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B00Mer

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Always makes me chuckle when someone has to revert to labels like nazi or racist to punctuate a point





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spilledthebeer

Executive Branch Member
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You do seem to rag on there Trumptard...

You must be a Trump tea bagger :lol:

Only LIE-berals do not think the devil in the details is important! And Trump may be a little wacko by conventional standards but thus far the Trump haters have produced NO evidence of anything done wrong. It is not a crime to talk to Russians- in fact a whole pile of Yankees encouraged president Nixon to do that in support of detente- which was nothing but Soviet fakery designed to aid and encourage left wing loons. And lots if Yankees cried when Regan refused to talk to Soviets and simply referred to them as "Evil Empire"!

AS for Our idiot Boy Justin and his poison politics- aided and abetted by provincial LIE-berals- here is why LIE-berals are so often CURSED by Cdns- and since Our idiot Boy is the most senior LIE-beraland the one running rthose sickening 30 billion dollar deficits, he gets the most curses :

Here is an article illustrating the total failure of LIE-beral environmental policy since its all based on LIE-beral need for gravy and has NOTHING to do with cleaning the air! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Cap and trade deja vu- Wynne government appears to be making the same mistakes the Liberals did with their disastrous Green Energy Act

Tom Adams, Guest Columnist. First posted: Saturday, January 14, 2017 08:19 PM EST | Updated: Saturday, January 14, 2017 08:23 PM EST

If you doubt carbon dioxide (CO2) is a dangerous pollutant, you probably think the $156 Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne claims her new cap and trade policy will cost your family this year in direct charges for gasoline and natural gas home heating, is a rip-off.

After all, the hidden carbon price you’ve been paying on your electricity bills for years — which has nothing to do with cap and trade — might be enough for you.

But even if you think the polar bears are dying, extreme weather events caused by CO2 have accelerated, the glaciers are disappearing, and that climate change is already spiking up food costs, you might still be concerned with how Ontario’s new climate control program is being administered.

Ontario Auditor General Bonnie Lysysk has warned, “As of June, 2016, no mechanism had been put in place to prevent the double-reporting of emissions reductions from the buying and selling of (CO2) allowances” under Wynne’s cap and trade plan.

(Auditor Lysysk is the former senior auditor of Manitoba Hydro and she was hired by Ontari-owe LIE-berals apparently because LIE-berals thought she would not be able to find the skeletons in the LIE-beral energy closet! Lysyk is smarter and more experienced than LIE-berals gave credit for!)

Indeed, the complexity of that program and its still unclear rules make it impossible to verify the government’s assurances they have their accounting right.

(This is no accident- LIE-berals want us to drink the climate Koolaid WITHOUT asking what is in the mix! LIE-berals are using the Hydro files and Carbon crap and trade mess to create a giant slush fund to BUY support for LIE-beral party!)

The fear is Wynne’s cap and trade initiative may repeat history by following in the same footsteps as the Liberals’ disastrous Green Energy and Green Economy Act of 2009, with its multi-billion dollar boondoggles.

Indeed, the government is using the same rhetoric to justify cap and trade as it did the Green Energy Act.

(LIE-berals do not wish to discuss the fact that their Carbon crap and trade scam is modeled after the disgraced European model that has made organized crime figures and criminal stock traders rich while impoverishing ordinary people and doing nothing to clean the air!)

That is that it will, “save households and businesses money, create good jobs in clean tech and construction, and generate opportunities for investment in Ontario”.

(Records from world leader in wind and solar power-Spain reveals that green jobs require huge tax subsidies and that they actually DESTROY about three times more jobs than they create-without cleaning the air! Its all just a govt scam to reward friends and screw enemies!)

But the Green Energy Act also caused a sustained upward march in electricity rates.

(Its actually the need for more money for LIE-berals to BUY the votes of supporters/civil service Hogs that is driving the price up- with LIE-beral using green energy excuses to rip us off and confuse the issue!)

There was a green economic bonanza, but only for the relative few who were awarded fat government power contracts.

Assigning tonnages to foregone carbon dioxide emissions with free “emission offsets” under cap and trade, is similar to the way the government previously justified heavily subsidizing energy conservation programs.

(Govt is under HUGE pressure to hand out carbon emission exemptions to large companies or else see them pack up and leave for a lower cost location with resulting loss of jobs and income for Ontari-owe! It is this need to save jobs that has turned the European Carbon crap and trade scam into such a fiasco!)

Also, similarly, cap and trade creates vast new opportunities for bureaucratic and consultant growth, and staffing such new requirements as “accredited verification bodies”.

(Which translates into large numbers of bodies dedicated to selling the LIE-beral scam- and dedicated to LIE-beral party for their pay cheques that are supplied using money beaten out of our hides!)

The new “green bank” the government has announced will no doubt need lots of executives.

Wynne claims, “By law, all proceeds from cap and trade must be invested in projects that reduce greenhouse gas emissions.”

(LIE-berals are interested in electric cars and much has been written about what a costly failure such a program would be as current electric car technology is simply not ready for main stream day to day use! But LIE-berals are intrigued by the tax revenue and manipulation possible in setting up an electric car market- with the added bonus that their green energy pals would have that new car market as captive audience/purchasers of mouldy green energy! LIE-berals are blind to the safety risk of highly flammable Lithium batteries in a car crash and are not concerned about the hugely toxic effects of Lithium refining which rivals or even exceeds the toxic effects of oil! With the added bonus that the supply of Lithium is LESS than the supply of oil! LIE-berals are trying to create a costly car market needing huge govt subsidies for its basic survival and based on a very limited supply of highly toxic Lithium fuel! With the added bonus that the new Tesla sedan is about 25 percent higher in price than a comparable gas car- even after all the gross govt subsidies are added in!)

Another Liberal talking point is that, “Ontario’s residential electrical rates are also average relative to the rest of North America.”

(This is another LIE-beral claim- in LIE-beral `speak` their reference to average prices means the Ontari-owe price is only 25 -50 percent higher!

To the extent the government has disclosed its plans, something quite different appears to be happening with the proceeds of cap and trade.

It suggests even Wynne’s green gang realizes their electricity rate equality claim is nonsense.

If they checked, the Liberals would see Ontario’s average residential power rates are about 13% above those in the contiguous United States.

(Rates in nearby Quebec and Manitoba are well below the roughly 13 percent claim- its another LIE-beral fudging of numbers! With the added bonus that WE are subsidizing Yankee electricity rates by selling off masses of mouldy green energy at idiot costs. LIE-berals have made sure that we cannot shut the supply of mouldy green because Hogs need their gravy and which we cannot use because we cannot afford it- so it has to be dumped some place at a huge loss!)

The main purpose of Ontario’s new cap and trade program appears to be to fund a new revenue stream to address the public’s concerns about rising power rates.

(And the hydro rates are rising due to LIE-beral vote buying of Hogs and other groups such as Muslims and immigrants! LIE-berals are apparently determined to cling to power at any price!)

Indeed, the largest single spending item for cap and trade revenue — $1 to 1.3 billion — is earmarked to subsidize the cost of power in time for the next Ontario election in 2018.

(As previously mentioned- the 2017 Ontari-owe LIE-beral budget is all smoke and mirrors- they are hiding a structural deficit this year by using the cash from the one time sale of our Hydro system to private investors-meaning LIE-beral pals! With the added bonus that revenue that would have come back to us from electricity sales are now being syphoned off to pay LIE-beral investors! And LIE-berals have slammed shut the Hydro file books and refuse to discuss what they are hiding in there- and expect us to swallow this crap! If LIE-berals BUY enough Hogs votes to cling to power in the 2018 election then we can expect a financial blood bath in 2019 as LIE-berals loot and pillage our economy to pay for all their costly promises!)

Additional spending and regulatory interventions under the government’s climate action strategy attempt to push consumers into greater dependency on electricity for transportation and home heating.

(Thus increasing the flow of gravy to LIE-berals and their greedy supporters!)

One of cap and trade’s dark corners is that not all large industrial greenhouse gas emitters are being treated the same.

Some are getting free allocations of carbon dioxide emission permits for the first four years of the program, while others are being charged for them.

(LIE-beral policy discriminates on various levels- their offer of a 25 percent reduction in electricity costs has numerous holes that will see rural users continue to pay high rates and it will also give rebates to large unionized companies that can supply votes to LIE-beral while starving out smaller companies that are not unionized and thus not friends of LIE-berals! Its all about union solidarity and buying Hog votes and large companies have the union staff to supply that support- and to hell with LIE-beral unfriendly smaller companies!)

When the government says, “The free allocations are to protect Ontario jobs in industries that are competing with jurisdictions without a carbon pricing system, and to recognize industries that have made significant emission reductions already and need time to invest in new technology”, it isn’t wrong.

But are friends of the government getting free carbon allowances, similar to the way many wind power companies who donated to the Liberal party received heavily subsidized power contracts?

For now, the government says the list of companies who have received free allocations will remain confidential, to be released at a later date.

(The list will be confidential so we wont get upset at the shameless vote buying perhaps? And is this not why LIE-berals have slammed shut the Hydro file books now that they have sold much of the system to their FRIENDS? No need for the public to see the true extent of LIE-beral dirt?)

But secret handouts of valuable free emission allowances to certain industries- and not others- is a recipe for public concern about the potential for political corruption.

At a minimum, if politically favoured companies are showered with valuable emission allowances granted for free, it will make the government’s cap and trade mess even more difficult for any future government to unwind.

(And of course it is the giving of free carbon credits to big companies that is behind much of the European Carbon crap and trade scandal with its various scams and rip offs- it is the very eminently corruptible and easily manipulated system that LIE-berals have adopted for us! LIE-beral policy only cleans wallets, but NOT the air!)

- Adams is an independent energy and environmental adviser and researcher focused on energy consumer issues.
 

JamesBondo

House Member
Mar 3, 2012
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Only LIE-berals do not think the devil in the details is important! And Trump may be a little wacko by conventional standards but thus far the Trump haters have produced NO evidence of anything done wrong. It is not a crime to talk to Russians- in fact a whole pile of Yankees encouraged president Nixon to do that in support of detente- which was nothing but Soviet fakery designed to aid and encourage left wing loons. And lots if Yankees cried when Regan refused to talk to Soviets and simply referred to them as "Evil Empire"!

AS for Our idiot Boy Justin and his poison politics- aided and abetted by provincial LIE-berals- here is why LIE-berals are so often CURSED by Cdns- and since Our idiot Boy is the most senior LIE-beraland the one running rthose sickening 30 billion dollar deficits, he gets the most curses :

Here is an article illustrating the total failure of LIE-beral environmental policy since its all based on LIE-beral need for gravy and has NOTHING to do with cleaning the air! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Cap and trade deja vu- Wynne government appears to be making the same mistakes the Liberals did with their disastrous Green Energy Act

Tom Adams, Guest Columnist. First posted: Saturday, January 14, 2017 08:19 PM EST | Updated: Saturday, January 14, 2017 08:23 PM EST

If you doubt carbon dioxide (CO2) is a dangerous pollutant, you probably think the $156 Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne claims her new cap and trade policy will cost your family this year in direct charges for gasoline and natural gas home heating, is a rip-off.

After all, the hidden carbon price you’ve been paying on your electricity bills for years — which has nothing to do with cap and trade — might be enough for you.

But even if you think the polar bears are dying, extreme weather events caused by CO2 have accelerated, the glaciers are disappearing, and that climate change is already spiking up food costs, you might still be concerned with how Ontario’s new climate control program is being administered.

Ontario Auditor General Bonnie Lysysk has warned, “As of June, 2016, no mechanism had been put in place to prevent the double-reporting of emissions reductions from the buying and selling of (CO2) allowances” under Wynne’s cap and trade plan.

(Auditor Lysysk is the former senior auditor of Manitoba Hydro and she was hired by Ontari-owe LIE-berals apparently because LIE-berals thought she would not be able to find the skeletons in the LIE-beral energy closet! Lysyk is smarter and more experienced than LIE-berals gave credit for!)

Indeed, the complexity of that program and its still unclear rules make it impossible to verify the government’s assurances they have their accounting right.

(This is no accident- LIE-berals want us to drink the climate Koolaid WITHOUT asking what is in the mix! LIE-berals are using the Hydro files and Carbon crap and trade mess to create a giant slush fund to BUY support for LIE-beral party!)

The fear is Wynne’s cap and trade initiative may repeat history by following in the same footsteps as the Liberals’ disastrous Green Energy and Green Economy Act of 2009, with its multi-billion dollar boondoggles.

Indeed, the government is using the same rhetoric to justify cap and trade as it did the Green Energy Act.

(LIE-berals do not wish to discuss the fact that their Carbon crap and trade scam is modeled after the disgraced European model that has made organized crime figures and criminal stock traders rich while impoverishing ordinary people and doing nothing to clean the air!)

That is that it will, “save households and businesses money, create good jobs in clean tech and construction, and generate opportunities for investment in Ontario”.

(Records from world leader in wind and solar power-Spain reveals that green jobs require huge tax subsidies and that they actually DESTROY about three times more jobs than they create-without cleaning the air! Its all just a govt scam to reward friends and screw enemies!)

But the Green Energy Act also caused a sustained upward march in electricity rates.

(Its actually the need for more money for LIE-berals to BUY the votes of supporters/civil service Hogs that is driving the price up- with LIE-beral using green energy excuses to rip us off and confuse the issue!)

There was a green economic bonanza, but only for the relative few who were awarded fat government power contracts.

Assigning tonnages to foregone carbon dioxide emissions with free “emission offsets” under cap and trade, is similar to the way the government previously justified heavily subsidizing energy conservation programs.

(Govt is under HUGE pressure to hand out carbon emission exemptions to large companies or else see them pack up and leave for a lower cost location with resulting loss of jobs and income for Ontari-owe! It is this need to save jobs that has turned the European Carbon crap and trade scam into such a fiasco!)

Also, similarly, cap and trade creates vast new opportunities for bureaucratic and consultant growth, and staffing such new requirements as “accredited verification bodies”.

(Which translates into large numbers of bodies dedicated to selling the LIE-beral scam- and dedicated to LIE-beral party for their pay cheques that are supplied using money beaten out of our hides!)

The new “green bank” the government has announced will no doubt need lots of executives.

Wynne claims, “By law, all proceeds from cap and trade must be invested in projects that reduce greenhouse gas emissions.”

(LIE-berals are interested in electric cars and much has been written about what a costly failure such a program would be as current electric car technology is simply not ready for main stream day to day use! But LIE-berals are intrigued by the tax revenue and manipulation possible in setting up an electric car market- with the added bonus that their green energy pals would have that new car market as captive audience/purchasers of mouldy green energy! LIE-berals are blind to the safety risk of highly flammable Lithium batteries in a car crash and are not concerned about the hugely toxic effects of Lithium refining which rivals or even exceeds the toxic effects of oil! With the added bonus that the supply of Lithium is LESS than the supply of oil! LIE-berals are trying to create a costly car market needing huge govt subsidies for its basic survival and based on a very limited supply of highly toxic Lithium fuel! With the added bonus that the new Tesla sedan is about 25 percent higher in price than a comparable gas car- even after all the gross govt subsidies are added in!)

Another Liberal talking point is that, “Ontario’s residential electrical rates are also average relative to the rest of North America.”

(This is another LIE-beral claim- in LIE-beral `speak` their reference to average prices means the Ontari-owe price is only 25 -50 percent higher!

To the extent the government has disclosed its plans, something quite different appears to be happening with the proceeds of cap and trade.

It suggests even Wynne’s green gang realizes their electricity rate equality claim is nonsense.

If they checked, the Liberals would see Ontario’s average residential power rates are about 13% above those in the contiguous United States.

(Rates in nearby Quebec and Manitoba are well below the roughly 13 percent claim- its another LIE-beral fudging of numbers! With the added bonus that WE are subsidizing Yankee electricity rates by selling off masses of mouldy green energy at idiot costs. LIE-berals have made sure that we cannot shut the supply of mouldy green because Hogs need their gravy and which we cannot use because we cannot afford it- so it has to be dumped some place at a huge loss!)

The main purpose of Ontario’s new cap and trade program appears to be to fund a new revenue stream to address the public’s concerns about rising power rates.

(And the hydro rates are rising due to LIE-beral vote buying of Hogs and other groups such as Muslims and immigrants! LIE-berals are apparently determined to cling to power at any price!)

Indeed, the largest single spending item for cap and trade revenue — $1 to 1.3 billion — is earmarked to subsidize the cost of power in time for the next Ontario election in 2018.

(As previously mentioned- the 2017 Ontari-owe LIE-beral budget is all smoke and mirrors- they are hiding a structural deficit this year by using the cash from the one time sale of our Hydro system to private investors-meaning LIE-beral pals! With the added bonus that revenue that would have come back to us from electricity sales are now being syphoned off to pay LIE-beral investors! And LIE-berals have slammed shut the Hydro file books and refuse to discuss what they are hiding in there- and expect us to swallow this crap! If LIE-berals BUY enough Hogs votes to cling to power in the 2018 election then we can expect a financial blood bath in 2019 as LIE-berals loot and pillage our economy to pay for all their costly promises!)

Additional spending and regulatory interventions under the government’s climate action strategy attempt to push consumers into greater dependency on electricity for transportation and home heating.

(Thus increasing the flow of gravy to LIE-berals and their greedy supporters!)

One of cap and trade’s dark corners is that not all large industrial greenhouse gas emitters are being treated the same.

Some are getting free allocations of carbon dioxide emission permits for the first four years of the program, while others are being charged for them.

(LIE-beral policy discriminates on various levels- their offer of a 25 percent reduction in electricity costs has numerous holes that will see rural users continue to pay high rates and it will also give rebates to large unionized companies that can supply votes to LIE-beral while starving out smaller companies that are not unionized and thus not friends of LIE-berals! Its all about union solidarity and buying Hog votes and large companies have the union staff to supply that support- and to hell with LIE-beral unfriendly smaller companies!)

When the government says, “The free allocations are to protect Ontario jobs in industries that are competing with jurisdictions without a carbon pricing system, and to recognize industries that have made significant emission reductions already and need time to invest in new technology”, it isn’t wrong.

But are friends of the government getting free carbon allowances, similar to the way many wind power companies who donated to the Liberal party received heavily subsidized power contracts?

For now, the government says the list of companies who have received free allocations will remain confidential, to be released at a later date.

(The list will be confidential so we wont get upset at the shameless vote buying perhaps? And is this not why LIE-berals have slammed shut the Hydro file books now that they have sold much of the system to their FRIENDS? No need for the public to see the true extent of LIE-beral dirt?)

But secret handouts of valuable free emission allowances to certain industries- and not others- is a recipe for public concern about the potential for political corruption.

At a minimum, if politically favoured companies are showered with valuable emission allowances granted for free, it will make the government’s cap and trade mess even more difficult for any future government to unwind.

(And of course it is the giving of free carbon credits to big companies that is behind much of the European Carbon crap and trade scandal with its various scams and rip offs- it is the very eminently corruptible and easily manipulated system that LIE-berals have adopted for us! LIE-beral policy only cleans wallets, but NOT the air!)

- Adams is an independent energy and environmental adviser and researcher focused on energy consumer issues.

Interesting. Please tell us more.
 

Cliffy

Standing Member
Nov 19, 2008
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spilledthebeer: nobody reads your epic rants any more than they read Mhz epic bible tomes. All I can think is, "anger will eat you up inside" which leads to cancer. Take a Valium and chill, dude. All that hate and vitriol is gonna kill ya, man.

Oh, and, Smack, I see you are still wet dreaming about the Trumpster. If you don't wake up soon, your brain is gonna shut down from lack of oxygen.
 

spilledthebeer

Executive Branch Member
Jan 26, 2017
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spilledthebeer: nobody reads your epic rants any more than they read Mhz epic bible tomes. All I can think is, "anger will eat you up inside" which leads to cancer. Take a Valium and chill, dude. All that hate and vitriol is gonna kill ya, man.

Oh, and, Smack, I see you are still wet dreaming about the Trumpster. If you don't wake up soon, your brain is gonna shut down from lack of oxygen.

It appears that LIE-berals are becoming ever more frantic to direct public anger away from their Khadr Krap deal and onto something or somebody else- how else to explain the comments I recently got about Conrad Black? The LIE-beral said this:

“Omar is Canadian. He has every right to be here and get the ten mill but what about Conrad black. This thief is a convicted criminal and not Canadian but somehow was let back into Canada. The ****er also owes us 5.1 million in back taxes. The corrupt conservatives let him back to canada”.

I say the LIE-beral got it all pretty much WRONG! First- Omar is barely Cdn- his father- the CONVICTED BOMB MAKER got into Canada after LIE-beral Jean Chretien had a major brain cramp and INVITED the swine! Chretien should have been over ruled but LIE-berals are Not strong on logic so Omar was born here like some sort of almost illegal immigrant.

He has No right to $10 million dollars from Cdns- if he wants money then he should seek it from the Taliban and Al Qaida bands he served. He OUGHT to be grateful he was not hanged as a traitor- as was standard in the old days!

And what of Conrad Black? He was born here.

Was raised here.

Made a lot of money owning newspapers in Canada, United States and Britain.

He did so well that Brits offered him a knighhood. But Pierre Trudope-the father of Our idiot Boy Justin had made it against the law in 1970`s for Cdns to accept such British awards and recognition. Trudope hatred of all things British is so huge that Our Pet/Pierre told reporters that the British war against Nazi Germany was “British Imperialism”!

When the knighthood was offered to Black, LIE-berral prime minister Chretien was apparently worried about his popularity so he decided to make a legal exception to the normal LIE-beral hostility to the Brit royal award- thus- Black was allowed to renounce his Cdn citizenship, go to Britain to receive his award and then return to Canada as an immigrant in the wealthy entrepreneur class and was granted instant entry back to Canada as per the LIE-beral deal.

Subsequently United States securities and Exchange agents got interested in Black and his Yankee operations and made a case against him and had him extradited and tried him in Yankee court and convicted him of funny money handling habits in United States.

And here is where LIE-beral argument goes really OFF- Black NEVER faced any charges in Ontari-owe- LIE-berals are SOFT on crime generally and very soft on complicated white collar crime! Its why LIE-berals declined to prosecute the guy who stole 30 million dollars in an Ontari-owe Ponzi scheme!

LIE-berals decided they did not have the resources to prosecute such a complicated case- possibly they had already run up BIG bills buying pizza and beer and hotel rooms and supplying contract signing bonuses for the teacher unions they were PRETENDING to do hard contract negotiations with? So the Ponzi schemer was simply thrown out of the country- and really- if you had just stolen $30 million dollars- how big a punishment would it be to simply get told: “leave the country with your money and do not come back”?

So- Black was IGNORED by LIE-berals- he has done nothing wrong that anybody knows of in this country. And really- one has to ask how big a crime Black committed in United States as prosecutors RE-DEFINED their legal definition of FRAUD DURING the trial!

Yes- they arrested Black and then started defining what he had legally done wrong! Black is no saint- I am reminded of the old saying that “behind every great fortune there is a great crime”!

But Black was, is and always will be a “Cdn is a Cdn is a Cdn’ to quote Our idiot Boy Justin!

Black does not come from a line of bomb making Canada hating Muslim loons, nor has he fought against western troops by blowing them up with bombs. Black is no saint but neither are any other wealthy business people and sadly- he is no more greedy or selfish than any of our civil service union Hogs! Black is just another in a long line of slippery business people -the ones that LIE-berals are currently “entertaining” in their “pay for access” dinner/and political influence scandals!

And Black GOT NOTHING- not a penny from Cdn govt after being in Yankee jail. Black was architect of his own misfortune- just as Khadr was and Khadr ought to have gotten what Black got- a curse and a grudging re-admittance to the country of his birth! Any effort to link Black and Khadr is LIE-beral logic- and that is good resason to CONTINUE calling Trudope followers “LIE-berals”!

There are two reasons for LIE-berals to keep harping on the subject of Black- firstly- as mentioned, they are desperate to change the public discussion away form Khadr and onto anything else and they think Black is a handy change of subject. Second, Black owned a pack of newspapers-including National Post- that used a LOT of ink exposing the holes and flaws in FAILED LIE-beral policy and that is the Big reason LIE-berals HATE Black and want to smear him! Black no longer has his newspapers and cannot respond and LIE-berals DO seem to enjoy kicking a man when he is down!
 

Walter

Hall of Fame Member
Jan 28, 2007
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It appears that LIE-berals are becoming ever more frantic to direct public anger away from their Khadr Krap deal and onto something or somebody else- how else to explain the comments I recently got about Conrad Black? The LIE-beral said this:

“Omar is Canadian. He has every right to be here and get the ten mill but what about Conrad black. This thief is a convicted criminal and not Canadian but somehow was let back into Canada. The ****er also owes us 5.1 million in back taxes. The corrupt conservatives let him back to canada”.

I say the LIE-beral got it all pretty much WRONG! First- Omar is barely Cdn- his father- the CONVICTED BOMB MAKER got into Canada after LIE-beral Jean Chretien had a major brain cramp and INVITED the swine! Chretien should have been over ruled but LIE-berals are Not strong on logic so Omar was born here like some sort of almost illegal immigrant.

He has No right to $10 million dollars from Cdns- if he wants money then he should seek it from the Taliban and Al Qaida bands he served. He OUGHT to be grateful he was not hanged as a traitor- as was standard in the old days!

And what of Conrad Black? He was born here.

Was raised here.

Made a lot of money owning newspapers in Canada, United States and Britain.

He did so well that Brits offered him a knighhood. But Pierre Trudope-the father of Our idiot Boy Justin had made it against the law in 1970`s for Cdns to accept such British awards and recognition. Trudope hatred of all things British is so huge that Our Pet/Pierre told reporters that the British war against Nazi Germany was “British Imperialism”!

When the knighthood was offered to Black, LIE-berral prime minister Chretien was apparently worried about his popularity so he decided to make a legal exception to the normal LIE-beral hostility to the Brit royal award- thus- Black was allowed to renounce his Cdn citizenship, go to Britain to receive his award and then return to Canada as an immigrant in the wealthy entrepreneur class and was granted instant entry back to Canada as per the LIE-beral deal.

Subsequently United States securities and Exchange agents got interested in Black and his Yankee operations and made a case against him and had him extradited and tried him in Yankee court and convicted him of funny money handling habits in United States.

And here is where LIE-beral argument goes really OFF- Black NEVER faced any charges in Ontari-owe- LIE-berals are SOFT on crime generally and very soft on complicated white collar crime! Its why LIE-berals declined to prosecute the guy who stole 30 million dollars in an Ontari-owe Ponzi scheme!

LIE-berals decided they did not have the resources to prosecute such a complicated case- possibly they had already run up BIG bills buying pizza and beer and hotel rooms and supplying contract signing bonuses for the teacher unions they were PRETENDING to do hard contract negotiations with? So the Ponzi schemer was simply thrown out of the country- and really- if you had just stolen $30 million dollars- how big a punishment would it be to simply get told: “leave the country with your money and do not come back”?

So- Black was IGNORED by LIE-berals- he has done nothing wrong that anybody knows of in this country. And really- one has to ask how big a crime Black committed in United States as prosecutors RE-DEFINED their legal definition of FRAUD DURING the trial!

Yes- they arrested Black and then started defining what he had legally done wrong! Black is no saint- I am reminded of the old saying that “behind every great fortune there is a great crime”!

But Black was, is and always will be a “Cdn is a Cdn is a Cdn’ to quote Our idiot Boy Justin!

Black does not come from a line of bomb making Canada hating Muslim loons, nor has he fought against western troops by blowing them up with bombs. Black is no saint but neither are any other wealthy business people and sadly- he is no more greedy or selfish than any of our civil service union Hogs! Black is just another in a long line of slippery business people -the ones that LIE-berals are currently “entertaining” in their “pay for access” dinner/and political influence scandals!

And Black GOT NOTHING- not a penny from Cdn govt after being in Yankee jail. Black was architect of his own misfortune- just as Khadr was and Khadr ought to have gotten what Black got- a curse and a grudging re-admittance to the country of his birth! Any effort to link Black and Khadr is LIE-beral logic- and that is good resason to CONTINUE calling Trudope followers “LIE-berals”!

There are two reasons for LIE-berals to keep harping on the subject of Black- firstly- as mentioned, they are desperate to change the public discussion away form Khadr and onto anything else and they think Black is a handy change of subject. Second, Black owned a pack of newspapers-including National Post- that used a LOT of ink exposing the holes and flaws in FAILED LIE-beral policy and that is the Big reason LIE-berals HATE Black and want to smear him! Black no longer has his newspapers and cannot respond and LIE-berals DO seem to enjoy kicking a man when he is down!
No one reads long posts.
 

spilledthebeer

Executive Branch Member
Jan 26, 2017
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No one reads long posts.

Like I said- LIE-berals are FRANTIC to change the public channel AWAY from their multiple FAILED policies. If the best rebuttal of my post is "its too long" then you have NO rebuttal at all do you?

In the interest of promoting Cdn culture, I herewith supply my list (a partial one) of unique Cdn phrases and expressions:

“Lie-beral”-translation-a member of the Liberal Party of Canada. The name is obviously a pun brought on by the well known LIE-beral habit of playing fast and loose with the truth.

“Conservaturd”-translation-an insult applied to members of the Conservative party of Canada by LIE-berals now that they are reduced to hurling crude names at Conservatives due to the extreme lack of effective debating points available to LIE-berals.

“Your post is boring”-translation-context is important for discerning meaning here. The phrase has two meanings. When used by a LIE-beral the phrase means this: your post is an articulate, logical and well written critique of LIE-beral morals and values but as LIE-berals have no sensible riposte but do not wish to let the Conservative have the last word, LIE-berals resort to insult and name calling. When used by a Conservative the phrase is taken at face value-the post is boring.

“Your post is too long-people won`t read it”. This is a variant of the “your post is boring” phrase. Both phrases have essentially the same meaning-with “your post is too long” having extra nuance when used by LIE-berals- who will reach desperately for any means and any excuse to reduce the amount of public debate and discussion of their many totally failed policies.

“OCD”-translation-another phrase sometimes seen on forums-it also has two meanings depending on context. When used by a trained psychologist, it refers to some compulsive action that an individual is mentally too distressed to control. When used by a LIE-beral it is a pejorative remark intended to suggest that any person who verbally or in writing would oppose LIE-beral logic, morals or values must be insane-regardless of the validity of the argument being presented. LIE-berals have adapted this OCD interpretation from the Soviet secret police who would routinely lock up opponents of the Soviet regime in lunatic asylums and subject them to a damaging course of psycho-tropic drugs on the grounds that any person who objected to the Soviet regime must be insane-just as Cdn LIE-berals assume anybody who does not support them must be insane. Fortunately LIE-berals do not- at this time- have the ability to deal with their opponents in a fashion LIE-berals and Soviets think appropriate. It is ironic that LIE-berals DENY that their pursuit of Gravy should be classed as OCD and yet they CONDEMN those who seek to oppose LIE-beral greed as being grossly OCD.

“Working Family Coalition”-translation-an association of civil service union members whose desire is to put pressure on all levels of govt to ensure they can keep collecting their endless entitlements aboard the tax payer sponsored Gravy Train. Working Family members routinely obtain perks, pensions and benefits not even permitted by law to ordinary Cdns.

“Gravy Train”-translation-the comprehensive list of perks, pensions, benefits, glorious salaries, generous holidays, light working conditions, low stress and limited job responsibility enjoyed by all members of the Working Family Coalition.

“Hog”-translation-context is important here-in political circles a Hog is a person dedicated to and intensely loyal to Working Family Coalition and to the LIE-beral Party. Hogs are so loyal due to their utter inability to find any employment in the private sector that is even remotely comparable to having a seat on the gloriously comfortable Gravy Train. In less politically charged circles a Hog is simply a pig.

“Fairness matters.ca”-translation-a renaming and reworking of Working Family Coalition due to the embarrassing public exposure of the gross political bias of the Working Family Coalition. The Fairness Matters group is pushing the same old tired Hog propaganda but doing it under a new name. Ironically Fairness DOES NOT really MATTER to this Hog group-their only goal is to keep riding the Gravy Train even if it bankrupts the country.

“Entitlements”-translation-fairly self explanatory. The phrase was first employed in a political context by LIE-beral David Dingwall during his tenure as chairman of the Cdn Mint. He was called on the carpet after his extreme greed became an embarrassment even to Hogs. Dingwall was billing harried tax payers for all manner of things-up to and including bubble gum in spite of being paid a FINE six figure salary, wonderful benefits and lavish pension. Matters came to a head when it was discovered that he was ALSO billing govt hundreds of dollars per month for automobile expenses while WALKING TO WORK! In response to his many critics, Dingwall thundered in outrage: “I am entitled to my entitlements” and the phrase passed into the Cdn dialect as a signal of LIE-beral/Hog greed.

“Deficit”-a method of ensuring the Gravy Train remains fully stocked regardless of the fiscal state of the country. Money is simply borrowed as necessary and loaded aboard the gravy train as demanded to keep Hogs happy.

“Debt”-the cumulative cost of LIE-beral deficits that are required to keep the Gravy Train rolling. As previously mentioned, LIE-berals play fast and loose with truth and thus they try to put much of the blame for national debt onto Conservatives in spite of the long history of Conservative frugality. LIE-berals ruled Canada for 70 of the 100 years of the twentieth century and thus are clearly to blame for the lions share of our national debt. On those occasions when Conservatives gained power, they struggled mightily to undo LIE-beral damage-while being heavily hampered by powerful Hog unions demanding ever greater entitlements. Statistics Canada also tells us that Cdn debt rose at least 25 percent FASTER than normal whenever a LIE-beral minority govt-supported by NDP was in control!

Examples of and victims of this policy of relentless LIE-beral vote buying strategy and mis- representation would include Toronto mayor Rob Ford, Ontari-owe premier Mike Harris and former Cdn prime minister Stephen Harper and-in a wildly ironic note-former Ontari-owe premier Dalton McGinty is also on the list! All of these people recognized that Hog entitlements were out of control and tried to rein in the greed....only to be defeated in elections dominated by Hogs.

The largest voting block in Canada are those who do not ever participate in elections and the second largest voting block is made up of Hogs-thus Hogs are the tail that wags the Cdn political dog and thus Hogs have the power to remove people such as Harper Harris and Ford and -as we have seen, they will even turn on semi responsible LIE-berals such as McGinty if their gravy train is threatened. LIE-beral prime ministers ruled Canada for 70 of the 100 years of the Twentieth century-spending so freely and buying so many Hog votes that many in the general public have despaired of ever derailing the Gravy Train.

“Long Form Census”-a document that has caused much debate in Cdn political circles. LIE-berals consider it an essential information gathering tool that can be used to identify problem areas in Cdn society and view it as helping to target aid to afflicted groups. Conservatives see LIE-berals using it to snoop into the private lives of Cdns at considerable cost to tax payers. The information gathered from the Long Form is generally only useful to LIE-berals seeking voting blocks that are open to LIE-beral vote buying and pork barrel politics. Now that LIE-berals have returned to power in Ottawa, look for the costly Long Form Census to be restored and even enhanced! .

“Idle No More”-(aka INM)- translation-title and catch phrase of a coalition of Cdn Aboriginal groups dedicated to a grossly irresponsible agenda that would, if fully implemented, bankrupt Canada. INM is mainly concerned with ensuring that a steady supply of govt money (a native version of the Gravy Train) continues to flow to reserves in spite of massive corruption, endemic waste and criminal abuse of tax money.

Those Cdns who find fault with INM refer to native scandals such as the Atiwapiskat housing crisis and to the Kashetchuwan water treatment plant disaster. The Conservative govt built both a drinking water plant and a sewage treatment plant in Kashetchuwan and trained natives to operate the plants. A bank account was also set up so that natives could hire more skilled white men from the south to make repairs as required- that were beyond the skill set of natives. When both plants broke down it was then discovered that all the money earmarked for major repairs had ALREADY been spent sending a native hockey team with LOTS of adult supervisors to a tournament in California-air fare plus the cost of hotels, fine meals, alcohol and bad bets in area casinos ensured there would be no money for water plant repairs. INM blames racists in white govt for the lack of clean water in Kashetchuwan.

Conservative govt also gave Atiwapiskat band 105 million dollars to be used for building houses. In addition govt arranged to have De Beers-the diamond mining company that was operating in the area, donate` over 40 million dollars to Atiwapiskat. Yet in spite of having 150 million dollars donated to the band in a 5 year period, NOT a SINGLE NEW house was built and ALL the money has disappeared without a trace while Atiwapiskat town inhabitants live in hopeless squalid and frigid conditions. Cynics suggest that Atiwapiskat chief Teresa Spence has learned much from her counterparts in Kashetchuwan about how to hide money as there is not a single receipt in existence to show where the money went. And Spence and her band council blame bigoted white people for deplorable living conditions in Atiwapiskat.

Naturally conditions on native reserves are of concern to politicians. Conservative response has been to take a disciplined approach that would limit corruption and encourage a sensible and logical approach to native govt. LIE-berals have deliberately ignored any and all signs of gross corruption and fiscal negligence and are diligently trying to rebuild the trust of natives-by which they mean BUYING native votes without bothering to deal in any real way with the endemic corruption that is blighting life on the reserves. It would appear that LIE-berals have simply given up on natives and are inclined to let them stew in their own messes while extracting useful votes and staging photo `ops` where possible.
 

JamesBondo

House Member
Mar 3, 2012
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Like I said- LIE-berals are FRANTIC to change the public channel AWAY from their multiple FAILED policies. If the best rebuttal of my post is "its too long" then you have NO rebuttal at all do you?

In the interest of promoting Cdn culture, I herewith supply my list (a partial one) of unique Cdn phrases and expressions:

“Lie-beral”-translation-a member of the Liberal Party of Canada. The name is obviously a pun brought on by the well known LIE-beral habit of playing fast and loose with the truth.

“Conservaturd”-translation-an insult applied to members of the Conservative party of Canada by LIE-berals now that they are reduced to hurling crude names at Conservatives due to the extreme lack of effective debating points available to LIE-berals.

“Your post is boring”-translation-context is important for discerning meaning here. The phrase has two meanings. When used by a LIE-beral the phrase means this: your post is an articulate, logical and well written critique of LIE-beral morals and values but as LIE-berals have no sensible riposte but do not wish to let the Conservative have the last word, LIE-berals resort to insult and name calling. When used by a Conservative the phrase is taken at face value-the post is boring.

“Your post is too long-people won`t read it”. This is a variant of the “your post is boring” phrase. Both phrases have essentially the same meaning-with “your post is too long” having extra nuance when used by LIE-berals- who will reach desperately for any means and any excuse to reduce the amount of public debate and discussion of their many totally failed policies.

“OCD”-translation-another phrase sometimes seen on forums-it also has two meanings depending on context. When used by a trained psychologist, it refers to some compulsive action that an individual is mentally too distressed to control. When used by a LIE-beral it is a pejorative remark intended to suggest that any person who verbally or in writing would oppose LIE-beral logic, morals or values must be insane-regardless of the validity of the argument being presented. LIE-berals have adapted this OCD interpretation from the Soviet secret police who would routinely lock up opponents of the Soviet regime in lunatic asylums and subject them to a damaging course of psycho-tropic drugs on the grounds that any person who objected to the Soviet regime must be insane-just as Cdn LIE-berals assume anybody who does not support them must be insane. Fortunately LIE-berals do not- at this time- have the ability to deal with their opponents in a fashion LIE-berals and Soviets think appropriate. It is ironic that LIE-berals DENY that their pursuit of Gravy should be classed as OCD and yet they CONDEMN those who seek to oppose LIE-beral greed as being grossly OCD.

“Working Family Coalition”-translation-an association of civil service union members whose desire is to put pressure on all levels of govt to ensure they can keep collecting their endless entitlements aboard the tax payer sponsored Gravy Train. Working Family members routinely obtain perks, pensions and benefits not even permitted by law to ordinary Cdns.

“Gravy Train”-translation-the comprehensive list of perks, pensions, benefits, glorious salaries, generous holidays, light working conditions, low stress and limited job responsibility enjoyed by all members of the Working Family Coalition.

“Hog”-translation-context is important here-in political circles a Hog is a person dedicated to and intensely loyal to Working Family Coalition and to the LIE-beral Party. Hogs are so loyal due to their utter inability to find any employment in the private sector that is even remotely comparable to having a seat on the gloriously comfortable Gravy Train. In less politically charged circles a Hog is simply a pig.

“Fairness matters.ca”-translation-a renaming and reworking of Working Family Coalition due to the embarrassing public exposure of the gross political bias of the Working Family Coalition. The Fairness Matters group is pushing the same old tired Hog propaganda but doing it under a new name. Ironically Fairness DOES NOT really MATTER to this Hog group-their only goal is to keep riding the Gravy Train even if it bankrupts the country.

“Entitlements”-translation-fairly self explanatory. The phrase was first employed in a political context by LIE-beral David Dingwall during his tenure as chairman of the Cdn Mint. He was called on the carpet after his extreme greed became an embarrassment even to Hogs. Dingwall was billing harried tax payers for all manner of things-up to and including bubble gum in spite of being paid a FINE six figure salary, wonderful benefits and lavish pension. Matters came to a head when it was discovered that he was ALSO billing govt hundreds of dollars per month for automobile expenses while WALKING TO WORK! In response to his many critics, Dingwall thundered in outrage: “I am entitled to my entitlements” and the phrase passed into the Cdn dialect as a signal of LIE-beral/Hog greed.

“Deficit”-a method of ensuring the Gravy Train remains fully stocked regardless of the fiscal state of the country. Money is simply borrowed as necessary and loaded aboard the gravy train as demanded to keep Hogs happy.

“Debt”-the cumulative cost of LIE-beral deficits that are required to keep the Gravy Train rolling. As previously mentioned, LIE-berals play fast and loose with truth and thus they try to put much of the blame for national debt onto Conservatives in spite of the long history of Conservative frugality. LIE-berals ruled Canada for 70 of the 100 years of the twentieth century and thus are clearly to blame for the lions share of our national debt. On those occasions when Conservatives gained power, they struggled mightily to undo LIE-beral damage-while being heavily hampered by powerful Hog unions demanding ever greater entitlements. Statistics Canada also tells us that Cdn debt rose at least 25 percent FASTER than normal whenever a LIE-beral minority govt-supported by NDP was in control!

Examples of and victims of this policy of relentless LIE-beral vote buying strategy and mis- representation would include Toronto mayor Rob Ford, Ontari-owe premier Mike Harris and former Cdn prime minister Stephen Harper and-in a wildly ironic note-former Ontari-owe premier Dalton McGinty is also on the list! All of these people recognized that Hog entitlements were out of control and tried to rein in the greed....only to be defeated in elections dominated by Hogs.

The largest voting block in Canada are those who do not ever participate in elections and the second largest voting block is made up of Hogs-thus Hogs are the tail that wags the Cdn political dog and thus Hogs have the power to remove people such as Harper Harris and Ford and -as we have seen, they will even turn on semi responsible LIE-berals such as McGinty if their gravy train is threatened. LIE-beral prime ministers ruled Canada for 70 of the 100 years of the Twentieth century-spending so freely and buying so many Hog votes that many in the general public have despaired of ever derailing the Gravy Train.

“Long Form Census”-a document that has caused much debate in Cdn political circles. LIE-berals consider it an essential information gathering tool that can be used to identify problem areas in Cdn society and view it as helping to target aid to afflicted groups. Conservatives see LIE-berals using it to snoop into the private lives of Cdns at considerable cost to tax payers. The information gathered from the Long Form is generally only useful to LIE-berals seeking voting blocks that are open to LIE-beral vote buying and pork barrel politics. Now that LIE-berals have returned to power in Ottawa, look for the costly Long Form Census to be restored and even enhanced! .

“Idle No More”-(aka INM)- translation-title and catch phrase of a coalition of Cdn Aboriginal groups dedicated to a grossly irresponsible agenda that would, if fully implemented, bankrupt Canada. INM is mainly concerned with ensuring that a steady supply of govt money (a native version of the Gravy Train) continues to flow to reserves in spite of massive corruption, endemic waste and criminal abuse of tax money.

Those Cdns who find fault with INM refer to native scandals such as the Atiwapiskat housing crisis and to the Kashetchuwan water treatment plant disaster. The Conservative govt built both a drinking water plant and a sewage treatment plant in Kashetchuwan and trained natives to operate the plants. A bank account was also set up so that natives could hire more skilled white men from the south to make repairs as required- that were beyond the skill set of natives. When both plants broke down it was then discovered that all the money earmarked for major repairs had ALREADY been spent sending a native hockey team with LOTS of adult supervisors to a tournament in California-air fare plus the cost of hotels, fine meals, alcohol and bad bets in area casinos ensured there would be no money for water plant repairs. INM blames racists in white govt for the lack of clean water in Kashetchuwan.

Conservative govt also gave Atiwapiskat band 105 million dollars to be used for building houses. In addition govt arranged to have De Beers-the diamond mining company that was operating in the area, donate` over 40 million dollars to Atiwapiskat. Yet in spite of having 150 million dollars donated to the band in a 5 year period, NOT a SINGLE NEW house was built and ALL the money has disappeared without a trace while Atiwapiskat town inhabitants live in hopeless squalid and frigid conditions. Cynics suggest that Atiwapiskat chief Teresa Spence has learned much from her counterparts in Kashetchuwan about how to hide money as there is not a single receipt in existence to show where the money went. And Spence and her band council blame bigoted white people for deplorable living conditions in Atiwapiskat.

Naturally conditions on native reserves are of concern to politicians. Conservative response has been to take a disciplined approach that would limit corruption and encourage a sensible and logical approach to native govt. LIE-berals have deliberately ignored any and all signs of gross corruption and fiscal negligence and are diligently trying to rebuild the trust of natives-by which they mean BUYING native votes without bothering to deal in any real way with the endemic corruption that is blighting life on the reserves. It would appear that LIE-berals have simply given up on natives and are inclined to let them stew in their own messes while extracting useful votes and staging photo `ops` where possible.

interesting. please tell us more.
 

pgs

Hall of Fame Member
Nov 29, 2008
28,505
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B.C.
Like I said- LIE-berals are FRANTIC to change the public channel AWAY from their multiple FAILED policies. If the best rebuttal of my post is "its too long" then you have NO rebuttal at all do you?

In the interest of promoting Cdn culture, I herewith supply my list (a partial one) of unique Cdn phrases and expressions:

“Lie-beral”-translation-a member of the Liberal Party of Canada. The name is obviously a pun brought on by the well known LIE-beral habit of playing fast and loose with the truth.

“Conservaturd”-translation-an insult applied to members of the Conservative party of Canada by LIE-berals now that they are reduced to hurling crude names at Conservatives due to the extreme lack of effective debating points available to LIE-berals.

“Your post is boring”-translation-context is important for discerning meaning here. The phrase has two meanings. When used by a LIE-beral the phrase means this: your post is an articulate, logical and well written critique of LIE-beral morals and values but as LIE-berals have no sensible riposte but do not wish to let the Conservative have the last word, LIE-berals resort to insult and name calling. When used by a Conservative the phrase is taken at face value-the post is boring.

“Your post is too long-people won`t read it”. This is a variant of the “your post is boring” phrase. Both phrases have essentially the same meaning-with “your post is too long” having extra nuance when used by LIE-berals- who will reach desperately for any means and any excuse to reduce the amount of public debate and discussion of their many totally failed policies.

“OCD”-translation-another phrase sometimes seen on forums-it also has two meanings depending on context. When used by a trained psychologist, it refers to some compulsive action that an individual is mentally too distressed to control. When used by a LIE-beral it is a pejorative remark intended to suggest that any person who verbally or in writing would oppose LIE-beral logic, morals or values must be insane-regardless of the validity of the argument being presented. LIE-berals have adapted this OCD interpretation from the Soviet secret police who would routinely lock up opponents of the Soviet regime in lunatic asylums and subject them to a damaging course of psycho-tropic drugs on the grounds that any person who objected to the Soviet regime must be insane-just as Cdn LIE-berals assume anybody who does not support them must be insane. Fortunately LIE-berals do not- at this time- have the ability to deal with their opponents in a fashion LIE-berals and Soviets think appropriate. It is ironic that LIE-berals DENY that their pursuit of Gravy should be classed as OCD and yet they CONDEMN those who seek to oppose LIE-beral greed as being grossly OCD.

“Working Family Coalition”-translation-an association of civil service union members whose desire is to put pressure on all levels of govt to ensure they can keep collecting their endless entitlements aboard the tax payer sponsored Gravy Train. Working Family members routinely obtain perks, pensions and benefits not even permitted by law to ordinary Cdns.

“Gravy Train”-translation-the comprehensive list of perks, pensions, benefits, glorious salaries, generous holidays, light working conditions, low stress and limited job responsibility enjoyed by all members of the Working Family Coalition.

“Hog”-translation-context is important here-in political circles a Hog is a person dedicated to and intensely loyal to Working Family Coalition and to the LIE-beral Party. Hogs are so loyal due to their utter inability to find any employment in the private sector that is even remotely comparable to having a seat on the gloriously comfortable Gravy Train. In less politically charged circles a Hog is simply a pig.

“Fairness matters.ca”-translation-a renaming and reworking of Working Family Coalition due to the embarrassing public exposure of the gross political bias of the Working Family Coalition. The Fairness Matters group is pushing the same old tired Hog propaganda but doing it under a new name. Ironically Fairness DOES NOT really MATTER to this Hog group-their only goal is to keep riding the Gravy Train even if it bankrupts the country.

“Entitlements”-translation-fairly self explanatory. The phrase was first employed in a political context by LIE-beral David Dingwall during his tenure as chairman of the Cdn Mint. He was called on the carpet after his extreme greed became an embarrassment even to Hogs. Dingwall was billing harried tax payers for all manner of things-up to and including bubble gum in spite of being paid a FINE six figure salary, wonderful benefits and lavish pension. Matters came to a head when it was discovered that he was ALSO billing govt hundreds of dollars per month for automobile expenses while WALKING TO WORK! In response to his many critics, Dingwall thundered in outrage: “I am entitled to my entitlements” and the phrase passed into the Cdn dialect as a signal of LIE-beral/Hog greed.

“Deficit”-a method of ensuring the Gravy Train remains fully stocked regardless of the fiscal state of the country. Money is simply borrowed as necessary and loaded aboard the gravy train as demanded to keep Hogs happy.

“Debt”-the cumulative cost of LIE-beral deficits that are required to keep the Gravy Train rolling. As previously mentioned, LIE-berals play fast and loose with truth and thus they try to put much of the blame for national debt onto Conservatives in spite of the long history of Conservative frugality. LIE-berals ruled Canada for 70 of the 100 years of the twentieth century and thus are clearly to blame for the lions share of our national debt. On those occasions when Conservatives gained power, they struggled mightily to undo LIE-beral damage-while being heavily hampered by powerful Hog unions demanding ever greater entitlements. Statistics Canada also tells us that Cdn debt rose at least 25 percent FASTER than normal whenever a LIE-beral minority govt-supported by NDP was in control!

Examples of and victims of this policy of relentless LIE-beral vote buying strategy and mis- representation would include Toronto mayor Rob Ford, Ontari-owe premier Mike Harris and former Cdn prime minister Stephen Harper and-in a wildly ironic note-former Ontari-owe premier Dalton McGinty is also on the list! All of these people recognized that Hog entitlements were out of control and tried to rein in the greed....only to be defeated in elections dominated by Hogs.

The largest voting block in Canada are those who do not ever participate in elections and the second largest voting block is made up of Hogs-thus Hogs are the tail that wags the Cdn political dog and thus Hogs have the power to remove people such as Harper Harris and Ford and -as we have seen, they will even turn on semi responsible LIE-berals such as McGinty if their gravy train is threatened. LIE-beral prime ministers ruled Canada for 70 of the 100 years of the Twentieth century-spending so freely and buying so many Hog votes that many in the general public have despaired of ever derailing the Gravy Train.

“Long Form Census”-a document that has caused much debate in Cdn political circles. LIE-berals consider it an essential information gathering tool that can be used to identify problem areas in Cdn society and view it as helping to target aid to afflicted groups. Conservatives see LIE-berals using it to snoop into the private lives of Cdns at considerable cost to tax payers. The information gathered from the Long Form is generally only useful to LIE-berals seeking voting blocks that are open to LIE-beral vote buying and pork barrel politics. Now that LIE-berals have returned to power in Ottawa, look for the costly Long Form Census to be restored and even enhanced! .

“Idle No More”-(aka INM)- translation-title and catch phrase of a coalition of Cdn Aboriginal groups dedicated to a grossly irresponsible agenda that would, if fully implemented, bankrupt Canada. INM is mainly concerned with ensuring that a steady supply of govt money (a native version of the Gravy Train) continues to flow to reserves in spite of massive corruption, endemic waste and criminal abuse of tax money.

Those Cdns who find fault with INM refer to native scandals such as the Atiwapiskat housing crisis and to the Kashetchuwan water treatment plant disaster. The Conservative govt built both a drinking water plant and a sewage treatment plant in Kashetchuwan and trained natives to operate the plants. A bank account was also set up so that natives could hire more skilled white men from the south to make repairs as required- that were beyond the skill set of natives. When both plants broke down it was then discovered that all the money earmarked for major repairs had ALREADY been spent sending a native hockey team with LOTS of adult supervisors to a tournament in California-air fare plus the cost of hotels, fine meals, alcohol and bad bets in area casinos ensured there would be no money for water plant repairs. INM blames racists in white govt for the lack of clean water in Kashetchuwan.

Conservative govt also gave Atiwapiskat band 105 million dollars to be used for building houses. In addition govt arranged to have De Beers-the diamond mining company that was operating in the area, donate` over 40 million dollars to Atiwapiskat. Yet in spite of having 150 million dollars donated to the band in a 5 year period, NOT a SINGLE NEW house was built and ALL the money has disappeared without a trace while Atiwapiskat town inhabitants live in hopeless squalid and frigid conditions. Cynics suggest that Atiwapiskat chief Teresa Spence has learned much from her counterparts in Kashetchuwan about how to hide money as there is not a single receipt in existence to show where the money went. And Spence and her band council blame bigoted white people for deplorable living conditions in Atiwapiskat.

Naturally conditions on native reserves are of concern to politicians. Conservative response has been to take a disciplined approach that would limit corruption and encourage a sensible and logical approach to native govt. LIE-berals have deliberately ignored any and all signs of gross corruption and fiscal negligence and are diligently trying to rebuild the trust of natives-by which they mean BUYING native votes without bothering to deal in any real way with the endemic corruption that is blighting life on the reserves. It would appear that LIE-berals have simply given up on natives and are inclined to let them stew in their own messes while extracting useful votes and staging photo `ops` where possible.
You and white unifer should run the country .
 

spilledthebeer

Executive Branch Member
Jan 26, 2017
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Just scrolled past.....Life is too short to read such crap.

How about this issue on health? Consider:

Isn`t it nice that our LIE-beral overlords are spending OUR money on a series of costly commercials telling us what a great job they are doing with our medical system-but they cannot FIX crap like that described below-presented along with some comments of my own in brackets):

First his leg was amputated, then CCAC cut off his therapy.

By Kelly Egan. First posted: Thursday, December 08, 2016 05:21 PM EST | Updated: Thursday, December 08, 2016 05:28 PM EST

Paul Pelletier had part of his leg amputated earlier this year. He's been recuperating with the use of a vaccum pump that keeps the wound dry and clean. It comes from the CCAC, who had a 10-week limit on the use of the pump. They want it back, but his surgeon says he needs it to recuperate or may have to be re-hospitalized or have more of his leg cut off.

OTTAWA - It’s been a tough year for Paul Pelletier, scarred by scalpels, then the system.

The 51-year-old truck mechanic had his right foot — then part of his lower leg — amputated in two stages in March from the effects of diabetes. He returned to hospital in August, and in September had two further operations on the wound, just below his knee.

To help with healing, he was sent home with a special device, called a vacuum-assisted wound closure system. It consists of a special sponge inserted in the wound cavity, then connected to a drainage hose. The whole area is sealed, kept clean and drained by means of negative pressure created by a device worn around the neck.

“It’s a magic thing man,” the Carleton Place resident said Thursday.

To help with wound care, he was visited every second day by a nurse arranged through the Community Care Access Centre, the network of home care providers that serves all of Ontario.

Then came the shock.

Just as the healing was progressing nicely, the CCAC has demanded its “VAC unit” back because there is a 10-week limit. He could keep using it, sure, but it would cost $90 a day, or $2,700 a month, for a man on a monthly disability of $1,100. Otherwise, he was cut off.

“It scares me,” Pelletier said. “I believe it is a big part of the healing of it all. I’d hate to see a setback for another six months.”

Pelletier and his sister tried to reason with the CCAC, even enlisting the support of his Ottawa Hospital surgeon at the 11th hour.

“I feel that discontinuation of the VAC dressing will jeopardize all the hard work gone on to this point to salvage his below knee amputation,” the surgeon wrote in a Nov. 30 email.

“We would like to request an extension of his VAC therapy to avoid the need to readmit him to the hospital for continued appropriate wound care and to reduce the risk that he will be required to be converted to an above knee amputation.”

Some of the words were underlined and in bold type.

(Yeah-its $2700.00 to rent the machine for another month-and HOW MUCH to re-admit the guy to hospital and saw off more of his leg? With the added bonus that IF they save most of his leg he may be able to walk better and return to work-but if they saw most of it off he becomes a permanent ward of the state because he is crippled? Just WHO is running our medical system? Doctors with best patient outcomes in mind? Or LIE-beral friendly union Hogs who want their endless list of entitlements filled- at the expense of patients and the general public?)

The CCAC was unmoved. A care co-ordinator thanked the doctor for his email and reiterated that the unit would be removed Dec. 5. “I understand your concern related to this client and appreciate your follow up. At this time, CCAC is not able to extend the provision of (the unit) past 10 weeks,” the reply continued, “and we kindly ask that you provide updated conventional dressing orders.”

The surgeon replied within minutes, a seven-word answer that could not be mistaken in meaning or directness: “My orders are for continued VAC therapy.”

Still, CCAC didn’t bend.

At the urging of a hospital official, Pelletier appealed to area MPP Randy Hillier, not a step the mechanic is used to taking. “I’ve never called an MP in my life.”

Hillier, who detests over-regulation in government, immediately got on the phone and wrote to Health Minister Eric Hoskins.

(Regulation is one thing-govt MUST have control over operations and finance-but tight ass regulations that DAMAGE a patient that would otherwise recover more fully and faster and at less public cost is brain dead LIE-beral bullshit!)

“Minister, I find this alarming for a number of reasons. First, I find it unorthodox that the CCAC would have the authority to enforce a quota or limitation to services over the wishes of a physician; secondly, that a patient’s well-being and recovery would be hindered and possibly hampered by limitations on access to a comparatively inexpensive piece of medical equipment.”

(Any idiot-except a LIE-beral can see it’s a LOT CHEAPER to loan the guy the machine than to return him to hospital for more surgery!)

Pelletier said he was told there are 23 patients on a waiting list for a VAC unit, which he uses 24 hours a day.

(In other words-LIE-berals are AGAIN spending OUR money on THEIR gravy INSTEAD of on needed medical machinery-AND buying those commercials to BOAST and LIE-beral about it!)

Of the 23, he is sympathetic. But his great worry is that if the wound does not heal properly, he’ll need a further amputation above the knee, affecting his mobility for the rest of his life. His hope is that he can be fitted with a prosthetic in the spring and return to the trucking industry soon after. “I just want to get back to work.”

Pelletier estimates he needs the unit for another three or four weeks. The wound is largely healed but still has a small open section.

It’s been quite a saga. Diagnosed with diabetes at age 31, he lost a couple of toes about five years ago, then endured a long period of hobbling until his foot became too diseased. (Diabetes can lead to nerve damage and restricted circulation, especially in the extremities, and even minor injuries can turn into difficult-to-treat ulcers. Pelletier suspects a foot injury about six years ago triggered his problems.)

Pelletier is meeting with his surgeon Friday. They will deal with his wound, of course. Who fixes this broken system?
 

Bar Sinister

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Like I said- LIE-berals are FRANTIC to change the public channel AWAY from their multiple FAILED policies. If the best rebuttal of my post is "its too long" then you have NO rebuttal at all do you?

In the interest of promoting Cdn culture, I herewith supply my list (a partial one) of unique Cdn phrases and expressions:

“Lie-beral”-translation-a member of the Liberal Party of Canada. The name is obviously a pun brought on by the well known LIE-beral habit of playing fast and loose with the truth.

“Conservaturd”-translation-an insult applied to members of the Conservative party of Canada by LIE-berals now that they are reduced to hurling crude names at Conservatives due to the extreme lack of effective debating points available to LIE-berals.

What a stupid post. Every post you make has "LIE-beral" in it yet you are so close minded you think using the term "Conservaturd" is unfair. Your excessively long post (no doubt copied and pasted from someone a bit more intelligent than you) are so filled with innuendo, lies, and misinterpretations of reality it is no wonder most CC members can't be bothered to read them.
 

JamesBondo

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How about this issue on health? Consider:

Isn`t it nice that our LIE-beral overlords are spending OUR money on a series of costly commercials telling us what a great job they are doing with our medical system-but they cannot FIX crap like that described below-presented along with some comments of my own in brackets):

First his leg was amputated, then CCAC cut off his therapy.

By Kelly Egan. First posted: Thursday, December 08, 2016 05:21 PM EST | Updated: Thursday, December 08, 2016 05:28 PM EST

Paul Pelletier had part of his leg amputated earlier this year. He's been recuperating with the use of a vaccum pump that keeps the wound dry and clean. It comes from the CCAC, who had a 10-week limit on the use of the pump. They want it back, but his surgeon says he needs it to recuperate or may have to be re-hospitalized or have more of his leg cut off.

OTTAWA - It’s been a tough year for Paul Pelletier, scarred by scalpels, then the system.

The 51-year-old truck mechanic had his right foot — then part of his lower leg — amputated in two stages in March from the effects of diabetes. He returned to hospital in August, and in September had two further operations on the wound, just below his knee.

To help with healing, he was sent home with a special device, called a vacuum-assisted wound closure system. It consists of a special sponge inserted in the wound cavity, then connected to a drainage hose. The whole area is sealed, kept clean and drained by means of negative pressure created by a device worn around the neck.

“It’s a magic thing man,” the Carleton Place resident said Thursday.

To help with wound care, he was visited every second day by a nurse arranged through the Community Care Access Centre, the network of home care providers that serves all of Ontario.

Then came the shock.

Just as the healing was progressing nicely, the CCAC has demanded its “VAC unit” back because there is a 10-week limit. He could keep using it, sure, but it would cost $90 a day, or $2,700 a month, for a man on a monthly disability of $1,100. Otherwise, he was cut off.

“It scares me,” Pelletier said. “I believe it is a big part of the healing of it all. I’d hate to see a setback for another six months.”

Pelletier and his sister tried to reason with the CCAC, even enlisting the support of his Ottawa Hospital surgeon at the 11th hour.

“I feel that discontinuation of the VAC dressing will jeopardize all the hard work gone on to this point to salvage his below knee amputation,” the surgeon wrote in a Nov. 30 email.

“We would like to request an extension of his VAC therapy to avoid the need to readmit him to the hospital for continued appropriate wound care and to reduce the risk that he will be required to be converted to an above knee amputation.”

Some of the words were underlined and in bold type.

(Yeah-its $2700.00 to rent the machine for another month-and HOW MUCH to re-admit the guy to hospital and saw off more of his leg? With the added bonus that IF they save most of his leg he may be able to walk better and return to work-but if they saw most of it off he becomes a permanent ward of the state because he is crippled? Just WHO is running our medical system? Doctors with best patient outcomes in mind? Or LIE-beral friendly union Hogs who want their endless list of entitlements filled- at the expense of patients and the general public?)

The CCAC was unmoved. A care co-ordinator thanked the doctor for his email and reiterated that the unit would be removed Dec. 5. “I understand your concern related to this client and appreciate your follow up. At this time, CCAC is not able to extend the provision of (the unit) past 10 weeks,” the reply continued, “and we kindly ask that you provide updated conventional dressing orders.”

The surgeon replied within minutes, a seven-word answer that could not be mistaken in meaning or directness: “My orders are for continued VAC therapy.”

Still, CCAC didn’t bend.

At the urging of a hospital official, Pelletier appealed to area MPP Randy Hillier, not a step the mechanic is used to taking. “I’ve never called an MP in my life.”

Hillier, who detests over-regulation in government, immediately got on the phone and wrote to Health Minister Eric Hoskins.

(Regulation is one thing-govt MUST have control over operations and finance-but tight ass regulations that DAMAGE a patient that would otherwise recover more fully and faster and at less public cost is brain dead LIE-beral bullshit!)

“Minister, I find this alarming for a number of reasons. First, I find it unorthodox that the CCAC would have the authority to enforce a quota or limitation to services over the wishes of a physician; secondly, that a patient’s well-being and recovery would be hindered and possibly hampered by limitations on access to a comparatively inexpensive piece of medical equipment.”

(Any idiot-except a LIE-beral can see it’s a LOT CHEAPER to loan the guy the machine than to return him to hospital for more surgery!)

Pelletier said he was told there are 23 patients on a waiting list for a VAC unit, which he uses 24 hours a day.

(In other words-LIE-berals are AGAIN spending OUR money on THEIR gravy INSTEAD of on needed medical machinery-AND buying those commercials to BOAST and LIE-beral about it!)

Of the 23, he is sympathetic. But his great worry is that if the wound does not heal properly, he’ll need a further amputation above the knee, affecting his mobility for the rest of his life. His hope is that he can be fitted with a prosthetic in the spring and return to the trucking industry soon after. “I just want to get back to work.”

Pelletier estimates he needs the unit for another three or four weeks. The wound is largely healed but still has a small open section.

It’s been quite a saga. Diagnosed with diabetes at age 31, he lost a couple of toes about five years ago, then endured a long period of hobbling until his foot became too diseased. (Diabetes can lead to nerve damage and restricted circulation, especially in the extremities, and even minor injuries can turn into difficult-to-treat ulcers. Pelletier suspects a foot injury about six years ago triggered his problems.)

Pelletier is meeting with his surgeon Friday. They will deal with his wound, of course. Who fixes this broken system?

Very interesting. More please.