- those missiles will cross over northern Canada- we WILL be in a war regardless of what our Yankee hating idiot Boy wants!)

(Of course what Trump REALLY worries about is our total lack of security or control over the hordes of strangers- many of them Muslims, entering Canada illegally, Trump and Yankees worry that sloppy and almost non existent Cdn security will overlook Muslim terror cells based in Canada and raiding into United States! After all the two biggest recent Muslim terror attacks were BOTH thwarted by FBI!)

That includes a former official who oversaw procurement at the United States Trade Representative. Speaking in an interview a few days before Canada formally announced its positions, Stephen Kho explained why it's always been difficult to extend free trade in procurement to the state and local level, as Canada wants.

Canada has long desired a similar level of access to contracts at the subnational level that it enjoys at the federal level — and it mostly failed to get that in negotiations for the now-stalled Trans-Pacific Partnership.

(LIE-berals conveniently IGNORE the Cdn reality that Quebec construction companies can bid on federal govt construction jobs in Ontari-owe and that Ontari-owe companies CANNOT bid on such jobs in Quebec! Hypocrite LIE-berals ignore other trade restrictions such as it being easier to buy Australian, Chilean and South African wines in British Columbia than it is to buy Ontari-owe wines! Our idiot Boy ought to worry more about CDN PROVINCIAL FREE TRADE! )

Kho says he doesn't see how this changes now.

(And what do LIE-berals offer to Yankees in exchange for greater trade freedom? Nothing but potential Muslim terror threats and the opportunity for Chinese agents to BUY valuable Yankee military and economic secrets from Cdns!)

American politics is moving in the opposite direction: Trump was elected on a promise to increase Buy American rules, not reduce them; it's even a stated U.S. priority for the new NAFTA; the opposition is also with Trump on this, with Democratic lawmakers calling for NAFTA to allow less foreign procurement, not more.

"It might be a problem," said Kho, who was lead counsel on Buy American/procurement issues at USTR and now works at the Akin Gump firm.
© Provided by thecanadianpress.com

"It's particularly going to be true of the Trump administration. It's made it a point, very publicly, of tightening up the exceptions rules, waivers ... (and proclaiming) America First. That will make it particularly difficult — and it's difficult already."

He said it's always good to talk about new ideas, but: "I don't think expectations should be too high for this being liberalized further."

(The ugly reality is that Our idiot Boy could make much of this Yankee hostility go away by recognizing that Yankee security worries are also OUR worries! But that would mean Our idiot Boy would take a blow to his pride and arrogance- that wonderful Trudope sense that he is an exalted leader and ENTITLED to sneer at Yankees- no matter what it costs Canada!)

Canada announced that more liberalized procurement would be a priority, in a speech Monday by Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland in which on the eve of her departure to Washington for round one of the NAFTA talks, she laid out about 10 priorities.

(IN other words LIE-berals and Freeland seriously expect that Trump will reverse his course simply because stupid LIE-berals want him to!)

She referred to the economic argument against buy-local rules.

"Local-content provisions for major government contracts are political junk food: superficially appetizing, but unhealthy in the long run," Freeland said.

(IN other words- LIE-berals are going to IGNORE real Yankee concerns and instead will bullshit them with demands we don’t even allow in trade between OUR provinces!)

The basic argument against these provisions is they drive up the cost of projects — so taxpayers pay more, they get fewer new roads and bridges for their money, that reduces economic activity and in the long run it doesn't save the economy any jobs.

But it's politically popular.

Polls show huge voter support for buy-local policies amongst Americans, although more detailed polling has, on the other hand, shown that voters prefer getting a bargain to paying more for a product just because it's made at home.

Professional visas was another of the more detailed priorities Freeland mentioned.

What Canada wants is changes to a NAFTA jobs list which allows some people to more easily get a visa to work across the border.

The jobs list is old and outdated. It mentions land surveyors and range conservationists, for instance, but not computer programmers. International companies want that jobs list in Chapter 16 expanded to make it easier for employees to move between offices.

(The job list also leaves out any real list of politically sensitive jobs that Yankees do NOT ant Muslims doing on their territory and of course idiot Boy will not agree to this as it is discriminatory to his newly purchased army of Muslim voters! Just because LIE-berals are so desperate to cling to power that they will let an army of Muslims take over Canada does not mean Yankees will do the same in their lands!)

Robert Holleyman, former deputy U.S. trade czar to Barack Obama, says any changes to labour mobility could prove difficult. In an interview several days ago, before Freeland spoke, he predicted worker mobility might get swept into the turbulent U.S. immigration debate.

(Yeah, Muslim terrorists, Chinese spies and Indian call centres and major numbers of Mexicans snaring lots of blue collar jobs are one thing but Cdns are another- UNLESS Yankees continue to be pissed to lax Cdn security!)

That immigration issue has been fought to a stalemate in the American Congress. Congressional paralysis on immigration-related reforms is one reason that NAFTA list has never been updated.

And the mood in Congress matters: in the end, it will have to vote on any NAFTA deal.

(With President Trump having major powers over any deal- we had best play up to those REAL Yankee security concerns- unless it is the desire of Our idiot Boy to wreck NAFTA-as seems likely?)

"I think any question that deals with mobility of persons will be very difficult for the U.S. to do," said Holleyman, who is now president of C&M International.

"I think it would be, in any case — but particularly in the context of the current debates about immigration. I suspect that'll be very difficult for the U.S. to do."

(What it all comes down to is Cdn LIE-berals do ENJOY thumbing their noses at the Yankees THEY hate in spite of the economic costs to Canada by deliberately sabotaging the Nafta talks! Trump is trying to help Yankee economy while Our idiot Boy is working to HURT us out of spite!)
 

White_Unifier

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Canada should just unilaterally drop all tariffs and then negotiate for further integration from there.
 

Curious Cdn

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For good reason............................he's preferable to Trudeau!

Who?Not the Drumpfster, surly? Trudeau is lite wate but Trump is a mad, criminal con-man. I'd rather have fluff over the foaming mouth.
 

Curious Cdn

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Who?Not the Drumpfster, surly? Trudeau is lite wate but Trump is a mad, criminal con-man. I'd rather have fluff over the foaming mouth.

Walter doesn't like this post.

Perhaps, he would like to buy into my Moose Meadows real estate development?
 

tay

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Survey finds ‘dramatic shift’ in Canadian perception of U.S. approach to human rights


For the first time in 13 years, Canadians think they have more in common with Britain and Germany's approach to human rights than that of the United States, a new survey suggests.

The finding is the latest in a 13-year tracking of Canadian and American perceptions of the bi-national relationship by Nanos Research and the State University of New York at Buffalo.

Survey participants on both sides of the border were asked which countries are closest to theirs on human rights. Forty-four per cent of Canadian respondents said Canada most closely aligns with Britain on human rights, followed by Germany at 25 per cent and the U.S. at 16 per cent.

We've seen a dramatic shift in the perceptions of Canadians of Americans on human rights. This has actually hit the lowest level since we first started recording this data under George Bush Jr.," said pollster Nik Nanos, global fellow at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars in Washington.

"The current number under President [Donald] Trump is lower than George Bush Jr. when he was in the midst of his war on terror."
Asked the same question, 43 per cent of Americans said the U.S. most closely relates to Canada on human rights, followed by Britain (30 per cent), France (9 per cent), Germany (6 per cent), China (5 per cent), Japan (4 per cent) and Mexico (3 per cent).

As Canadian opinions of human rights in the U.S. started to decline in 2015, perceptions of Germany started to improve, yearly tracking shows

Germany garnered international attention in 2015 when it welcomed more than one million migrants – many of them Syrian refugee claimants. Meanwhile, the Syrian refugee crisis was also making headlines in Canada, where it became a defining issue in the 2015 federal election after an image of a three-year-old Syrian boy, Alan Kurdi, dead on a Turkish beach, hit close to home. The boy's aunt Tima Kurdi was from British Columbia. Federal party leaders came under pressure to present a plan for Syrian refugee resettlement.

Canadians are also concerned about Chinese goods and visitors entering the country, the poll indicated. Half of Canadian respondents said Chinese goods should face the toughest scrutiny from customs officers when entering the country, followed by those from Mexico at 38 per cent and the goods from the U.S. at 8 per cent. Asked whose visitors should be questioned most thoroughly, 40 per cent of Canadians said China, followed by Mexico at 31 per cent and the U.S. at 18 per cent.

"The reputation of China in Canada is still a work in progress. Canadians understand the opportunity that exists, but they have concerns," Mr. Nanos said.

The poll results come as corporations attempt to change Canadians' opinions of the world's second-biggest economy. Bankrolled by major corporations, the Public Policy Forum is leading a two-year campaign to persuade Canadians to embrace a free-trade deal with China.



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https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/ne...-us-approach-to-human-rights/article36039280/
 

spilledthebeer

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Canada should just unilaterally drop all tariffs and then negotiate for further integration from there.

Oh you poor thing....you do not understand that Our idiot Boy Justin WANTS to sabotage NAFTA! of course a bunch of Yankee TEA Party types want to do the same thing for different reasons! Our idiot Boy is a Yankee hater and will do and dare anything to snub them. And Tea Party types want to take United States BACK to the 1930`s isolation. Yankees are our friends and allies but there are meddlers and trouble makers on both sides of the border! Consider:

I have said before that foreign interest groups are interfering in Cdn elections for their own selfish reasons. WE now have proof of the scale and scope of that interference courtesy of Ezra Levant who details the scope of union and foreign involvement in the recent British Columbia provincial elections.

Some people want to discredit Levant as being an `responsible` journalist-as if being passionate about trying to head off national trouble was a fault! And they point to Levant losing a slander lawsuit against a Muslim-as if failing to provide proof of the hostile intent of a radical Muslim to a LIE-beral appointed judge whose main goal in life is to defend LIE-neral immigration policy is proof of Levant ignorance. LIE-berals miss no chance to smear Levant and Toronto Sun and any other public voice-for their own selfish reasons! LIE-berals have already closed their eyes to any possible Muslim threat and consider Levant to be a thorn in their sides- LIE-berals want to censor and silence ALL opposition regardless of the validityor motivation of the opposition!

I present the Levant article below, along with some comments of my own in brackets). It makes for ugly reading and Cdns ought to be fearful for the future of democracy in this country! :

Made in the U.S.A.: B.C. election donation list rife with front groups for American anti-oilsands lobbyists. By Ezra Levant, QMI Agency

First posted: Monday, May 13, 2013 07:24 PM EDT | Updated: Monday, May 13, 2013 08:20 PM EDT

B.C. NDP playing dangerous politics with oil

Will U.S. donors tip the balance of the B.C. election, and install an NDP government?

(I say U.S. oil producers are using an environmental shield to hide behind as they strive to shut down Cdn oil production in order to make THEIR OWN production more valuable! Its simple supply and demand-restrict the Cdn supply and the U.S. price can be forced UP!))

The list of “advertising sponsors” who have registered with Elections B.C. suggests they will.

The B.C. Liberal Party will likely out-fundraise the NDP when it comes to direct contributions. But the list of third party campaigners shows countless other bank accounts at work, most of them going to bat for the NDP.

Dozens of unions are campaigning. Teachers unions, nurses unions, government bureaucrats unions, student unions, as well as unions of unions like the Canadian Labour Congress and the B.C. Federation of Labour.

(I say these unions care nothing for the environment nor for U.S. gas producers-all the want is GRAVY-and they figure that NDP is most likely to give it too them! This is not democracy, this is BRIBERY!))

Each of the unions is allowed to spend up to $150,000 on the election. Which is precisely why there are so many groups. A $150,000 limit for teachers unions doesn’t mean much when every union local can register on its own.

There are a handful of pro-business campaigns — the coal association is registered, for example. But they’re outnumbered 10 to one.

With 200-plus campaign groups registered, it’s conceivable the NDP could receive $20 million or more in advertising support from these lobby groups.

For comparison, the federal Conservative Party was permitted to spend only

$21 million in the last election, ACROSS THE ENTIRE COUNTRY!.

There is a democratic problem when union bosses extract forced union dues from their members to spend on one side of an election. But at least those unions are Canadian. What about foreign money sloshing into the race?

The campaign list is rife with front groups for American anti-oilsands lobbyists.

Take Forest Ethics, the San Francisco-based environmental extremist group. Last April, they announced they were opening a Canadian branch plant, called Forest Ethics Advocacy, to “strike back” at Canadian government policy. Anyone interested in this all-Canadian venture was invited to call the San Francisco office for more info.

They’re registered in the B.C. election and can spend up to $150,000.

(I say if these people are so concerned about the environment then why don’t they go shut down the La Brea tar sands project in California? Apparently only Cdns are capable of producing pollution?)

So can Greenpeace Canada, the local affiliate of the multinational corporation headquartered in Amsterdam. In 2011, Amsterdam sent $612,000 to Canada for local operations. How much of that will end up in B.C.’s campaign?

(I say Greenpeace is headquartered in Amsterdam? GEE-that’s where Royal DUTCH Shell has its headquarters? You don’t suppose Shell Oil is helping this `Greenpeace` effort to influence the B. C. election? Some people in B.C. are opposed to building a pipeline to the west coast to export Cdn oil and a cynic would say Shell/Greenpeace have become partners in trying to shut down Cdn oil production? Greenpeace simply wants a world without oil-even if we have to starve and freeze in the dark and of course Shell would like a MUCH bigger market for its oil shipped from Nigeria and from middle east! GREED makes for strange bed fellows?)

The Dogwood Initiative named themselves after B.C.’s official flower. But they’ve received hundreds of thousands of dollars from U.S. foundations for the explicit purpose of political campaigns. They have too many sugar-daddies to list: From Seattle alone they’re funded by the Bullitt Foundation, the Wilburforce Foundation and the Brainerd Foundation.

(I ask who are these people and what do they really want from us? And can we afford to pay? Too bad we have NO good answers!)

Dogwood’s director, Eric Swanson, once boasted that he’d “take duffel bags of money delivered from Martians from outer space” if he could.

Other U.S.-funded lobby groups in the B.C. election include Ecojustice, West Coast Environmental Law, Raincoast Conservation Society and Tides Canada Initiatives Society. That’s an affiliate of Tides Canada and the San Francisco-based Tides Foundation, which have poured tens of millions of dollars into at least 44 different anti-oilsands groups in B.C. Their mission is to stop Canadian oil from getting to market.

Tides’ specialty is secret donations. A foreign billionaire can tell Tides to put his money against the oilsands, and Tides will simply call it an “anonymous” gift.

It’s incredible that U.S.-funded groups are allowed to campaign in a Canadian election. Even more incredible is that so many of these groups have charitable status with the Canada Revenue Agency.
 

tay

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Trudeau should thank Trump for his continued popularity in Canada

An Abacus poll published in late July pegged support for Trudeau’s Liberals in Quebec at 53 per cent. That’s well above their election showing and almost 30 points ahead of the Conservatives, the Bloc Québécois and the NDP.

Over a summer break dominated by Trump-related developments, both main opposition parties have fallen well short of offering an effective critique of the government’s approach, let alone a constructive alternative.

Calling on Trudeau’s principal secretary Gerald Butts to publicly disown his reported friendship with then-Trump adviser Steve Bannon as Mulcair did last week only raises more questions as to how an NDP government would manage the relationship with an unpredictable White House. At last check, building bridges — not burning them — was part of the brief of senior PMO officials.

Meanwhile the Conservatives whose flirt with dog-whistle identity politics pre-dates Trump’s victory are scrambling to belatedly put much-needed distance between their party and the fallout from a toxic presidency.

While the opposition fiddles the Liberals have acquired a lot of political cover for their handling of the Canada/U.S. file. On the Conservative front, former federal minister James Moore and Rona Ambrose, the party’s recent interim leader, have both joined an advisory group that acts as a sounding board for the government on NAFTA.

Canada’s two NDP premiers as well as senior members of the Canadian labour movement are also in the trade renegotiation loop.

Despite the breaking of signature election promises ranging from the size of budget deficits to electoral reform, mounting acrimony on the Indigenous front, concerns over a sudden abundance of border-crossing asylum seekers and a cabinet team whose learning curve is proving to be steep, Trudeau — as his government nears mid-mandate — is in better shape in national voting intentions than Mulroney, Chrétien and Harper were at the same juncture. He can thank Trump for part of that.

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JLM

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Before Trudeau gets very much further down the path of his career, he might find out that the 'nice' guys don't always get the respect they might expect from people with strong character!